Oppose the Unification of Europe?

[North Suran]

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

Read the thread again. He had already said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. When CtP (Or was it North Suran) asked for a source again, I merely made a joke. It's not my fault NSG is full of humourless pedantic shitheads.

Of course, when your joke falls flat, it's not because it was poorly executed or entirely unrelated to the argument: it's because NSG is full of "humourless pedantic shitheads".

Ever heard of the phrase "A bad workman blames his tools"?

[Dzvasdvsdv]

Of course, when your joke falls flat, it's not because it was poorly executed or entirely unrelated to the argument: it's because NSG is full of "humourless pedantic shitheads".

Ever heard of the phrase "A bad workman blames his tools"?

Jesus fucking Christ this is exactly what I mean. It wasn't supposed to be a work of comedic genius, it was just supposed to be recognised as lighthearted.

[RoI2]

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

Read the thread again. He had already said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. When CtP (Or was it North Suran) asked for a source again, I merely made a joke. It's not my fault NSG is full of humourless pedantic shitheads.

Of course, when your joke falls flat, it's not because it was poorly executed or entirely unrelated to the argument: it's because NSG is full of "humourless pedantic shitheads".

Ever heard of the phrase "A bad workman blames his tools"?

We're his tools?

[Tajikijaditistan]

It's common courtesy to back up your unsubstantiated bullshit with actual sources.

Yeah I know. I was making a joke, as earlier he had said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. Fuck sake NSG, lighten up and get the rod out your ass.

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

waiting for you to post some new sources

HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!

It's common courtesy to back up your unsubstantiated bullshit with actual sources.

Backing up this so called bull s*** can be done by anyone.
I search the entire of Youtube all the time for where I got this entire stuff from to back up my reasons. They all came from the channel europarl and ukipmedia and ukipwebmaster.
No, I am not your errand boy and I dont need to back it up.

So its just come to petty tit-for-tat arguments?

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

Read the thread again. He had already said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. When CtP (Or was it North Suran) asked for a source again, I merely made a joke. It's not my fault NSG is full of humourless pedantic shitheads.

Of course, when your joke falls flat, it's not because it was poorly executed or entirely unrelated to the argument: it's because NSG is full of "humourless pedantic shitheads".

Ever heard of the phrase "A bad workman blames his tools"?

So is has just just come to petty tit-for-tat arguments with no relevance to the original thread.

Is it possible to get back to the original topic?

[Hairless Kitten II]

Well, I'm an American so I don't know too much about this EU debate, (and I don't want to engage in this UK debate) but I think unififcation would end in disaster.

It was not a disaster for USA.

May I remind you that before the EC existed we were fighting with each other every 20 or 30 years (And no Yugoslavia wasn't a country of the EC).

[GetBert]

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

Read the thread again. He had already said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. When CtP (Or was it North Suran) asked for a source again, I merely made a joke. It's not my fault NSG is full of humourless pedantic shitheads.

Here is a hint, jokes need to be funny to other people as well.

[Hairless Kitten II]

Yelling in full caps "HE'S NOT YOUR FUCKING ERRAND BOY!!!!" seems more indicative of flaming than sarcasm.

You can't throw your hands up and blame the public for your own failure.

Read the thread again. He had already said he wasn't CtP's errand boy. When CtP (Or was it North Suran) asked for a source again, I merely made a joke. It's not my fault NSG is full of humourless pedantic shitheads.

Of course, when your joke falls flat, it's not because it was poorly executed or entirely unrelated to the argument: it's because NSG is full of "humourless pedantic shitheads".

Ever heard of the phrase "A bad workman blames his tools"?

[Buffett and Colbert]

Do you have even a vague understanding of what the European Union does?

[Dzvasdvsdv]

Here is a hint, jokes need to be funny to other people as well.

Some one once said "The object of a joke is to make people laugh. Even if that one person is you, you've succeeded."

Regardless of whether it was funny or not, it was not supposed to be taken seriously. And even if I was being serious, you'd have to be completely deranged to construe it as flaming.

[Dontlivehereville]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

[Hairless Kitten II]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

Lets see... What's worse? War or a little corruption? I go for war.

[Buffett and Colbert]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

That's quite a bit a fail there in one phrase. If anything, it would INHIBIT corruption! Too many responsible countries as one, unless you're sex crazed Berslusconi on a mission, not much with respect to corruption would get passed everyone's eyes.

[Tubbsalot]

Well I liked your joke, Mr. Dsdksdkskdskd.

[Tajikijaditistan]

Well, I'm an American so I don't know too much about this EU debate, (and I don't want to engage in this UK debate) but I think unififcation would end in disaster.

It was not a disaster for USA.

May I remind you that before the EC existed we were fighting with each other every 20 or 30 years (And no Yugoslavia wasn't a country of the EC).

It was a different circumstance in the US, there the US government gradually took over the whole of the land that is now in the US for the federal government, the separate states didn't exist separately prior to the creation of the federal government of the USA: the land was either annexed from Mexico, France or the Native Americans (btw I'm talking about after Independence).

[Dzvasdvsdv]

Well I liked your joke, Mr. Dsdksdkskdskd.

Thankyou. At least one person here you isn't an Aspergic armchair politician.

[Dontlivehereville]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

Lets see... What's worse? War or a little corruption? I go for war.

who says unification by itself will put an end to war? have you ever read 1984? there were only 4 nations in the world and they were at constant war with each other to keep citizen's eyes on foreign enemies as opposed to the corruption inherent in their government

[Buffett and Colbert]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

Lets see... What's worse? War or a little corruption? I go for war.

who says unification by itself will put an end to war? have you ever read 1984? there were only 4 nations in the world and they were at constant war with each other to keep citizen's eyes on foreign enemies as opposed to the corruption inherent in their government

Because everything George Orwell writes must be true.

[Wakenfield]

And since we're such a drain on your time and resources apparently, why are you so opposed to us gaining independance?

because it needlessly creates a divided island along with a legal nightmare of epic proportions

This.

The less states in the world, the better imo.

To an extent.

While I wouldn't want some Holy Roman Empire-esque scenario where Europe alone was composed of over 400 states, likewise I do not want a world where several nationalities where subjugated under one massive State.

Agreed. Europe during the cold war had a nice collection of medium sized states exc the Soviets and Albania which has mostly decayed into unremarkable tiny 'nation'-states.

Yes map aesthetics should totally be the primary concern when creating countries. But in all seriousness, while I'm not a fan of mega states I'm not a fan of Balkanisation either.

[Dontlivehereville]

Because everything George Orwell writes must be true.

it's just an example. you see one possibility of unification and I see another, just because mine is pessimistic doesn't make it any less valid

[Dzvasdvsdv]

there were only 4 nations in the world

3 actually.

[Dontlivehereville]

there were only 4 nations in the world

3 actually.

sorry, haven't read it in a while

[Buffett and Colbert]

Because everything George Orwell writes must be true.

it's just an example. you see one possibility of unification and I see another, just because mine is pessimistic doesn't make it any less valid

You cite a fictional book as evidence to support your case.

...

I call fail.

[Hairless Kitten II]

Well, I'm an American so I don't know too much about this EU debate, (and I don't want to engage in this UK debate) but I think unififcation would end in disaster.

It was not a disaster for USA.

May I remind you that before the EC existed we were fighting with each other every 20 or 30 years (And no Yugoslavia wasn't a country of the EC).

It was a different circumstance in the US, there the US government gradually took over the whole of the land that is now in the US for the federal government, the separate states didn't exist separately prior to the creation of the federal government of the USA: the land was either annexed from Mexico, France or the Native Americans (btw I'm talking about after Independence).

Well, in Europe, countries are not forced to join the EC. Some do not, others partly and most can't wait.

[Hairless Kitten II]

The whole world is heading down the unification road

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it were being done for the stated reasons, but I don't think that's the case. it's a good idea in theory because it could remove many of the obstacles to peace and prosperity, but consolidating the power WILL lead to widespread corruption. not to mention that most of it is a banking and economic ploy to eliminate trade restrictions and allow for the financial gutting of smaller nations

Lets see... What's worse? War or a little corruption? I go for war.

who says unification by itself will put an end to war? have you ever read 1984? there were only 4 nations in the world and they were at constant war with each other to keep citizen's eyes on foreign enemies as opposed to the corruption inherent in their government

Oh you are one of those guys that believe that people can fly after reading Peter Pan?

[North Suran]

Well I liked your joke, Mr. Dsdksdkskdskd.

Thankyou. At least one person here you isn't an Aspergic armchair politician.

Your continued childish tantrum against a strawman audience is much more humourous, however.