why abortion is good.

[Crispicaea]

Potential is good enough. When potential deals with life, then potential is enough to justify action.
Raped: Adoption.
Die: Can't say for sure, so there's no guarantee.

So should we ban ejaculating?
Sperm are potentially children as well!
And adoption doesn't just magically work. Adoption centres are overpopulated, and in countries outside the USA, are usually horribly underfunded as well. This comes from experience. I've made hundreds of humanitarian trips to Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc.
And YOU can't say for sure, doctors can. Why should we risk or just throw away a woman's life? What gives YOU the right to do that?

Ejaculating: Yes.
Adoption: Then perhaps people could donate money? Does Bill Gates need another Mercedes?
Death: Not really. And she threw it away when she had sex. You give up your own life when you consent to have a child. Your life is no longer your own, it is devoted to the raising of the child you are pregnant with. Therefore, the woman gives up any right to turn back and any right to have her own wishes when she has sex. After sex, the woman's entire life is devoted to the raising of the child (as should the man's life).

[Divair]

So should we ban ejaculating?
Sperm are potentially children as well!
And adoption doesn't just magically work. Adoption centres are overpopulated, and in countries outside the USA, are usually horribly underfunded as well. This comes from experience. I've made hundreds of humanitarian trips to Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc.
And YOU can't say for sure, doctors can. Why should we risk or just throw away a woman's life? What gives YOU the right to do that?

Ejaculating: Yes.
Adoption: Then perhaps people could donate money? Does Bill Gates need another Mercedes?
Death: Not really. And she threw it away when she had sex. You give up your own life when you consent to have a child. Your life is no longer your own, it is devoted to the raising of the child you are pregnant with. Therefore, the woman gives up any right to turn back and any right to have her own wishes when she has sex. After sex, the woman's entire life is devoted to the raising of the child (as should the man's life).

I can't even..
The insanity..
I just..

[Salandriagado]

So should we ban ejaculating?
Sperm are potentially children as well!
And adoption doesn't just magically work. Adoption centres are overpopulated, and in countries outside the USA, are usually horribly underfunded as well. This comes from experience. I've made hundreds of humanitarian trips to Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc.
And YOU can't say for sure, doctors can. Why should we risk or just throw away a woman's life? What gives YOU the right to do that?

Ejaculating: Yes.

I think we need a talk about birds and bees here.

[Grave_n_idle]

Potential is good enough. When potential deals with life, then potential is enough to justify action.

Let's test that theory, shall we?

When do you think we should cremate people, before or after they become corpses?

[Grave_n_idle]

You give up your own life when you consent to have a child.

Consent to sex =/= consent to pregnancy.

Indeed, by your own logic, a woman who wants an abortion is NOT giving up her own life, because she is choosing NOT to consent to have a child.

[Crispicaea]

Potential is good enough. When potential deals with life, then potential is enough to justify action.

Let's test that theory, shall we?

When do you think we should cremate people, before or after they become corpses?

We shouldn't cremate people.

You give up your own life when you consent to have a child.

Consent to sex =/= consent to pregnancy.

Indeed, by your own logic, a woman who wants an abortion is NOT giving up her own life, because she is choosing NOT to consent to have a child.

Except that consent to sex==consent to pregnancy.
When she had sex, knowing that she could have a child as a result, she agreed to give her life to the child that may result.

[Norstal]

We shouldn't cremate people.

Gotta give it to him GnI, he's consistent.

[Grave_n_idle]

We shouldn't cremate people.

I assumed you'd understand that - for the sake of the question, we were going to actually answer when we should cremate IF we should cremate.

I guess I overestimated you.

Burying? Are you okay with that?

When should we bury people, before or after they die?

Except that consent to sex==consent to pregnancy.

Nope. No more than consenting to a bacon sandwich is consenting to chocking to death on it.

When she had sex, knowing that she could have a child as a result, she agreed to give her life to the child that may result.

No, she didn't.

[Grave_n_idle]

We shouldn't cremate people.

Gotta give it to him GnI, he's consistent.

I think that was an evasion tactic, to be honest. But I'll give him (or her) the benefit of the doubt. This time.

[Sailsia]

I feel that the topic of abortion constitutes a ridiculousy important role in US politics it really doesn't. The fact is that all you pro-lifers fail , AND I MEAN FAIL, to realise that abortions are disproportionately preformed on low income urban people actually, the Catholic Church uses that point AGAINST us.you fail to realise that these "innocent children" you are "saving" will lead lives of abuse poverty and neglect at the hands of uneducated and often criminal parents eating up tax dollars unless that DOESN'T happen of course. they will most likely emulate these negative traits and continue the cycle of urban decay It's easy to counter this by saying proper parenting could be a betterreplacement than terminating a potential life.so if your such a god fearing moral christian , why would you rather have a child suffer than not exist at all? *you're, and obviously yes, they would prefer a person have the chance to claw their way up rather than never being given a chancealso ask your self this , who would force someone to bear a child. obviously the government would


P.S. ; I AM A CONSERVATIVE , HARD TO BELIEVE RIGHT not really...

^Even though we're on the "same side" you went about your argument ALL WRONG.

[Disserbia]

Well and also for the fact that a person should have complete jurisdiction over their body or you can't really make the argument that they are "free", that it not allowing it would punish women for something that is just as likely to be the fault of men (specifically that it makes seem like its their fault for being raped), that there could be health reasons in which it's necessary, and that if a baby is going to be born with a life crippling condition and there is no way to provide for them or it will adversely effect their life to the point that it would not be enjoyable it might be worth it. But yes, I also agree with what you said.

[Ceannairceach]

So should we ban ejaculating?
Sperm are potentially children as well!
And adoption doesn't just magically work. Adoption centres are overpopulated, and in countries outside the USA, are usually horribly underfunded as well. This comes from experience. I've made hundreds of humanitarian trips to Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc.
And YOU can't say for sure, doctors can. Why should we risk or just throw away a woman's life? What gives YOU the right to do that?

Ejaculating: Yes.
Adoption: Then perhaps people could donate money? Does Bill Gates need another Mercedes?
Death: Not really. And she threw it away when she had sex. You give up your own life when you consent to have a child. Your life is no longer your own, it is devoted to the raising of the child you are pregnant with. Therefore, the woman gives up any right to turn back and any right to have her own wishes when she has sex. After sex, the woman's entire life is devoted to the raising of the child (as should the man's life).

You are wholly wrong. It is impossible to surrender your rights simply by performing a noncriminal action.

[Crispicaea]

We shouldn't cremate people.

I assumed you'd understand that - for the sake of the question, we were going to actually answer when we should cremate IF we should cremate.

I guess I overestimated you.

Burying? Are you okay with that?

When should we bury people, before or after they die?

After. We're not talking potential for death, because then I'd say legalise EVERYTHING. We're talking potential for LIFE.

Except that consent to sex==consent to pregnancy.

Nope. No more than consenting to a bacon sandwich is consenting to chocking to death on it.

It does. Life is full of risks, people need to stop blaming others. It's YOUR fault, get over it.

When she had sex, knowing that she could have a child as a result, she agreed to give her life to the child that may result.

No, she didn't.

Prove it.

[New England and The Maritimes]

No, she didn't.

Prove it.

You can ask her yourself, but I have a feeling you don't give two shits about what anybody decides if it isn't what you've decided. Were you not such a spineless nobody, you'd be a brutal tyrannical dictator.

[Cilistia Novaren]

It does. Life is full of risks, people need to stop blaming others. It's YOUR fault, get over it.

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

[New England and The Maritimes]

It does. Life is full of risks, people need to stop blaming others. It's YOUR fault, get over it.

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

Because he is. He hides it and acts uncomfortable because he knows better than to say things that are no longer popular. This viewpoint comes straight from a specific hatred of women.

[Crispicaea]

It does. Life is full of risks, people need to stop blaming others. It's YOUR fault, get over it.

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

It's not the woman's fault, it's the man's fault. The man should be executed for his actions.

Prove it.

You can ask her yourself, but I have a feeling you don't give two shits about what anybody decides if it isn't what you've decided. Were you not such a spineless nobody, you'd be a brutal tyrannical dictator.

Probably, but my empire would be moral.

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

Because he is. He hides it and acts uncomfortable because he knows better than to say things that are no longer popular. This viewpoint comes straight from a specific hatred of women.

No, I'll gladly say lots of unpopular things. If I believe it I'll scream it to the world, if I don't scream it to the world I don't believe it. The way I see things is, if you're ashamed to tell people what you believe, then you don't actually believe it.

[Third Mexican Empire]

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

It's not the woman's fault, it's the man's fault. The man should be executed for his actions.

You can ask her yourself, but I have a feeling you don't give two shits about what anybody decides if it isn't what you've decided. Were you not such a spineless nobody, you'd be a brutal tyrannical dictator.

Probably, but my empire would be moral.

Because he is. He hides it and acts uncomfortable because he knows better than to say things that are no longer popular. This viewpoint comes straight from a specific hatred of women.

No, I'll gladly say lots of unpopular things. If I believe it I'll scream it to the world, if I don't scream it to the world I don't believe it. The way I see things is, if you're ashamed to tell people what you believe, then you don't actually believe it.

I might not agree with you, but in a few posts you have earned my respect

[Norstal]

I might not agree with you, but in a few posts you have earned my respect

Seriously? He wants to ban ejaculation.

So should we ban ejaculating?
Sperm are potentially children as well!
And adoption doesn't just magically work. Adoption centres are overpopulated, and in countries outside the USA, are usually horribly underfunded as well. This comes from experience. I've made hundreds of humanitarian trips to Ukraine, Romania, Poland, etc.
And YOU can't say for sure, doctors can. Why should we risk or just throw away a woman's life? What gives YOU the right to do that?

Ejaculating: Yes.
Adoption: Then perhaps people could donate money? Does Bill Gates need another Mercedes?
Death: Not really. And she threw it away when she had sex. You give up your own life when you consent to have a child. Your life is no longer your own, it is devoted to the raising of the child you are pregnant with. Therefore, the woman gives up any right to turn back and any right to have her own wishes when she has sex. After sex, the woman's entire life is devoted to the raising of the child (as should the man's life).

I don't respect anyone who wants to ban ejaculation.

[Third Mexican Empire]

I might not agree with you, but in a few posts you have earned my respect

Seriously? He wants to ban ejaculation.

Ejaculating: Yes.
Adoption: Then perhaps people could donate money? Does Bill Gates need another Mercedes?
Death: Not really. And she threw it away when she had sex. You give up your own life when you consent to have a child. Your life is no longer your own, it is devoted to the raising of the child you are pregnant with. Therefore, the woman gives up any right to turn back and any right to have her own wishes when she has sex. After sex, the woman's entire life is devoted to the raising of the child (as should the man's life).

I don't respect anyone who wants to ban ejaculation.

I respect anyone who has the bravery to say it

[Crispicaea]

Just as I respect anyone who is willing to promote their ideals no matter how unpopular, and who is willing to do so respectfully and civilly.

I respect you because you have the decency to respect a man with the honour to stand for his beliefs. The fact that you disagree but still do so makes me respect you more.

[Bluth Corporation]

So its your own fault if you, say, choke on a bacon sandwich? Why do I get the feeling you are the type of person who thinks that if a woman is raped, it is her own fault?

It's not the woman's fault, it's the man's fault. The man should be executed for his actions.

Yet you call yourself a Christian?

Execution is an un-Christian act of hatred. Those who transgress need brotherly love, to help them see the error of their ways.

You can ask her yourself, but I have a feeling you don't give two shits about what anybody decides if it isn't what you've decided. Were you not such a spineless nobody, you'd be a brutal tyrannical dictator.

Probably, but my empire would be moral.

No, it would be grossly immoral because it would put the falsehood of the myth of an unborn fetus being a "person" with "rights" ahead of the actuality of the truth of a woman's right to expel a parasite from her own body.

[Cilistia Novaren]

Just as I respect anyone who is willing to promote their ideals no matter how unpopular, and who is willing to do so respectfully and civilly.

I respect you because you have the decency to respect a man with the honour to stand for his beliefs. The fact that you disagree but still do so makes me respect you more.

Actually, yes, on the previous points....you want to 'ban ejaculation' ? If you are being serious, how exactly do you intend on doing this? Ignoring the fact that it is literally impossible to prevent.

[Crispicaea]

By ejaculation, btw, I actually meant that caused by masturbation...

[Cilistia Novaren]

By ejaculation, btw, I actually meant that caused by masturbation...

Masturbation should be illegal? How exactly are you going to attempt that? It is also besides your reasoning, in that masturbation does not result in a child and as such you do not consign yourself to the possibility of a child. Or did you just want to make it illegal due to your personal moral beliefs?

Lastly, that ... implies you are embarrassed about this sort of thing. I too prefer polite conversation and do not speak of these sorts of things, but in a purely scientific (or political) sense such as this, there is no problem in speaking of such regards.