US saves Europe.

[Keronians]

To be honest, it probably did have a bit of influence. Though nothing significant.

One of the reasons for dropping the nuclear bombs was exactly to prevent the USSR getting a significant hold on that front, and then having to split Japan up the same way as Germany.

I'd say around 1 million men appearing and smashing an entire front within a few weeks would make an impact.

To any normal nation, yes.

To Japan, no.

To begin with, how would the USSR even dock in the Homeland?

[Caninope]

The Soviet Union had an effect on the Japanese surrender in World War II?

It was going to be another several months before the Soviets could have even mounted anything close to an offensive on the Japanese front.

The offensive into Manchuria ring any bells? The Soviet Union managed to transport over 1 million men and thousands of artillery and other military equipment across Russia without the Japanese noticing and launched an invasion that crushed a similar sized force. The entrance of the Soviet Union into the war against Japan more then likely had an equal impact as the one caused by the dropping of the nuclear bomb.

Japan's fate was already sealed by August 9th. The Japanese already knew they were going to lose their holdings, and without the atomic bomb, it would have come down to a fight over the Japanese island chain, not China.

EDIT: I'll concede that it might have had an effect on the surrender, but a minimal one.

[Keronians]

The offensive into Manchuria ring any bells? The Soviet Union managed to transport over 1 million men and thousands of artillery and other military equipment across Russia without the Japanese noticing and launched an invasion that crushed a similar sized force. The entrance of the Soviet Union into the war against Japan more then likely had an equal impact as the one caused by the dropping of the nuclear bomb.

Japan's fate was already sealed by August 9th. The Japanese already knew they were going to lose their holdings, and without the atomic bomb, it would have come down to a fight over the Japanese island chain, not China.

Though the Japanese still had hopes of making an operation against the Homeland unsustainable.

By just basically killing every soldier they found, and by throwing every man, woman, and child they had at the Americans.

[Zwitterjiund]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577069960192509068.html?mod=WSJ_economy_LEADStoryTop


The federal reserve, Central bank of Japan, Central bank of Canada, Central bank of the UK, Central bank of Switzerland, and the European central bank have stepped into to save the financial systems of Europe.

The US is injecting liquidity into European markets with short term low interest rate loans.

So does this mean on my next trip to Europe I get more ass kissing ?


Personally I do not think we should have gotten involved. Trying to bailout an economy bigger then our own doesn't make much sense.

What does NSG think ?

No arse kissing will be issued at all, if anything you'll get lynched by my good friend Charles Bronson

[Malgrave]

I'd say around 1 million men appearing and smashing an entire front within a few weeks would make an impact.

To any normal nation, yes.

To Japan, no.

To begin with, how would the USSR even dock in the Homeland?

The American Air-Force was already bombing Japan into the stone age during the final stages of the Pacific Campaign. What would of addition of the Soviet Air-Force do into the conflict? A Soviet offensive would be launched from Vladivostok? This thread is an interesting read and the second page lists the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet which is quite large.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... apan/page2

[Caninope]

To any normal nation, yes.

To Japan, no.

To begin with, how would the USSR even dock in the Homeland?

The American Air-Force was already bombing Japan into the stone age during the final stages of the Pacific Campaign. What would of addition of the Soviet Air-Force do into the conflict? A Soviet offensive would be launched from Vladivostok? This thread is an interesting read and the second page lists the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet which is quite large.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... apan/page2

A Soviet offense launched from Vladivostok is unrealistic, especially if the conflict had been extended by a few months.

[The Black Plains]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577069960192509068.html?mod=WSJ_economy_LEADStoryTop


The federal reserve, Central bank of Japan, Central bank of Canada, Central bank of the UK, Central bank of Switzerland, and the European central bank have stepped into to save the financial systems of Europe.

The US is injecting liquidity into European markets with short term low interest rate loans.

So does this mean on my next trip to Europe I get more ass kissing ?


Personally I do not think we should have gotten involved. Trying to bailout an economy bigger then our own doesn't make much sense.

What does NSG think ?

No arse kissing will be issued at all, if anything you'll get lynched by my good friend Charles Bronson

Hey, his book on working out in confined spaces helped me get ripped!

[Malgrave]

The American Air-Force was already bombing Japan into the stone age during the final stages of the Pacific Campaign. What would of addition of the Soviet Air-Force do into the conflict? A Soviet offensive would be launched from Vladivostok? This thread is an interesting read and the second page lists the Royal Navy Pacific Fleet which is quite large.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... apan/page2

A Soviet offense launched from Vladivostok is unrealistic, especially if the conflict had been extended by a few months.

Why was it fairly unrealistic?
The Japanese Military hardly had any weapons and ammunition to fight anyway. Any effective close air-support would of been incredibly effective considering the Japanese were most likely hedging their bets on winning one crushing defensive battle that and the possibility that the Americans would use chemical weapons.

The Japanese situation was so bad that people were armed with musket, bows and improvised weapons

[Caninope]

A Soviet offense launched from Vladivostok is unrealistic, especially if the conflict had been extended by a few months.

Why was it fairly unrealistic?
The Japanese Military hardly had any weapons and ammunition to fight anyway. Any effective close air-support would of been incredibly effective considering the Japanese were most likely hedging their bets on winning one crushing defensive battle that and the possibility that the Americans would use chemical weapons.

The Japanese situation was so bad that people were armed with musket, bows and improvised weapons

The Soviet military was pretty extended by August 1945, what with Europe, Manchuria, and all. To expect them to launch an offensive through Siberia, especially as winter came around, is expecting too much.

[Costa Fiero]

...FIAT saved Chrysler.

The second time Chrysler nearly went bankrupt, yes. But the Germans did it the first time.

[Lackadaisical2]

Don't we always take a hit for the "team" and the get yelled at?

Fine.

Don't help and see the lack of a recovery due to contagion from Europe.

We've already been seeing that.

[Tiful]

They've been doing it for a while now without any clear effect. Just like the majority of the Eurozone and other nations, IMF ring any bells? Nah, you guys have been along for the ride a long time ago, just not willing to admit it.

[Tergnitz]

Topic should read: "US saves Europe....Again...and Again and Again."

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Topic should read: "US saves Europe....Again...and Again and Again."

Now just wait for WWIII.

[Tergnitz]

Topic should read: "US saves Europe....Again...and Again and Again."

Now just wait for WWIII.

Prove me wrong Europe, prove me wrong.

[Pingxiang]

Why was it fairly unrealistic?
The Japanese Military hardly had any weapons and ammunition to fight anyway. Any effective close air-support would of been incredibly effective considering the Japanese were most likely hedging their bets on winning one crushing defensive battle that and the possibility that the Americans would use chemical weapons.

The Japanese situation was so bad that people were armed with musket, bows and improvised weapons

The Soviet military was pretty extended by August 1945, what with Europe, Manchuria, and all. To expect them to launch an offensive through Siberia, especially as winter came around, is expecting too much.

The Soviets controlled the Northern part of Sakhalin island. They just pushed the Japanese out of the Southern part of Sakhalin. Japan had taken control of the Southern part when Russia lost the 1905 war with Japan.

Short video on Russians remembering WW II against Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9gmmDw6sk

Sakhalin island showing Japanese occupation of Southern part.



Russians also took back the Kuril islands.

[Parti Ouvrier]

US saves Europe in temporary fix. The usual c**p in other words.

[Occupied Deutschland]

US saves Europe in temporary fix. The usual c**p in other words.

Uhm...What are the two letters that are supposed to be between "c" and "p"?
Carp?
Clap?
Camp?

Edit:

[Lackadaisical2]

US saves Europe in temporary fix. The usual c**p in other words.

Uhm...What are the two letters that are supposed to be between "c" and "p"?
Carp?
Clap?
Camp?

Edit:

Damnit, you caught yourself before I could reply...

[Caotic chaos]

geuss which one is europe.













its not the devil

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

And America saves the day. Again.
*bows*

[Parti Ouvrier]

And America saves the day. Again.
*bows*

Dream on. Like I said, the fix is temporary.

[Caninope]

And America saves the day. Again.
*bows*

Dream on. Like I said, the fix is temporary.

As long as humanity lives, any fix will be temporary.

[Gauntleted Fist]

And America saves the day. Again.
*bows*

Dream on. Like I said, the fix is temporary.

And?

What do you want, some mythical dream solution that solves all the financial ill of the worlds? Oh, you have a Communist flag. You actually do want that. What a surprise.

[Neu Leonstein]

The problem with a thread title like this is that people end up arguing about the Soviets and Japan.

Central banks work with each other. And they are lenders of last resort. I think phrasing this whole thing in terms of one country doing anything to another is not the right approach. The Fed lends dollars as LOLR, as it is supposed to. The US dollar is a world reserve currency, banks all around the world can crap out if they don't have US dollars. And the world financial system hurts when that happens. So the Fed lends money, through its various partners.

That's a technical issue, I think the OP was bound to distract from that.