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India and Russia fail to extend nuclear project.

Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:38 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-16212204

For safety concerns, Manmohan Singh and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev ultimately did not sign a deal extending a joint nuclear plant project.

I'm rather disappointed, as advances in nuclear technology and closer relations with close friend Russia could be beneficial for India. But I can somewhat understand their concerns.

We did get 42 fighter jets, so that's nice.

What does NSG think? Should Manmohan Singh and Medvedev have signed the bill, and what could this mean for Russia-India relations?
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Postby Bosiu » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:43 pm

Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:45 pm

Bosiu wrote:Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.

Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.
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Postby Bosiu » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:47 pm

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Bosiu wrote:Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.

Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.

Certainly the State Department could use this as an opportunity for buttering up especially since US-Pakistan relations are degrading fast. I'm all for letting India steamroller Pakistan.
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Postby Volnotova » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:47 pm

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Bosiu wrote:Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.

Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.


I always wondered why to so many Indians China tends to have such an infamous reputation.
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Postby Keronians » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Bosiu wrote:Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.


Eh, maybe American-Indian relations, but those two aren't going to be real allies, rather than just PC allies, until the US definitively ditches Pakistan.

And China is just a big no. India is a democracy, and the people kind of don't like China.

As for Russia and India, it is indeed a pity. We should maintain Russia. It's a valuable ally.

And I'm pretty sure that this isn't a souring of relationships, since both sides did actually want a treaty, but the circumstances made it impossible.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:48 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.


I always wondered why to so many Indians China tends to have such an infamous reputation.

We have reasons.
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Postby The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:23 pm

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I always wondered why to so many Indians China tends to have such an infamous reputation.

We have reasons.



Don’t worry, with those 1000 Russian T-90's you guys have -I wouldn’t worry about China rolling into your back-door any time soon :lol:
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Postby Keronians » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:24 pm

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Don’t worry, with those 1000 Russian T-90's you guys have -I wouldn’t worry about China rolling into your back-door any time soon :lol:


Eh, it will never happen again.

But India and China will remain regional, and then global, rivals forever, most likely.

And the warming Chinese and Pakistani relations probably aren't helping.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:26 pm

Bosiu wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.

Certainly the State Department could use this as an opportunity for buttering up especially since US-Pakistan relations are degrading fast. I'm all for letting India steamroller Pakistan.


Considering a military conflict between India and Pakistan could turn into a nuclear war that would leave millions dead and a large chunk of Asia dangerously radioactive, it would be better by far if they didn't fight it out.
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Postby Keronians » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:27 pm

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Bosiu wrote:Certainly the State Department could use this as an opportunity for buttering up especially since US-Pakistan relations are degrading fast. I'm all for letting India steamroller Pakistan.


Considering a military conflict between India and Pakistan could turn into a nuclear war that would leave millions dead and a large chunk of Asia dangerously radioactive, it would be better by far if they didn't fight it out.


Probably hundreds of millions considering that both India and Pakistan have crazy populations.
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Postby The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:32 pm

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Don’t worry, with those 1000 Russian T-90's you guys have -I wouldn’t worry about China rolling into your back-door any time soon :lol:


Eh, it will never happen again.

But India and China will remain regional, and then global, rivals forever, most likely.

And the warming Chinese and Pakistani relations probably aren't helping.



China will warm up to anyone they perceive as being the slightest bit anti-American...

But your theories are correct about the regional aspect of it, also, take into consideration that on an economic level –they are rivals.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:39 pm

Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.
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Caninope wrote:Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.


I doubt that India's broken up with Russia.

More like the typical fight which will be solved in the next episode.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:18 pm

Keronians wrote:
Caninope wrote:Yes! Finally a chance to dump that ugly girl Pakistan for the (somewhat) hotter India as our 3rd or 4th mistress, now that's she's single again.

Yes, I am making a soap opera out of international affairs. What of it? Oh, and the US is currently going steady with the UK, although they occasionally see other people.


I doubt that India's broken up with Russia.

More like the typical fight which will be solved in the next episode.

Unless the US breaks up with Pakistan and begins to make out with India. Of course, then the US has to worry about it's first mistress, China, getting jealous and clingy.
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Postby The Republique Dardania and Gazmania » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Caninope wrote: -then the US has to worry about it's first mistress, China, getting jealous and clingy.


And that mistress would be a 300lb scary Asian woman with a mean temper and large paddle... :shock:
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Caninope wrote: -then the US has to worry about it's first mistress, China, getting jealous and clingy.


And that mistress would be a 300lb scary Asian woman with a mean temper and large paddle... :shock:

Nah. China stays in shape, just in case we ever decided to leave the UK and run off from our best friend Canada.
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Bomb the Russians like a boss!
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Don’t worry, with those 1000 Russian T-90's you guys have -I wouldn’t worry about China rolling into your back-door any time soon :lol:


Eh, it will never happen again.

But India and China will remain regional, and then global, rivals forever, most likely.

And the warming Chinese and Pakistani relations probably aren't helping.


I was hearing that Both India as well as China, have been having military talks between their military officials as well as holding joint war games, to improve their relations.

I see that as a "Sino-Indian Détente". Opinions?
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Postby Hyrandom » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:27 pm

It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied
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Postby New Conglomerate » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:29 pm

Hyrandom wrote:It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied

About as likely to happen as for Kim Jong Il to declare North Korea an anarcho-capitalist utopia.

Over the next few years, as US-Pakistani relations further cool, it's possible that India, Russia, and the US will end up as allies.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:30 pm

Hyrandom wrote:It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied

Pssh, good luck with that. India and Pakistan hate each other. And I suspect as China grows, it's going to look around for some room.
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Hyrandom wrote:It would be nice if India, Pakistan, China, and Russia all allied

Pssh, good luck with that. India and Pakistan hate each other. And I suspect as China grows, it's going to look around for some room.


China does not yet need "lebensraum"...they must make as many friends first...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:45 pm

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Bosiu wrote:Considering that India is once again being the bitch that all world powers want to have now, I suppose this could advance American-Indian and Sino-Indian relations at the cost of Ruso-Indian relations.

Why do you feel it'll advance USA-India and Sino-Indian relations? Why do you feel it'll cost us Russo-Indian relations?

Also, this will not help Sino-Indian relations. We really fucking hate China.



I do not think it will hurt russian - indian relations, the indians are buying a whole passel of very expensive jet fighters.

i wonder what it is going to do to russian -- chinese relations.
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Caninope wrote: -then the US has to worry about it's first mistress, China, getting jealous and clingy.


And that mistress would be a 300lb scary Asian woman with a mean temper and large paddle... :shock:


no the americans are chin'a bitch. if we do not make nice they will foreclose on the washington monument
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