Christianity

[Tmutarakhan]

And now I finally understand where you come from, and while it makes sense... is pretty much Buddism renamed.

I'm not sure I follow.

You are hijacking the word "Christ", a Greek term used by Gentile followers of Jesus to refer to their conception of who and what Jesus was, to privately define it as your own idea of [whatever, you really haven't been clear], and Seperates is trying to decipher you, and thought Christ-as-defined-by-Bluth means "the Buddha mind" or something like that, which would have made some sense of what you are saying-- but you are stubbornly refusing to convey any information.

[Bluth Corporation]

I'm hijacking nothing--I'm simply correcting their mistake. They were right to seek the Christ, they were right that the Christ it the savior of mankind, they were right that Jesus was a guide to finding it; they simply were wildly wrong about the details (how the Christ saves mankind, what he is, the nature of Jesus's relationship to the Christ).

[Socialdemokraterne]

Bluth have a private usage of the word "Christianity" for what he considers to be the true original teachings of Jesus,

No, I don't. I'm a Christian, not a Jesusist.

It's about the Christ the ideal, not Jesus the person. Jesus was only an imperfect manifestation of the Christ; some of his teachings were simply un-Christian.

I...wha...huh?!!! Sure, "Christ" is a title, not the man's name, but that title was conferred to Jesus. That's the foundation of the Christian religion, that Jesus was the messiah! I've never even heard of a denomination of Christianity which preaches that Jesus was "un-Christian". Such a thing sounds self-contradicting.

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

Jesus is the idea and the mortal man.
If you are a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Christ, ergo practically perfect.

[Aeaea]

Jesus is the idea and the mortal man.
If you are a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Christ, ergo practically perfect.

Hence, "Jesus Christ."

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

Jesus is the idea and the mortal man.
If you are a Christian, you believe that Jesus was the Christ, ergo practically perfect.

Hence, "Jesus Christ."

Exactly.
Cheers.

[Des Moines]

The ideology is great Jesus was a good man but was not a son of god he was a normal person. He did not create the religion his followers did. Christianity has caused some bad things in the past like the inquisition, mass murder of native Americans by the Spanish, and hellish tactics of converting American Indians by the U.S. In my mind if it people would stick to the true meaning which is to live and be the same as Jesus there would be none of this.

[Estgloria]

1. I was raised in a Charismatic Church with my mother (who was raised Catholic) and father(who was raised Southern Baptists).

2. I was Christened as a Catholic when I was a baby, but as I said, I was raised charismatic. Now I attend a Southern Baptist Church, because it is the Church of my father's family, and I believe in most of their teachings. However, I also believe in many Catholic teachings as well.

[Halgrond]

I'm hijacking nothing--I'm simply correcting their mistake. They were right to seek the Christ, they were right that the Christ it the savior of mankind, they were right that Jesus was a guide to finding it; they simply were wildly wrong about the details (how the Christ saves mankind, what he is, the nature of Jesus's relationship to the Christ).

The word Christ comes from a Greek translation of the word messiah. So when you use the word Christ do you mean messiah?

[Distruzio]

The ideology is great Jesus was a good man but was not a son of god he was a normal person. He did not create the religion his followers did. Christianity has caused some bad things in the past like the inquisition, mass murder of native Americans by the Spanish, and hellish tactics of converting American Indians by the U.S. In my mind if it people would stick to the true meaning which is to live and be the same as Jesus there would be none of this.

Christianity did none of those things. There is no doctrine in the faith requiring an inquisition, genocide, or compulsory conversion. Those are all tactics used by Christians when they pervert the scripture to facilitate their own desires.

[Distruzio]

No, I don't. I'm a Christian, not a Jesusist.

It's about the Christ the ideal, not Jesus the person. Jesus was only an imperfect manifestation of the Christ; some of his teachings were simply un-Christian.

I...wha...huh?!!! Sure, "Christ" is a title, not the man's name, but that title was conferred to Jesus. That's the foundation of the Christian religion, that Jesus was the messiah! I've never even heard of a denomination of Christianity which preaches that Jesus was "un-Christian". Such a thing sounds self-contradicting.

Bluth does not adhere to a "denomination" of Christianity. He is deriving his approach to Christianity, his actual Christianity, from his own reading of the scripture.

[Genivaria]

I...wha...huh?!!! Sure, "Christ" is a title, not the man's name, but that title was conferred to Jesus. That's the foundation of the Christian religion, that Jesus was the messiah! I've never even heard of a denomination of Christianity which preaches that Jesus was "un-Christian". Such a thing sounds self-contradicting.

Bluth does not adhere to a "denomination" of Christianity. He is deriving his approach to Christianity, his actual Christianity, from his own reading of the scripture.

You'll get used to it. We all do.

[Distruzio]

Since we're all posting our opinions on Christianity, I think that it saved the world.

[Genivaria]

Since we're all posting our opinions on Christianity, I think that it saved the world.

From what?

[Distruzio]

Bluth does not adhere to a "denomination" of Christianity. He is deriving his approach to Christianity, his actual Christianity, from his own reading of the scripture.

You'll get used to it. We all do.

Yup. He and I have spoken on the subject a few times. I still haven't quite got the grasp of his ideology, but I know I like it.

[Distruzio]

Since we're all posting our opinions on Christianity, I think that it saved the world.

From what?

Everything.

[Genivaria]

From what?

Everything.

Uh no sorry, thats not gonna work. What social ill existed before Christianity that disappeared after Christianity became widespread?

[Milks Empire]

Everything.

Uh no sorry, thats not gonna work. What social ill existed before Christianity that disappeared after Christianity became widespread?

It did put a damper on slavery between late antiquity and the Age of Exploration from what I remember from my early Middle Ages class.

[Benedictus]

I am Christian and belong to the denomination of the Baptist church.

[Volnotova]

You'll get used to it. We all do.

Yup. He and I have spoken on the subject a few times. I still haven't quite got the grasp of his ideology, but I know I like it.

I like it for the fact it is anti-Paulist.

Although I am quite unsure about his other stances, for example the idea that in order to be a Christian you have to be an atheist.

That said, he might be referring to the absence of a personal God, for I(from a pantheist point of view) do not see how there can be a Christ(Whoever/whatever he/it was) without there being a God.

[Genivaria]

Uh no sorry, thats not gonna work. What social ill existed before Christianity that disappeared after Christianity became widespread?

It did put a damper on slavery between late antiquity and the Age of Exploration from what I remember from my early Middle Ages class.

Put a damper? How?
And are you sure that slavery becoming unpopular didn't have more to do with the Enlightenment?
Christianity had been around since the late Roman Empire and yet it was several centuries before governments started actively opposing slavery.
The only real problem that the RCC had with slavery was the ownership of Christians by non-Christians.

Slavery in early medieval Europe was so common that the Roman Catholic Church repeatedly prohibited it — or at least the export of Christian slaves to non-Christian lands was prohibited at e.g. the Council of Koblenz (922), the Council of London (1102), and the Council of Armagh (1171).[39]
In 1452, Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas, granting Afonso V of Portugal the right to reduce any "Saracens, pagans and any other unbelievers" to hereditary slavery which legitimized the slave trade, at least as a result of war.[40]
The approval of slavery under these conditions was reaffirmed and extended in his Romanus Pontifex bull of 1455.
However, Pope Paul III forbade enslavement of the native Americans in 1537 in his papal bull Sublimus Dei.[41]
Dominican friars who arrived at the Spanish settlement at Santo Domingo strongly denounced the enslavement of the local native Americans.
Along with other priests, they opposed their treatment as unjust and illegal in an audience with the Spanish king and in the subsequent royal commission.[42]

-Wikipedia
So individual Christians had differing views on slavery, you most certainly can't say that Christianity CAUSED the end of slavery because thats blatantly untrue.

[Distruzio]

Everything.

Uh no sorry, thats not gonna work. What social ill existed before Christianity that disappeared after Christianity became widespread?

No social ill disappeared. Christianity isn't monolithic. It certainly limited the effects of certain social ills where it prospered.

[Genivaria]

Uh no sorry, thats not gonna work. What social ill existed before Christianity that disappeared after Christianity became widespread?

No social ill disappeared. Christianity isn't monolithic. It certainly limited the effects of certain social ills where it prospered.

In some places yes, and worsened them in others. Many people would have used the bible as justification for slavery.
I don't doubt for a second that the Southern Rebels did.

[Distruzio]

No social ill disappeared. Christianity isn't monolithic. It certainly limited the effects of certain social ills where it prospered.

In some places yes, and worsened them in others.

Like where? In what capacity?

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

In some places yes, and worsened them in others.

Like where? In what capacity?

Religious persecution in the Americas.