Feminist type.

[The Rich Port]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

There are many paths to individuation, extreme stoicness being the one you've taken.

Ask yourself: is it really necessary to isolate yourself in order to not be polluted by the world?

Is the world truly so polluted with bad morals that such isolation is necessary?

[Norstal]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

Probably because that's not moral perfection and that such things are not possible.

[Kvatchdom]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

...WHy do you do all that? There's no such thing as "Morally perfect"... You see, many women enjoy sex. Friendship is needed to stay sane. Human Contact (AKA social affairs) are important too. Don't isolate yourself. You'll just become more lust and more socially awkward. You cannot live a life without friendship or social life.
I don't judge, I'm just curious. Why do you think that sex, friendship and human contacts are immoral? Besides, there's no help in being "morally perfect". You live, you die. The end.

[Farnhamia]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

Not bad, just ... misguided.

And what a great idea for a song.

[The Rich Port]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

Probably because that's not moral perfection and that such things are not possible.

That too.

In other words, no such thing as "perfection" = no such thing as moral perfection.

Why is everyone always trying to be perfect all the time? *dissaproving headshake*

[Four-sided Triangles]

Is the world truly so polluted with bad morals that such isolation is necessary?

1. Yes.

2. The isolation is more because such contact leads to bad morality, rather than due to society simply having bad morals a priori.

[Dakini]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect. And people still judge me as bad for it.

You're suggesting that everyone should put themselves through hell. You're proclaiming that you know how other people should run their lives.

Of course people are judging you.

[The Rich Port]

Is the world truly so polluted with bad morals that such isolation is necessary?

1. Yes.

2. The isolation is more because such contact leads to bad morality, rather than due to society simply having bad morals a priori.

Are you saying the whole world is morally polluted?

Because that would include me. And by that definition, you would be riding the "moral high horse".

[Four-sided Triangles]

You're suggesting that everyone should put themselves through hell. You're proclaiming that you know how other people should run their lives.

Of course people are judging you.

You proclaim that everyone should be vegan. You proclaim that it's healthier, and therefore that everyone should do it. Everyone judges. You're just pissy because my judgment is turned on you.

[Natapoc]

I believe in full gender equality. Many people tend to forget that 40% of family violence is caused by women, and that men who are being assaulted by women have less possibility of being helped.

Full gender equality means nobody has special rights.

If you're really for that (full gender equality) then you're a feminist. It's not feminists who like to pretend that women can't be cruel and violent sometimes. No one is making the argument that men should be or deserve to be abused. Well except perhaps the OP but he's not a feminist.

[Four-sided Triangles]

Are you saying the whole world is morally polluted?

A lot of it is. Anti-intellectual, selfish, etc..

[Natapoc]

You're suggesting that everyone should put themselves through hell. You're proclaiming that you know how other people should run their lives.

Of course people are judging you.

You proclaim that everyone should be vegan. You proclaim that it's healthier, and therefore that everyone should do it. Everyone judges. You're just pissy because my judgment is turned on you.

If you had 1% of the science backing up you're ideas as the vegan movement has I'd be interested. But you've still not shown any science that actually backs up your assertions.

[The Rich Port]

Are you saying the whole world is morally polluted?

A lot of it is. Anti-intellectual, selfish, etc..

A lot =/= all of it.

Opening yourself to the world won't necessarily make you an immoral person. Even then, being "immoral" isn't always a bad thing, and morality is always relative, constantly changing.

Sticking to your guns can make you antiquated; it doesn't surprise me some people say you sound like a conservative.

[Four-sided Triangles]

If you had 1% of the science backing up you're ideas as the vegan movement has I'd be interested. But you've still not shown any science that actually backs up your assertions.

HIV exists. Pregnancy exists. Condoms don't always work.

[Dakini]

You're suggesting that everyone should put themselves through hell. You're proclaiming that you know how other people should run their lives.

Of course people are judging you.

You proclaim that everyone should be vegan.

No I don't. I'm not even vegan. I don't even proclaim that everyone should be vegetarian. I think that many people eat way more meat than is healthy for themselves and for the planet. I also know that for some people, a diet without meat is more difficult than for others. At most, I advocate for people cutting down on their meat consumption (if someone asks, and some of my friends have and have reduced their meat consumption) and happily suggest many vegetarian recipes to my friends without suggesting that they cut meat out of their diet entirely.

You proclaim that it's healthier,

No I don't.

and therefore that everyone should do it.

No I don't. If I were to do a "and therefore everyone should do it" it would be from a "or else we'll probably kill the planet since current rates of meat consumption are entirely unsustainable" point of view.

Everyone judges.

Not really.

You're just pissy because my judgment is turned on you.

No, I'm just "pissy" because you're trying to tell me what's best for me when you don't fucking know me. I'm "pissy" because you're acting like all women are some sorts of damsels in distress who need to be rescued from their own sexual desires and like all men are horrible monsters for wanting to have sex. I'm "pissy" because your treatment/opinion of women when it comes to sex is insulting and denigrating to women. We're adults. We can make our own decisions. We can find respectful and loving partners. We can (and do) often enjoy sex. Penetration is not degrading, it can be orgasmic.

[Great Nepal]

I try to give up all my desires completely. I try to completely isolate myself from friendship, love, and human contact. I put myself through hell, all to become morally perfect.

Moral perfection is neither desirable nor possible.

And people still judge me as bad for it.

No, we just think you should go to a trained psychiatrist cos while all of NS is trained in medicine, we only take cases after psychiatrists have failed. Generally cos our treatments are extreme, like cutting off your head if it hurts etc.

[The Rich Port]

Moral perfection is neither desirable

Um... Why do YOU say that?

[Four-sided Triangles]

How is perfection undesirable? It's the only possible reason for being, to strive toward becoming as perfect as possible.

[Great Nepal]

How is perfection undesirable? It's the only possible reason for being, to strive toward becoming as perfect as possible.

Like Borg?
As I already said, if everything and everyone was perfect - life would be so boring that it wouldn't be worth living.
Everything is imperfect, and thats why there is uncertainty and that is what makes life fun.

[The Rich Port]

How is perfection undesirable? It's the only possible reason for being, to strive toward becoming as perfect as possible.

It's certainly desirable, but it's just not possible.

If perfection were all we strived for, we'd probably be more miserable than we are already, and that's saying a lot.

The universe isn't perfect, life isn't perfect, and our most perfect people are still imperfect.

IMO, it would take me a few trillion years to reach perfection, and even then I wouldn't want it.

[Four-sided Triangles]

It's certainly desirable, but it's just not possible.

If perfection were all we strived for, we'd probably be more miserable than we are already, and that's saying a lot.

The universe isn't perfect, life isn't perfect, and our most perfect people are still imperfect.

IMO, it would take me a few trillion years to reach perfection, and even then I wouldn't want it.

Misery is a fair price. Happiness just gets in the way of self-betterment.

[Dakini]

If you had 1% of the science backing up you're ideas as the vegan movement has I'd be interested. But you've still not shown any science that actually backs up your assertions.

HIV exists.

Monogamy exists. STD tests exist.

Pregnancy exists.

The pill exists. IUDs exist. Sponges exist. Diaphraghms exist. You know you can use more than one form of birth control at once, yes?
Oh plus: Sometimes women want to be pregnant.

Condoms don't always work.

The morning after pill exists. Backup methods of birth control exist. *yawn*

Plus, you've already made the point that you're even opposed to sex that involves two women... so I don't see how any of these issues concern lesbians (the HIV transmission rate for girl-on-girl action is like 0, lesbians can't get pregnant from having sex with other women and lesbians probably aren't using condoms).

[Dakini]

It's certainly desirable, but it's just not possible.

If perfection were all we strived for, we'd probably be more miserable than we are already, and that's saying a lot.

The universe isn't perfect, life isn't perfect, and our most perfect people are still imperfect.

IMO, it would take me a few trillion years to reach perfection, and even then I wouldn't want it.

Misery is a fair price. Happiness just gets in the way of self-betterment.

Newsflash: You're not perfect.

[Four-sided Triangles]

Newsflash: You're not perfect.

I know. That's the problem that needs fixing.

[Farnhamia]

If you had 1% of the science backing up you're ideas as the vegan movement has I'd be interested. But you've still not shown any science that actually backs up your assertions.

HIV exists. Pregnancy exists. Condoms don't always work.

You sound like Mrs. Parker ...

Résumé
Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live.