why abortion is good.

[Zeth Rekia]

They "young" and the "mentally challenged" are still more intelligent than the other species on this planet.

HIGHLY DISAGREED. Dolphins and Whales rival human intelligence

Dolphins can write poems?

[Vazdania]

yet everything on a fetus is developed. the beating heart, the electriclly powered brain, the breathing lungs, the little closed eyes...everything! it has a brain and conciousness it has the heart which pumps blood

They are not fully developed.

so when a baby is born its just poof auto developed?

[Mavorpen]

So if someone was going to shoot your family, and your only option was to kill them, you wouldn't?

Of course I would. That still doesn't make it right. Protecting them would only give a legal reason for me to do so.

So you're making an excuse for the killing of another human being. Hypocrite alert.

[Inexplicability]

So basically we are allowed to kill the young and the mentally challenged because they are less intelligent? Is that what you mean? I don't believe intelligence gives us the right to kill other species- it must be something else.

They "young" and the "mentally challenged" are still more intelligent than the other species on this planet.

Not always. Pigs can be as smart as a three year old child. There are many species that are smarter than some of us. And intelligence is also subjective, as someone else said. It really cannot be accurately measured.

[Vazdania]

HIGHLY DISAGREED. Dolphins and Whales rival human intelligence

Dolphins can write poems?

yes! dolphin calls

[Birkinghamia]

"Killing" and "murder" are different. Killing isn't necessarily the act of "murder", it's the act of ending a life.

Exactly. Therefore you cannot use the word killing. And since murder is subjective, you have no argument.

Um, what? I'm pretty sure abortion classifies as killing seeing as how it's ending a life.

[Mavorpen]

So basically we are allowed to kill the young and the mentally challenged because they are less intelligent? Is that what you mean? I don't believe intelligence gives us the right to kill other species- it must be something else.

They "young" and the "mentally challenged" are still more intelligent than the other species on this planet.

I hope this is a joke.

[Vazdania]

Of course I would. That still doesn't make it right. Protecting them would only give a legal reason for me to do so.

So you're making an excuse for the killing of another human being. Hypocrite alert.

he just stated its not right...

[The Flood]

Are you one of them weirdies who thinks animals and plants are equal to humans? They aren't, they are not sentient beings, it is natural for us to eat animals. You can't claim to endorse logic and say that a filthy and delicious swine is equal to a human.

I bet you aren't even a vegetarian.

Fetuses aren't sentient.

They have the potential to be, a filthy delicious swine doesn't

[Inexplicability]

HIGHLY DISAGREED. Dolphins and Whales rival human intelligence

Dolphins can write poems?

Poems are the highest forms of human intelligence? -.-

[Birkinghamia]

Of course I would. That still doesn't make it right. Protecting them would only give a legal reason for me to do so.

So you're making an excuse for the killing of another human being. Hypocrite alert.

I'm pretty sure that protecting you and your family is on a different level than killing an innocent child.

[Mavorpen]

Exactly. Therefore you cannot use the word killing. And since murder is subjective, you have no argument.

Um, what? I'm pretty sure abortion classifies as killing seeing as how it's ending a life.

As I've said SEVERAL times before, if you use the word killing, you refer to the ending of any life, therefore you admit that killing anything is bad, therefore you are a hypocrite.

[Vazdania]

Fetuses aren't sentient.

They have the potential to be, a filthy delicious swine doesn't

i would go out on a limb to say all animals are sentient

[Zeth Rekia]

Fetuses aren't sentient.

They have the potential to be, a filthy delicious swine doesn't

Yet, fetuses are still not sentient. Therefore, it doesn't matter.

[Birkinghamia]

They "young" and the "mentally challenged" are still more intelligent than the other species on this planet.

I hope this is a joke.

We have the most developed brains, and therefore, are the most intelligent species on this planet.

[Mavorpen]

So you're making an excuse for the killing of another human being. Hypocrite alert.

I'm pretty sure that protecting you and your family is on a different level than killing an innocent child.

I seem to recall you saying that killing any human being is wrong, period. Stop making excuses for your hypocrisy.

[Birkinghamia]

They "young" and the "mentally challenged" are still more intelligent than the other species on this planet.

Not always. Pigs can be as smart as a three year old child. There are many species that are smarter than some of us. And intelligence is also subjective, as someone else said. It really cannot be accurately measured.

We have the most developed brains, and therefore, are the most intelligent species on this planet.

[Vazdania]

They have the potential to be, a filthy delicious swine doesn't

Yet, fetuses are still not sentient. Therefore, it doesn't matter.

they are?

[Mavorpen]

Fetuses aren't sentient.

They have the potential to be, a filthy delicious swine doesn't

And? They still aren't sentient, therefore using your logic you can kill them.

[Zeth Rekia]

Yet, fetuses are still not sentient. Therefore, it doesn't matter.

they are?

Hm?

[Mavorpen]

Not always. Pigs can be as smart as a three year old child. There are many species that are smarter than some of us. And intelligence is also subjective, as someone else said. It really cannot be accurately measured.

We have the most developed brains, and therefore, are the most intelligent species on this planet.

Uh, what? This sentence literally makes no sense.

[Vazdania]

Not always. Pigs can be as smart as a three year old child. There are many species that are smarter than some of us. And intelligence is also subjective, as someone else said. It really cannot be accurately measured.

We have the most developed brains, and therefore, are the most intelligent species on this planet.

Disagreed once again, whther or not ones brain is developed does not acuratlly represent intellegence. a 13 year old may know more than a 30 year old

[Birkinghamia]

I'm pretty sure that protecting you and your family is on a different level than killing an innocent child.

I seem to recall you saying that killing any human being is wrong, period. Stop making excuses for your hypocrisy.

Screaming "hypocrisy" isn't getting you anywhere. I already told you. Killing someone is wrong, but protection is a legal reason to do so. I never said killing someone for protection was right, but you're acting like I did.

[Birkinghamia]

We have the most developed brains, and therefore, are the most intelligent species on this planet.

Uh, what? This sentence literally makes no sense.

Explain to me how it doesn't.

[Vazdania]

they are?

Hm?

right before the entire fetus is out of the mothers body it is sentient, therefore it is stilla fetus and sentient