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Postby Nazis in Space » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:22 am

Thank you for your money America~

I needed a new set of furniture, and you made it possible~

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:23 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Then why did you put save in the title?

change title to "US, Japan, Canada, UK, Switzerland and Europe give money to Europe".

tia

Pro-tip: Taking G&D so seriously is seldom a good idea.

You make it sound like I intentionally torture people who are overly serious.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:24 am

greed and death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pro-tip: Taking G&D so seriously is seldom a good idea.

You make it sound like I intentionally torture people who are overly serious.

Psh, we would never do something like that.

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Postby Alyakia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:25 am

greed and death wrote:
Alyakia wrote:Then why did you put save in the title?

change title to "US, Japan, Canada, UK, Switzerland and Europe give money to Europe".

tia

Too long, and I don't know if Europe agreeing to accept money constitutes giving.

"US, Japan, Canada, UK, Switzerland & EU give money to Europe" will fit~
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:26 am

greed and death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pro-tip: Taking G&D so seriously is seldom a good idea.

You make it sound like I intentionally torture people who are overly serious.

You? Never!
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Postby Alyakia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:26 am

greed and death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pro-tip: Taking G&D so seriously is seldom a good idea.

You make it sound like I intentionally torture people who are overly serious.

oh man you are so cool

it's like trolling but ok
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Postby Eosylvania » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:27 am

US pays for part of all the economies they broke.

How does that sound to you?
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Postby Nazis in Space » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:28 am

America pays for NiS' new cupboard, bed, and antique ivory desk + chair.

Perfect title, if you ask me~

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Postby JuNii » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:30 am

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I wonder if they won't wear pants from now on?


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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:31 am

Alyakia wrote:
greed and death wrote:Too long, and I don't know if Europe agreeing to accept money constitutes giving.

"US, Japan, Canada, UK, Switzerland & EU give money to Europe" will fit~


Okay here i will get serious.
The deal was for quantitative easing, specifically for more US dollars in EU banks.
The EU's or Europe part in the deal was allowing the preceding countries to give them US Dollars.
While Japan, Canada, Switzerland and the UK likely have significant foreign reserves of Dollars, their supply of dollars is dwarfed by the Federal reserve bank in the US.

So for the sake of brevity I Choose the title the US saves Europe.

My decision on the matter is final.
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Postby Hydesland » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:41 am

G&D is basically right, this wouldn't have happened without the Fed. Whether the 'save' part is correct or not is another issue.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:45 am

Hydesland wrote:G&D is basically right, this wouldn't have happened without the Fed. Whether the 'save' part is correct or not is another issue.

Saved, Delayed the inevitable, provided cushion for the banks of Europe while Italy and Greece Default anyways, attempting to embarrasses Germany into doing more.
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:51 am

Great Agram wrote:First, the US dont save Europe, acctually Germany saved the US in the past 2 years when GM had crisis. US only saves greece.


Yeah, because Greece defaulting and pulling out of the Euro would have no ramifications at all for the rest of the Eurozone. :p

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Postby Xanixi » Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:58 am

Because I feel this is necessary...

I currently live in Spain, after having lived most of my life in the US. I love the US, but I like Spain (So far). The Eurozone collapsing is a sad thought, and one that I sincerely hope doesnt actually happen, for the US, Europe, hell, the entire world! 2/3 of the world economy depends on American Consumerism, and the rest relies on nations that rely on American Consumerism. The US has a large dependence on the Euro, and Europe itself. If the Eurozone collapses, that causes a massive drop of the Dollar, and the US economy. As that occurs, the World Economy starts to fall down with it. As of now, I feel that the Eurozone is on the very edge of Mt. Everest.

Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz, a former chief economist at the World Bank and arch critic of the IMF, has made an interesting prediction. He has not forecast the end of the euro, as some are paraphrasing him, rather that the euro may continue, but with one member missing: Germany.

Frankly, Mr Stiglitz has a point. It really does seem that, looking forward, the euro can go one of three ways: it can see closer political union, in which the richer regions subsidise the poorer ones. It could see the indebted countries leave the euro, or it could see Germany exit. Frankly, we would have thought the third scenario is by far the most likely.


Germany's economy is one, of not THE, strongest economy in all of Europe. If they collapse, there is a massive gap in the Euro that no other nation can actually fill up. Even now, due to its problems, many believe that it would be a better idea for all nations to go back to the economy they had BEFORE the Euro was introduced. The gap that Germany will leave behind will be that final breeze that pushes the Euro over the edge. As that occurs, many European nations go back to their earlier collapsed economies, and creates a massive gap for the Dollar. That gap causes most national economies in the world to drop as well, which will therefore affect the economies of the rest of the world. The Collapse of the Euro sees the collapse of the World Economy via its influence and the Dollar's influence.

The US Government is doing what it can, but, just like every other nation in the world, it's short on cash. It's rather hard to rebuild a world economy when you're low on cash.
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Postby Oterro » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:04 pm

Ta lads I'm sure you'll get it back in no time.

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Postby Keronians » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:05 pm

It's not just the US, though.

And it's hardly the US doing Europe a favour. It has just as much to do with America trying to cover its own ass.

Just like the way Europe was thrown into chaos when America's bubble popped, Europe's continuous stagnation is preventing America from making a real recovery.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:07 pm

Oterro wrote:Ta lads I'm sure you'll get it back in no time.

rofl.

yeah it only took Germany until 2010 to pay off WWI debts.
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Postby Rynatia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:08 pm

greed and death wrote:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577069960192509068.html?mod=WSJ_economy_LEADStoryTop


The federal reserve, Central bank of Japan, Central bank of Canada, Central bank of the UK, Central bank of Switzerland, and the European central bank have stepped into to save the financial systems of Europe.

The US is injecting liquidity into European markets with short term low interest rate loans.

So does this mean on my next trip to Europe I get more ass kissing ?


Personally I do not think we should have gotten involved. Trying to bailout an economy bigger then our own doesn't make much sense.

What does NSG think ?



Honestly, us Europeans don't generally like you Americans.
With your wars
Absurd accents
Self-righteousness
Stealing of the English language and horrible justice and constitution systems.Not to mention how most of you are
Not to mention you and your bankers are also responsible for a depression through Europe.
over weight...So No you will not get any ass kissing America, we would prefer if you went back to isolation.
Love Europe

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Postby Keronians » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:08 pm

greed and death wrote:
Oterro wrote:Ta lads I'm sure you'll get it back in no time.

rofl.

yeah it only took Germany until 2010 to pay off WWI debts.


WWI? WWII debts...

WWI debts were removed, IIRC.
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· Private property
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:10 pm

Keronians wrote:
greed and death wrote:yeah it only took Germany until 2010 to pay off WWI debts.


WWI? WWII debts...

WWI debts were removed, IIRC.

Reparations were canceled, but the loans they had taken to pay reparations payments before cancellation were not canceled.
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Postby Keronians » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:11 pm

greed and death wrote:
Keronians wrote:
WWI? WWII debts...

WWI debts were removed, IIRC.

Reparations were canceled, but the loans they had taken to pay reparations payments before cancellation were not canceled.


Ah, my bad, then.
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· Private property
· Free foreign trade
· Exchange of goods and services
· Free formation of prices

· Market regulation
· Social security
· Universal healthcare
· Unemployment insurance

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:14 pm

Rynatia wrote:
greed and death wrote:http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204012004577069960192509068.html?mod=WSJ_economy_LEADStoryTop


The federal reserve, Central bank of Japan, Central bank of Canada, Central bank of the UK, Central bank of Switzerland, and the European central bank have stepped into to save the financial systems of Europe.

The US is injecting liquidity into European markets with short term low interest rate loans.

So does this mean on my next trip to Europe I get more ass kissing ?


Personally I do not think we should have gotten involved. Trying to bailout an economy bigger then our own doesn't make much sense.

What does NSG think ?



Honestly, us Europeans don't generally like you Americans.
With your wars
Absurd accents
Self-righteousness
Stealing of the English language and horrible justice and constitution systems.Not to mention how most of you are
Not to mention you and your bankers are also responsible for a depression through Europe.
over weight...So No you will not get any ass kissing America, we would prefer if you went back to isolation.
Love Europe


Obviously we will have to resort to gun boat diplomacy.
Marines seize European ports and collect export Tariffs until our good will and the cost of occupying the ports has been paid off.
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Postby Rynatia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:16 pm

Even if that was a possibility, the USA would not be capable of taking all of Europe and anyone else who would jump in.
Also that as far as I know the UK is still part of the EU.


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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:22 pm

Rynatia wrote:Even if that was a possibility, the USA would not be capable of taking all of Europe and anyone else who would jump in.
Also that as far as I know the UK is still part of the EU.

Of course we could. What you don't know is that over the last 65 years our brave young and, may I say, virile soldiers have been ... ah ... spreading American ... "values" all over Europe. As soon as the balloon goes up and millions of Europeans see the Stars and Stripes marching triumphantly toward them, they will throw down their arms and embrace their new paternal overlords.
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