India and Russia fail to extend nuclear project.

[Mike the Progressive]

And that mistress would be a 300lb scary Asian woman with a mean temper and large paddle...

no the americans are chin'a bitch. if we do not make nice they will foreclose on the washington monument

Right, because their economy wouldn't tank if ours did.

China needs us as much as we need them. That may change, but at the moment, China needs our money, and we, their cheap goods.

[Ethel mermania]

no the americans are chin'a bitch. if we do not make nice they will foreclose on the washington monument

Right, because their economy wouldn't tank if ours did.

China needs us as much as we need them. That may change, but at the moment, China needs our money, and we, their cheap goods.

They are much better money managers than you are giving the credit for, they would not kill our economy. Just slow down the buying of our bonds, raising interest rates slightly, The fed will get the hint, even if congress does not.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied

That my friends, is an entire possibility.

[Caninope]

That my friends, is an entire possibility.

It's really not. They don't have a common enemy but each other.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

That my friends, is an entire possibility.

It's really not. They don't have a common enemy but each other.

We have the long and happy relationship of utterly despising each other.

[Caninope]

It's really not. They don't have a common enemy but each other.

We have the long and happy relationship of utterly despising each other.

Let's be fair here: you're all newcomers to this. The Chinese and the Soviets only really got around to it in the 60's, and you guys only started to hate some other than the British after your independence. Before that, India was just a bunch of states (and a weak Mughal Empire).

[Nightkill the Emperor]

We have the long and happy relationship of utterly despising each other.

Let's be fair here: you're all newcomers to this. The Chinese and the Soviets only really got around to it in the 60's, and you guys only started to hate some other than the British after your independence. Before that, India was just a bunch of states (and a weak Mughal Empire).

Weak Mughal Empire?

Hell naw.

[Caninope]

Let's be fair here: you're all newcomers to this. The Chinese and the Soviets only really got around to it in the 60's, and you guys only started to hate some other than the British after your independence. Before that, India was just a bunch of states (and a weak Mughal Empire).

Weak Mughal Empire?

Hell naw.

Yes. Even so, the Mughal Empire, IIRC, was rather decentralized.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Weak Mughal Empire?

Hell naw.

Yes. Even so, the Mughal Empire, IIRC, was rather decentralized.

It did decline, yes.

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

Yes. Even so, the Mughal Empire, IIRC, was rather decentralized.

It did decline, yes.

Most assuredly lack of coordination, otherwise, the Mughals could have succeeded. They were more than the British...

[Caninope]

It did decline, yes.

Most assuredly lack of coordination, otherwise, the Mughals could have succeeded. They were more than the British...

Decentralization (and the disorganization that occurs afterwards) is almost always a major factor in the loss of an empire.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.

You've been watching kasautti, haven't you?

[Keronians]

Weak Mughal Empire?

Hell naw.

Yes. Even so, the Mughal Empire, IIRC, was rather decentralized.

Yeah, it went into decline after Aurangzeb died.

Possibly because Aurangzeb ruled...

Anyway, India used to be badass. I miss badass India.

Why can't we control a third of the world economy like we did some 2500 years ago?

Or at least a quarter like during the peak of the Mughal Empire.

[Keronians]

Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.

You'vre been watching kasautti, haven't you?

*shivers*

[Ostroeuropa]

Yes. Even so, the Mughal Empire, IIRC, was rather decentralized.

Yeah, it went into decline after Aurangzeb died.

Possibly because Aurangzeb ruled...

Anyway, India used to be badass. I miss badass India.

Why can't we control a third of the world economy like we did some 2500 years ago?

Or at least a quarter like during the peak of the Mughal Empire.

Because the british turned up and made you and other countries actually produce things, such as australia/america/canada and such.
There is a bigger pie, you get more pie, and you complain you don't get a quarter of a smaller pie. This is petty nationalism and self-defeating.
You want to be a nationalist, be happy you get more pie and stop worrying about the size of the slice.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Most assuredly lack of coordination, otherwise, the Mughals could have succeeded. They were more than the British...

Decentralization (and the disorganization that occurs afterwards) is almost always a major factor in the loss of an empire.

Actually, I think it was the initial centralization of the Empire that made it weak; the Mughals used their gunpowder advantage to gain a power monopoly over the sub continent, and following that there was really no pressure on them to improve upon their weaponry or tactics.

Whereas the Europeans underwent a series of military revolutions of sorts following the sixteenth century, because the continent had so many different centres of power; starting with the improvements made in Italian fortifications as a result of the Valois invasions (see: Trace Italianne) , spreading to the North - which resulted in an increase in the overall size of European armies, as more men were needed to both man these forts, and overcome them.

More importantly, they also had to improve upon their gunpowder and artillery to keep gaining an edge over their competitors; with flintlock guns replacing matchlock guns, the designing of ships capable of firing longe range broadsides (the main reason the Turks lost at Lepanto in 1571, and why the Portuguese came to briefly dominate the Indian Ocean) - and a concomitant change in tacticts and unit composition to utilize these reforms effectively.

Whereas Eastern Gunpowder Empires like the Ottomans, Mughals and the Ming weren't subject to that kind of 'Darwinian process', and their Military Technology remained rather stagnant in comparison.

[Soviet Russia Republic]

Relations with India are deep enough that this wont affect it at all.

[Keronians]

Yeah, it went into decline after Aurangzeb died.

Possibly because Aurangzeb ruled...

Anyway, India used to be badass. I miss badass India.

Why can't we control a third of the world economy like we did some 2500 years ago?

Or at least a quarter like during the peak of the Mughal Empire.

Because the british turned up and made you and other countries actually produce things, such as australia/america/canada and such.
There is a bigger pie, you get more pie, and you complain you don't get a quarter of a smaller pie. This is petty nationalism and self-defeating.
You want to be a nationalist, be happy you get more pie and stop worrying about the size of the slice.

This makes absolutely no sense.

[Keronians]

Relations with India are deep enough that this wont affect it at all.

Agreed.

I mean, they arranged for more defence ties, purchase of more fighter jets, and Russia promised to back India's bid for a permanent seat on the UNSC.

[Conserative Morality]

It means India should snuggle up to us, if they know what's good for them.

[Keronians]

It means India should snuggle up to us, if they know what's good for them.

Well, America clearly didn't when it chose which side it wanted to go with within the Indian subcontinent.

[Conserative Morality]

Well, America clearly didn't when it chose which side it wanted to go with within the Indian subcontinent.

We've changed our minds.

[Call to power]

We did get 42 fighter jets, so that's nice.

So you don't need all that aid Britain gives to your impoverished people?

Right, because their economy wouldn't tank if ours did.

Well Chinas largest export market is the EU and we are very much in the mood for having our anus worn out by the rich kid, dammit he's ours Uncle Sam!

[Caninope]

Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.

You've been watching kasautti, haven't you?

Nope. Believe it or not, Bollywood isn't the only place with poorly written drama.

And no, I have not been watching soap operas either.