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Postby Armand2REP » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:29 am

I try to be respectful of her parents which generally leads to approval. Some dads can't let go and you will never get along with them until they do... even walking down the isle. Some dads lay down strict rules and curfew, you can get around the rules. Just bring her home on time.

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Postby The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:33 am

Kalaspia-Shimarata wrote:
The Black Plains wrote:Well... I mean if she's like sixteen... That makes a ton of sense. He's watching out for her.

What I don't understand is the sexism here. How come men are free to date who ever they want but women can't. By the way, that post was from age 14+.
Btw, in some countries IRL, 16 is a legal adult!

Well, mothers do have a lot to say about who their sons date. But also it isn't "sexism", it's just a difference of genders. I, as a father, would be less worried about my son dating a bad girl than I would be about my sweet girl dating a bad guy. What is the girl going to do to my son? Corrupt him somehow? But that guy could do awful things to my daughter. Just facing facts, guys are stronger than women. It's natural to be more protective of daughters because it's easier for a guy to take advantage of a girl than for a girl to take advantage of a guy. It just is. Facing goddamn facts is not sexism. The same is true for women serving in the army. It's not sexism to say "women should not have combat positions". Women are not as strong as men and when you need to drag a comrade to safety that is the difference between living and fucking dying. They should at least be held to the same physical standards.

And... legal adult? "If thou dost liveth under mine roof, thou shalt follow mine edicts."
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:38 am

Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.
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Postby Erinkita » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:39 am

Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.

That's just what I was thinking.
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Postby The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:46 am

Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.

Hodel: "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Hodel!"

Hodel: "Papaaaaa!"

Tevye: "Dead! She is dead to me!"

Hodel(sobbing): "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Tevye, she is your daughter!"

Tevye: "Tell her... that I love her."

*Wipes away tears* Oh my God... so... moving.

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Postby Bluth Corporation » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:50 am

The Black Plains wrote:
Bluth Corporation wrote:Ever see Fiddler on the Roof? Hodel and Perchik did it right.

Hodel: "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Hodel!"

Hodel: "Papaaaaa!"

Tevye: "Dead! She is dead to me!"

Hodel(sobbing): "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Tevye, she is your daughter!"

Tevye: "Tell her... that I love her."

*Wipes away tears* Oh my God... so... moving.


You've confused Hodel with Chava.

Chava's the one who married the Paulinist Fyedka; Hodel married the radical Perchik and went off with him when he was sent to Siberian exile.
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Postby The Black Plains » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:53 am

Bluth Corporation wrote:
The Black Plains wrote:Hodel: "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Hodel!"

Hodel: "Papaaaaa!"

Tevye: "Dead! She is dead to me!"

Hodel(sobbing): "Papa!"

Mama: "Oh, Tevye, she is your daughter!"

Tevye: "Tell her... that I love her."

*Wipes away tears* Oh my God... so... moving.


You've confused Hodel with Chava.

Chava's the one who married the Paulinist Fyedka; Hodel married the radical Perchik and went off with him when he was sent to Siberian exile.

My bad, been a while since I've seen it.

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Postby Motuka » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:27 am

It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.

Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.

This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.
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Postby Zersium » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:29 am

Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.

Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.

This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.


There are some women who can abuse/harm men. Just saying.

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Postby Motuka » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:35 am

Zersium wrote:
Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.

Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.

This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.


There are some women who can abuse/harm men. Just saying.

Yes, I'm well aware of that.

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Postby Maloys Empire of GORE » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:37 am

1. Father is typically viewed as the leader of the family, and, so, the boyfriend naturally seeks approval.

2. If the father does not like you, maybe she will dump you to please her father?

3.showing respect and that you want to have a positive relationship if your own with your girlfriend becomes more permament.



This is focused more around long-term dating and permament relationships. If its just a short term thing, then it really has no purpose.

That said, I get the feeling your not the type who is looking for anything long term, your boyfriends most likely are, and would prefer not to see your dad fiddling with gun whenever they are around?

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Postby Alaje » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:58 am

I think this tradition is good, it ensures that you are accepted by your spouse's family and that things will be peaceful. My dad asked my mom's dad for permission to marry her, and I plan on doing the same if I ever marry. Tradition has its purpose.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:03 am

Zersium wrote:
Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.

Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.

This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.


There are some women who can abuse/harm men. Just saying.

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Postby Alaje » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:18 am

^ Lol, Genivaria you're so naughty for using Tropes.... :lol2:
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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:34 am

I didnt ask my girlfriend`s father for permission its not an issue as Id anyway understand if he didnt approve.

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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:36 am

Motuka wrote:It's a double standard specifically based on treatment of daughters.

Sometimes it's the mother who sits at home cleaning the shotgun. Either way, however, parental protectiveness is based on the idea that sexually active daughters are a threat to the family's honour (or, less cynically, that young ladies are more emotionally fragile and will be more severely affected by poor treatment, and sex is much riskier for them). Neither fathers nor mothers will "have" to approve of their sons' girlfriends—in fact, whereas parents will discourage girls from dating, they will encourage boys to date with equal or greater strength. Someone needs to spread the family name and young men are incapable of being abused or harmed by female partners.

This stupid tradition can't possibly die soon enough.

I dont agree, I asked my mother for permission to have a girlfriend.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:37 am

Alaje wrote:^ Lol, Genivaria you're so naughty for using Tropes.... :lol2:

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Postby Karolyland » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:06 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Karolyland wrote:Lady? Where? :P

Sorry, I swing exclusively in the direction of my girlfriend :D

That doesn't make you any less of a lady.

Oh it's not that at all. It's a quirk with me, like, whenever it's just me and a bunch of guys, and one of them refers to the "lady" in the room, I'm initially legitimately confused in the split second before realizing I'm the lady. :lol:
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Postby The Congregationists » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:09 pm

My personal experience has been that women raised by "eight simple rules dads" (as I call them) actually turn out to be the weirdest and most intense once out from under that overprotective shell. They don't learn how to deal with and metabolize their own attraction and the attraction of others appropriately. So when they end up as adults, their concepts of boundaries and propriety are weaker. To say the least.

An uncle of mine started seeing a woman who was raised like this. Loaded shot-guns weren't a figure of speech here - she reported being locked in her room after dark and her brothers - outlaw bikers - would go out and stomped any guy she liked or who liked her too. I guess the only reason I didn't get stomped was because I had a few contacts in the local outlaw MCs, because she threw herself at me, on the night of my father's (my uncle's brother's) funeral, no less.

And that's not the only story of this nature I can tell. This business of "templar dads", as tvtropes calls them, can't die soon enough. Like these purity balls and abstinance pledges. Uber fucking creepy, if you ask me.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 pm

Karolyland wrote:
Genivaria wrote:That doesn't make you any less of a lady.

Oh it's not that at all. It's a quirk with me, like, whenever it's just me and a bunch of guys, and one of them refers to the "lady" in the room, I'm initially legitimately confused in the split second before realizing I'm the lady. :lol:

Ah I see.
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Postby Zersium » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Alaje wrote:^ Lol, Genivaria you're so naughty for using Tropes.... :lol2:

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Mhhm, I more prefer other women rather than men though.

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Postby Zaras » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 pm

Alaje wrote:I think this tradition is good, it ensures that you are accepted by your spouse's family and that things will be peaceful. My dad asked my mom's dad for permission to marry her, and I plan on doing the same if I ever marry. Tradition has its purpose.


The purpose of denying female members of the family agency and sending them the message that their opinions don't matter because they're still subordinate to the older males?
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Postby Cosmopoles » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:11 pm

I'd be creeped out if a girl asked her dad permission to go out with me.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:12 pm

Ask dad to date daughter? I did not do that with any girl I ever dated.

Marry yes, but I had already asked my wife first, and she said yes. I then asked her if she would like me to ask her dad before we told anyone, she said yes to that as well.
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Postby Hallistar » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:13 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Why do so many guys still think that it's up to a girl's father to decide if you are allowed to date her?

I've had a couple of different guys that were interested in me, but then got absurdly nervous about the possibility that my dad might not approve. None of them has ever been concerned that my mom might have a problem with them.

It's really not helpful to be so paranoid. If you're dating a girl and she's worried about what her dad thinks, then you have a reason to be concerned; but otherwise you're just making things more nerve-wracking than they need to be. If it seems like a guy is more concerned about my dad's opinion than mine, that causes problems in the relationship.

Ladies, do your dads chase away would-be boyfriends, or did they chase away would-be boyfriends when you were younger?


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