Not Our School, You've Got The AIDS

[Dazchan]

its not only by ass sex, but could be spitting^{[citation needed]}, coughing^{[citation needed]}, shitting^{[citation needed]}, pissing^{[citation needed]}, bleeding, anything. its a public safety hazard, and a private school has the right to deny entry to anyone they dont want in.

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[Erinkita]

Well I feel sorry for you - you're not guilty.

Wonderful. I feel so validated at having passed Bulgharia's purity test.

i am the Aryan nations, and i approve this message.

anyway, AIDS is serious shit. its not only by ass sex, but could be spitting, coughing, shitting, pissing, bleeding, anything. its a public safety hazard, and a private school has the right to deny entry to anyone they dont want in.

HIv is not transmitted through spitting, coughing, shitting, or pissing. Bleeding would only be a problem if someone else was also bleeding and they mashed their bloody wounds together.
EDIT: Or if someone drank his blood. But if that's likely to happen, I think an HIV-positive stuent is the least of the school's problems.

[Four-sided Triangles]

He should be ashamed of himself and did it with condome. That's the result. Ofcourse, if he had sex.
Ruined life, that's all.

So, how did you catch the disease?

So someone that makes one minor mistake deserves to have their entire life ruined forever? I'm not going to mince words with you, that's incredibly fucked up.

[Flameswroth]

HIV is not transmitted through spitting, coughing, shitting, or pissing. Bleeding would only be a problem if someone else was also bleeding and they mashed their bloody wounds together.

In our plant safety meetings, they always warn us that bloodborne pathogens can be found in other bodily substances, if those substances contain a small amount of blood. So things like stool, urine, spittle and mucous are treated as though they can contain bloodborne pathogens, even if the blood involved is so dilute as to be unseen by the naked eye.

Of course, how likely is it that you catch the bloodborne pathogen from spit without visible blood present? Next to nil, but they teach us to treat it as biohazard to be sure.

[Erinkita]

HIV is not transmitted through spitting, coughing, shitting, or pissing. Bleeding would only be a problem if someone else was also bleeding and they mashed their bloody wounds together.

In our plant safety meetings, they always warn us that bloodborne pathogens can be found in other bodily substances, if those substances contain a small amount of blood. So things like stool, urine, spittle and mucous are treated as though they can contain bloodborne pathogens, even if the blood involved is so dilute as to be unseen by the naked eye.

Of course, how likely is it that you catch the bloodborne pathogen from spit without visible blood present? Next to nil, but they teach us to treat it as biohazard to be sure.

In the case of saliva, HIV simply can't survive in it. There are detectable components of the virus, but something about saliva destroys the infectious components. Probably all the enzymes and antibodies it's loaded with.
If there's blood present in feces, then it could transmit HIV, if it came into contact with someone else's mucus mebranes or bloodstream, but that isn't likely. Sitting on a toilet seat isn't going to do it. You pretty much have to chow down on someone else's bloody stool. Things like hepatitus A can live in human shit, but HIV is surprisingly delicate.'
The virus is present in urine, but in quantities too small to contract the disease.

[Ethel mermania]

Because he was immature and did wrongly.

So being bad at sex is a crime?

Seriously, how he got the virus has nothing to do with whether the school should accept him or not. The guy who paid for and endowded the school wanted the school to give troubled white orphan boys a stable enviorment and home. Now federal law says discrimination of the basis of race is illegal, so they let in all races. The law says nothing about illness, AIDS is a viral infection, therefor the school can let the kid not attend.

The school itself had a difficult time making the decision, and the question here is: did the school make the right decision. It has nothing to do with gays in the school. That said, the gay community is concerned as they have an understandable interest in promoting inclusion of all HIV infected people.

[The Aryan Nations]

its not only by ass sex, but could be spitting^{[citation needed]}, coughing^{[citation needed]}, shitting^{[citation needed]}, pissing^{[citation needed]}, bleeding, anything. its a public safety hazard, and a private school has the right to deny entry to anyone they dont want in.

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HIV is transmitted by any body fluid. such as semen or blood any real body fluid, however these are the highest danger

In our plant safety meetings, they always warn us that bloodborne pathogens can be found in other bodily substances, if those substances contain a small amount of blood. So things like stool, urine, spittle and mucous are treated as though they can contain bloodborne pathogens, even if the blood involved is so dilute as to be unseen by the naked eye.

Of course, how likely is it that you catch the bloodborne pathogen from spit without visible blood present? Next to nil, but they teach us to treat it as biohazard to be sure.

In the case of saliva, HIV simply can't survive in it. There are detectable components of the virus, but something about saliva destroys the infectious components. Probably all the enzymes and antibodies it's loaded with.
If there's blood present in feces, then it could transmit HIV, if it came into contact with someone else's mucus mebranes or bloodstream, but that isn't likely. Sitting on a toilet seat isn't going to do it. You pretty much have to chow down on someone else's bloody stool. Things like hepatitus A can live in human shit, but HIV is surprisingly delicate.'
The virus is present in urine, but in quantities too small to contract the disease.

you are aware that the human mouth is the most germ ridden part of the entire body, yes?

plenty of people bleed when they shit.

a woman sitting on a toilet seat to pee thats covered in urine, perhaps? only takes a few virus-microbes.

[Dazchan]

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HIV is transmitted by any body fluid. such as semen or blood any real body fluid, however these are the highest danger

It would be lovely if you read your own sources:

HIV is not transmitted by handshakes or other casual non-sexual contact, coughing or sneezing, or by bloodsucking insects such as mosquitoes.

Other body fluids and waste products-like feces, nasal fluid, saliva, sweat, tears, urine, or vomit-don’t contain enough HIV to infect you, unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them.

So, yeah, your scaremongering about this kid spitting, coughing, pissing or shitting and infecting his classmates is bullshit.

[Erinkita]

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HIV is transmitted by any body fluid. such as semen or blood any real body fluid, however these are the highest danger

In the case of saliva, HIV simply can't survive in it. There are detectable components of the virus, but something about saliva destroys the infectious components. Probably all the enzymes and antibodies it's loaded with.
If there's blood present in feces, then it could transmit HIV, if it came into contact with someone else's mucus mebranes or bloodstream, but that isn't likely. Sitting on a toilet seat isn't going to do it. You pretty much have to chow down on someone else's bloody stool. Things like hepatitus A can live in human shit, but HIV is surprisingly delicate.'
The virus is present in urine, but in quantities too small to contract the disease.

you are aware that the human mouth is the most germ ridden part of the entire body, yes?

plenty of people bleed when they shit.

a woman sitting on a toilet seat to pee thats covered in urine, perhaps? only takes a few virus-microbes.

Dazchan has already pointed out that your own sources disagree with you, so there's nothing much for me to do except say that I love it when people who have no idea what they're talking about try to educate me on the disease I've been living with my whole life. There's nothing like the potent combination of ignorance and egotism.

[Cromarty]

It's not nearly as contagious as many other infections, though, considering that it pretty much has to be transferred through blood, or sexually. It's not like coughing alone will do it, nor kissing.

Its also a bit more fatal than your typical case of the sniffles, and is incurable.

Allegedly.

[Cromarty]

I think that it was a perfectly just decision on the part of the school, in such classes as science were you may be dealing with sharp objects or if even one drop of blood enters the other student's body, they can contract a debilitating, serious, incurable, and possibly terminal disease. The safety of the many must be held above the needs of one student, not to mention that the student could infect multiple people who then infect others, as for sex, I think it is unrealistic to tell this boy that if he is admitted that he cannot have sex, if he does have sex then his sexual partner will contract the disease, Condoms do not help prevent HIVs or STDs and no other method than chastity does, and to assume that this student will remain celibate will be unrealistic.

There is a 0.05% chance of contracting the disease, so it's inaccurate to say that his sexual partner will contract the disease.

[Cromarty]

I also have not broken any forum rules so a moderator does not have just cause to silence me, any moderator that does will have a their condemnation proposed in the Security Council

And then said condemnation will be thrown out for being illegal, closely followed by your ass to a chorus of laughing. >_>

[Flameswroth]

In the case of saliva, HIV simply can't survive in it. There are detectable components of the virus, but something about saliva destroys the infectious components. Probably all the enzymes and antibodies it's loaded with.
If there's blood present in feces, then it could transmit HIV, if it came into contact with someone else's mucus mebranes or bloodstream, but that isn't likely. Sitting on a toilet seat isn't going to do it. You pretty much have to chow down on someone else's bloody stool. Things like hepatitus A can live in human shit, but HIV is surprisingly delicate.'
The virus is present in urine, but in quantities too small to contract the disease.

Oh yeah, they definitely made sure to note that, even in a pool of blood, HIV has a really hard time living outside the body for anything more than a minutes/hours time line. Hep B and C can just chill for like, days, and still infect you. The class is on blood borne pathogens in generally so it covered them all.

My main reason in bringing it up is to, perhaps, grant insight into how urine or spit could have the virus in it (via blood contained therein), even if it is an incredibly unlikely avenue of infection.

[Odins Scandinavia]

I also have not broken any forum rules so a moderator does not have just cause to silence me, any moderator that does will have a their condemnation proposed in the Security Council

And then said condemnation will be thrown out for being illegal, closely followed by your ass to a chorus of laughing. >_>

you sir, have my internets for a week. that was bawss.

[The Aryan Nations]

HIV is transmitted by any body fluid. such as semen or blood any real body fluid, however these are the highest danger

It would be lovely if you read your own sources:

HIV is not transmitted by handshakes or other casual non-sexual contact, coughing or sneezing, or by bloodsucking insects such as mosquitoes.

Other body fluids and waste products-like feces, nasal fluid, saliva, sweat, tears, urine, or vomit-don’t contain enough HIV to infect you, unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them

So, yeah, your scaremongering about this kid spitting, coughing, pissing or shitting and infecting his classmates is bullshit.

read the bold.

Other body fluids and waste products-like feces, nasal fluid, saliva, sweat, tears, urine, or vomit-don’t contain enough HIV to infect you, unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them

[Erinkita]

It would be lovely if you read your own sources:



So, yeah, your scaremongering about this kid spitting, coughing, pissing or shitting and infecting his classmates is bullshit.

read the bold.

Other body fluids and waste products-like feces, nasal fluid, saliva, sweat, tears, urine, or vomit-don’t contain enough HIV to infect you, unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them

Yeah, spending a few minutes splashing around in a puddle of fresh bloody urine may get you infected if you drink some of it. Who do you think is going to be doing that?
Moreover, what was your school life like that you think students will have such intimate contact with each other's bodily excretions?

[Dazchan]

It would be lovely if you read your own sources:



So, yeah, your scaremongering about this kid spitting, coughing, pissing or shitting and infecting his classmates is bullshit.

read the bold.

Other body fluids and waste products-like feces, nasal fluid, saliva, sweat, tears, urine, or vomit-don’t contain enough HIV to infect you, unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them

Try reading the entire sentence instead of cherrypicking a phrase that doesn't stand on its own.

Also, do you honestly expect the other students to have "direct contact" with his faeces?

[Whairtia]

"A 13-year-old boy who applied to a Hershey, Pa., boarding school told ABC News that it never crossed his mind he would be denied entry because he was HIV-positive.

"I thought I would get into the school, because of the type of student and person I am," he told ABC News in a written interview through his lawyer.

As a result of the school's decision, he added, "my life has turned into fear, anger, confusion and tears."

The school said today that its residential setting and the risk of sexual activity made the teen too much of a "threat." "

Did a quick search so I hope this wasn't posted but this is horrible. Is this even legal?

"The AIDS Law Project has filed suit on behalf of the boy, whose name is being withheld because of his age, on Wednesday in Philadelphia District Court, alleging that the Milton Hershey School violated the Americans with Disabilities Act, which includes HIV in its scope. "

Ah, so it isn't legal, right?


http://abcnews.go.com/US/hiv-positive-s ... t0gq9Wlunf

I can't believe this actually happened.

I am doing a report on that for money how weird, anyways I hope the school gets a lot of loss out of it's revenue for doing so.

[Polruan]

Also, do you honestly expect the other students to have "direct contact" with his faeces?

Replace faeces with blood and it's certainly possible.

[Salandriagado]

It's not nearly as contagious as many other infections, though, considering that it pretty much has to be transferred through blood, or sexually. It's not like coughing alone will do it, nor kissing.

Its also a bit more fatal than your typical case of the sniffles, and is incurable.

Actually...

[Seibertron]

affirmative action sigh

[Dazchan]

Also, do you honestly expect the other students to have "direct contact" with his faeces?

Replace faeces with blood and it's certainly possible.

Which isn't what myself and Aryan Nations are discussing, but I'll bite anyway.

It is possible that a student may come into direct contact with another student's blood. It is unlikely that such contact would occur in a manner that would result in HIV infection. But don't take my word for it. Let's ask our resident HIV+ poster Erinkita how many students have come in direct contact with his/her blood and been infected?

[Farnhamia]

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HIV is transmitted by any body fluid. such as semen or blood any real body fluid, however these are the highest danger

In the case of saliva, HIV simply can't survive in it. There are detectable components of the virus, but something about saliva destroys the infectious components. Probably all the enzymes and antibodies it's loaded with.
If there's blood present in feces, then it could transmit HIV, if it came into contact with someone else's mucus mebranes or bloodstream, but that isn't likely. Sitting on a toilet seat isn't going to do it. You pretty much have to chow down on someone else's bloody stool. Things like hepatitus A can live in human shit, but HIV is surprisingly delicate.'
The virus is present in urine, but in quantities too small to contract the disease.

you are aware that the human mouth is the most germ ridden part of the entire body, yes?

plenty of people bleed when they shit.

a woman sitting on a toilet seat to pee thats covered in urine, perhaps? only takes a few virus-microbes.

You obviously know nothing about women. We are taught, from a very early age, that if you must use a public restroom, do not sit but HOVER.

As for the human mouth, yes, there is a lot of bacteria there, but most people do not bleed through their gums and cheeks on a continuous basis.

I'm not sure I'd want to go to a school where the administration couldn't come up with a plausible other reason for denying me admission. Shows a remarkable lack of imagination.

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

I'm more curious about how the 13 year old got HIV. So very young.

The parents.
Derp.
I am against the student attending the school, but only marginally. AIDS is such a dangerous disease that coed boarding schools are probably not the place for it.

[Erinkita]

Replace faeces with blood and it's certainly possible.

Which isn't what myself and Aryan Nations are discussing, but I'll bite anyway.

It is possible that a student may come into direct contact with another student's blood. It is unlikely that such contact would occur in a manner that would result in HIV infection. But don't take my word for it. Let's ask our resident HIV+ poster Erinkita how many students have come in direct contact with his/her blood and been infected?

Thank you, Dazchan. I am in my second-to-last year of high school and the number of people so far who have ingested my blood or had it mixed with theirs in some way is zero. Zilch. Nada.