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Galcticusius
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Death Of Dictators

Postby Galcticusius » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:16 am

There will never be a death of dictators, they will survive and like are fucking awesome so like 3 may have died but that does not mean all have

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Postby Cosmopoles » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:18 am

West Failure wrote:It conjures up images of boy scouts singing in a rustic setting.


The name 'Berdimuhamedow' sound a bit racist to me.

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Postby Great Malema » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:31 am

More dictators have died in the same year in the past. 1945 saw the death of three dictators, Mussolini, Hitler and Goebbels (who technically counts as a dictator as we has Chancellor for a few days after Hitler died).

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Postby Hedmark » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:34 am

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
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Technically no. Unofficially probably yes.

We have to consider, he served over 2x over the term limit. During his second term though, he eliminated term limits.

In the 2006 Presidential Campaign, he admitted to voting fraud, against himself. I call BS, because who does that?

In the 2010 Presidential Campaign, two opposing candidates happen to be seriously beaten by police. He also authorized violent crackdowns against opposing candidate's supporters.

He is also accused of saying anti-semitic phrases.

Also despite being apparently hated, he always gets at least 80% majority vote for each election and is accused of massive voting fraud. And not surprisingly they have great relations with Russia, Ukraine and Georgia, which is also accused of voting fraud (Except Ukraine and Georgia, they passed that after the Orange and Rose Revolution respectively, but these events were recent.).

Sooooo...dictator.


If you want to be really technical, no. But if you want to go by common sense, yes.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:40 am

Great Malema wrote:Goebbels (who technically counts as a dictator as we has Chancellor for a few days after Hitler died).


Not really - because while Goebbels was made Chancellor, Donitz was given the superior position (in so far as 'superior' had any meaning in the Nazi state in April 1945) of Reich President.

Also, he held the title not for 'a few days', but for approximately 30 hours. Hitler committed suicide in the mid-afternoon of the 30th of April. Goebbels committed suicide no later than 8:30 pm on the 1st of April.

If Nazi Germany had a final dictator post-Hitler, it was Donitz, not Goebbels.

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Postby Great Malema » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:47 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Great Malema wrote:Goebbels (who technically counts as a dictator as we has Chancellor for a few days after Hitler died).


Not really - because while Goebbels was made Chancellor, Donitz was given the superior position (in so far as 'superior' had any meaning in the Nazi state in April 1945) of Reich President.

Also, he held the title not for 'a few days', but for approximately 30 hours. Hitler committed suicide in the mid-afternoon of the 30th of April. Goebbels committed suicide no later than 8:30 pm on the 1st of April.

If Nazi Germany had a final dictator post-Hitler, it was Donitz, not Goebbels.


You're right, Donitz was the President and if I can recall, he died in the 80's. So that makes it 2 dictators who died in 1945, same as 2011 then.

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Postby Sovietiya » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:53 am

Episarta wrote:
Yeeros wrote:
George W. Bush wasn't a dictator, he was a republican


What's the difference?

(sorry, it was too easy :p )


:rofl:

This has made my day. In fact, it has made my signature. (In a few minutes =D)
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:03 am

Costa Fiero wrote:
Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:Dictators still living:
Fidel Castro
George Walk Bush
China's Leader (Unaware of his name)


1. Not in power.
2. Not in power.
3. In power: Hu Jintao.

Besides, you forgot lunatics like Hugo Chavez and that guy in Equatorial Guinea that eats testicles.


China is really ruled by committee.
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Postby Hedmark » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:27 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Costa Fiero wrote:
1. Not in power.
2. Not in power.
3. In power: Hu Jintao.

Besides, you forgot lunatics like Hugo Chavez and that guy in Equatorial Guinea that eats testicles.


China is really ruled by committee.


Exactly, don't they have a Chairman too?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:53 am

The list will get longer if you add those that have been deposed: Ben Ali, Murbarak and more.
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Postby Ha Shi Ma » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:37 am

Hu Jintao is not a dictator. He is a strong leader, just like Putin.

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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:59 pm

Ha Shi Ma wrote:Hu Jintao is not a dictator. He is a strong leader, just like Putin.

Leader of a nation that doesn't believe in human rights?
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Postby Volnotova » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:02 pm

Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:
Ha Shi Ma wrote:Hu Jintao is not a dictator. He is a strong leader, just like Putin.

Leader of a nation that doesn't believe in human rights?


Encouraging illegal detention camps, starting illegal invasions and torturing and murdering innocents is not a violation of human rights I guess?

That is if you want to label the US as the bastion of human rights. ;)

But let's be honest here: Not all people in China do not believe in human rights, just as not all people in the US do not believe in human rights.
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Postby New Unsociety » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:08 pm

Indignados in Spain, Greece, Israel etc.
Greek anti-IMF/austerity protests.
Occupy movement.
Arab Spring
August riots in UK(i disagree with the tactics and target, but understand the causes)
Chile increased-tuition-led workers' and students' uprising.
Gaddafi overthrown and killed.
Putin's sham authority openly questioned.
Anti-tuition and austerity strikes in UK, culminating in 3 millions in 30 November general strike.
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Postby Costa Fiero » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:34 pm

Araucania and Patagonia wrote:Where are Nguema, Bokassa and Pol Pot when you need them ?


Nguema's nephew is in power now and he is as every bit eccentric as his father. He delcared himself to be a god amongst other things.

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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:39 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
Araucania and Patagonia wrote:Where are Nguema, Bokassa and Pol Pot when you need them ?


Nguema's nephew is in power now and he is as every bit eccentric as his father. He delcared himself to be a god amongst other things.

Meh.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:42 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
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Nguema's nephew is in power now and he is as every bit eccentric as his father. He delcared himself to be a god amongst other things.

Meh.

I think he's dead, too.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:52 pm

Volnotova wrote:
Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:Leader of a nation that doesn't believe in human rights?


Encouraging illegal detention camps, starting illegal invasions and torturing and murdering innocents is not a violation of human rights I guess?

That is if you want to label the US as the bastion of human rights. ;)

But let's be honest here: Not all people in China do not believe in human rights, just as not all people in the US do not believe in human rights.

Makes sense... but then again, I'm not really into communist states. ;)
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