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by Armand2REP » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:29 am

by The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:33 am
Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Well... I mean if she's like sixteen... That makes a ton of sense. He's watching out for her.
What I don't understand is the sexism here. How come men are free to date who ever they want but women can't. By the way, that post was from age 14+.
Btw, in some countries IRL, 16 is a legal adult!

by Bluth Corporation » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:38 am

by Erinkita » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:39 am
Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.

by The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:46 am
Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.

by Bluth Corporation » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:50 am
The Black Plains wrote:Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.
Hodel: "Papa!"
Mama: "Oh, Hodel!"
Hodel: "Papaaaaa!"
Tevye: "Dead! She is dead to me!"
Hodel(sobbing): "Papa!"
Mama: "Oh, Tevye, she is your daughter!"
Tevye: "Tell her... that I love her."
*Wipes away tears* Oh my God... so... moving.

by The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:53 am
Bluth Corporation wrote:The Black Plains wrote:Hodel: "Papa!"
Mama: "Oh, Hodel!"
Hodel: "Papaaaaa!"
Tevye: "Dead! She is dead to me!"
Hodel(sobbing): "Papa!"
Mama: "Oh, Tevye, she is your daughter!"
Tevye: "Tell her... that I love her."
*Wipes away tears* Oh my God... so... moving.
You've confused Hodel with Chava.
Chava's the one who married the Paulinist Fyedka; Hodel married the radical Perchik and went off with him when he was sent to Siberian exile.

by Motuka » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:27 am

by Zersium » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:29 am
Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.
Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.
This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.

by Motuka » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:35 am
Zersium wrote:Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.
Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.
This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.
There are some women who can abuse/harm men. Just saying.

by Maloys Empire of GORE » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:37 am

by Alaje » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:58 am

by Genivaria » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:03 am
Zersium wrote:Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.
Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.
This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.
There are some women who can abuse/harm men. Just saying.
Not that I'm possibly like that. Oh no. -Demonic smile-.

by Alaje » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:18 am

by Turan Federasyonu » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:34 am

by Turan Federasyonu » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:36 am
Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.
Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.
This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.

by Karolyland » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:06 pm


by The Congregationists » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:09 pm

by Genivaria » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 pm
Karolyland wrote:Genivaria wrote:That doesn't make you any less of a lady.
Oh it's not that at all. It's a quirk with me, like, whenever it's just me and a bunch of guys, and one of them refers to the "lady" in the room, I'm initially legitimately confused in the split second before realizing I'm the lady.

by Zaras » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 pm
Alaje wrote:I think this tradition is good, it ensures that you are accepted by your spouse's family and that things will be peaceful. My dad asked my mom's dad for permission to marry her, and I plan on doing the same if I ever marry. Tradition has its purpose.
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Cosmopoles » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:11 pm

by Ethel mermania » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 pm

by Hallistar » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:13 pm
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Why do so many guys still think that it's up to a girl's father to decide if you are allowed to date her?
I've had a couple of different guys that were interested in me, but then got absurdly nervous about the possibility that my dad might not approve. None of them has ever been concerned that my mom might have a problem with them.
It's really not helpful to be so paranoid. If you're dating a girl and she's worried about what her dad thinks, then you have a reason to be concerned; but otherwise you're just making things more nerve-wracking than they need to be. If it seems like a guy is more concerned about my dad's opinion than mine, that causes problems in the relationship.
Ladies, do your dads chase away would-be boyfriends, or did they chase away would-be boyfriends when you were younger?
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