Hitler or Stalin or Mao?

[Mirkana]

Hitler. Stalin and Mao never tried to kill people for the crime of being born.

[Querinos]

Hernan Cortes

[Lizardiar]

Hitler. Stalin and Mao never tried to kill people for the crime of being born.

Didn't Hitler kill Jews just because they were there?

[Ring of Isengard]

Hitler. Stalin and Mao never tried to kill people for the crime of being born.

Didn't Hitler kill Jews just because they were there?

No.

[Lizardiar]

Then why did he kill them?

[Puchi]

Then why did he kill them?

In Nazi ideology, because they were evil. They intentionally harmed the society.

You see, during the middle ages Jews were not allowed to own land (and hence farm) or practice trade. So the only thing that was left was money lending. That meant the Jews became an educated segment of society, This turned into an advantage in the 20th century when educat5ion was suddenly much more valuable, which led to the Jews occupying top posts: they were the lawyers, the doctors, the scientisits, the bankers. Freud, Einstein... The Jews became overrepresented in the upper class. Of course, ethincal Germans got jealous, and the Nazis started claiming that the Jews were the elite because of a sionist conspiracy. The Jews killed Jesus because they are evil. The Jews caused Germany's defeat in World War I because they are evil. The Jews brought on the great depression (when someone's rucher than you, it's easy to blame him for your poverty) because they are evil. So let's kill them so they won't be able to cause any more harm!It's hard to believe that most of Germany fell for this fucked up logic.

[x] Karl Marx.

Marx provided the insidiously brutal ideology that justified both Mao and Stalin (and also Pol Pot). Hitler briefly flirted with the commies as well. No Marx, no great butchers of the 20th century.

I don't think Marx is to blame. He created the ideology, sure. But that's like blaming Nobel for everyone who died because of dynamite. Or hell, let's blame the inventor of the wheel for car deaths! And the manufactures of knives for any murder done by a knife!

The ones who did (or ordered in this case) the actual killing are to blame. If you read the communist manifesto, Marx didn't intend for the bourgouise to be physically destroyed: simply have their property confisticated and become the working class (not that I agree with that either, but that's not the point).

[82 Eridani]

Hitler or Stalin? They're nothing compared to their fellow socialist authoritarian Barack Obama

America's right wing really is going crazy.

To elaborate on what I just posted, I think that both men were mentally disturbed to some extent,

Very likely, we know that they were abused as children.

[x] Karl Marx.

Marx provided the insidiously brutal ideology that justified both Mao and Stalin (and also Pol Pot). Hitler briefly flirted with the commies as well. No Marx, no great butchers of the 20th century.

No he did not, Marx made a prediction of the future which turned out to be wrong, he did not actually advocate it (though he did think that the issue would be forced in some countries).

Anyway, Hitler, because he fucked an alright country up, unlike Stalin and Mao, who were working with nothing.

Germany was hardly an alright country when Hitler took power (didn't they teach you about what the economy was like back then).

Stalin was simply a dictator who killed more than Hitler (largely through fear, paranoia, and personal bias/dislike) and forever left a black stain on Marxism. I blame Stalin on the attitude of so many people who think Communism is intended to be an authoritarian Dictatorship.

Communism isn't intended as an authoritarian dictatorship, but every time someone tries it that's what the result has ended up being.

Results matter more than intentions.

None of the above. They all helped build the world we live in today. Remember, the villain is just as necessary for progress as the hero.

If nothing else, they provide an example of what not to do.

Most regimes through history are examples of what not to do.

As much of a fucked up, paranoid Georgian Stalin was, with out him the USSR wouldn't have been a super power, let alone beat the Nazis.

I suspect the Trotskyists would disagree with you.

Also, those former USSR countries forget that they had people in the government too, so they can't blame Russia for everything. Besides, Stalin was Georgian.

People who would have been sent to Siberia had they angered Stalin.

Would you have said anything about stupid policies if Stalin were your boss?

[Vojvodina-Nihon]

Hitler or Stalin? They're nothing compared to their fellow socialist authoritarian Barack Obama

I think you made a typo there, friend. You misspelled "George W. Bush." Well, at least you got the right number of letters.







I have to say that, while Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were genocidal, mass-murdering fanatics, their existence is more or less necessary for society to have evolved to what it is today. Without them we never would have learned some important lessons about how easy it is for a normal person like you or me to become an instrument of the systematic extermination of entire races, political groups, and social classes, and how self-serving government policies and autocratic rule can easily cause the deaths of millions. Or something. My opinion on which is worse has already been stated by someone else, anyway, something like whether it was worse to die of cancer of the lungs or of the stomach.

[82 Eridani]

Hitler or Stalin? They're nothing compared to their fellow socialist authoritarian Barack Obama

I think you made a typo there, friend. You misspelled "George W. Bush." Well, at least you got the right number of letters.

Well said.

I have to say that, while Hitler, Stalin, and Mao were genocidal, mass-murdering fanatics, their existence is more or less necessary for society to have evolved to what it is today. Without them we never would have learned some important lessons about how easy it is for a normal person like you or me to become an instrument of the systematic extermination of entire races, political groups, and social classes, and how self-serving government policies and autocratic rule can easily cause the deaths of millions. Or something. My opinion on which is worse has already been stated by someone else, anyway, something like whether it was worse to die of cancer of the lungs or of the stomach.

The Milgram experiments were also important in terms of showing us what we can do (it's only due to them being able to get followers that those dictators were able to cause problems).

[Vojvodina-Nihon]

Hitler or Stalin? They're nothing compared to their fellow socialist authoritarian Barack Obama

I think you made a typo there, friend. You misspelled "George W. Bush." Well, at least you got the right number of letters.

Well said.

Ayumutopia was making a joke at the expense of conservatives. I followed up with a joke at the expense of left-wingers (and grammar naz-- er, geeks). My apologies if it failed to amuse.

[Secruss]

Stalin was a great leader.

Mao starved his people to death on ACCIDENT and Hitler drove the Third Reich into the ground.

[82 Eridani]

Stalin was a great leader.

I hope you're joking.

[Jaegersland]

Stalin didn't start the Communist regime in Russia, and while Hitler did start the Third Reich, I think Mao was the worst, as the Chinese Communist regime is still up today and is quite corrupt, while the ROC in Taiwan is what I would prefer to rule all of China.

[Falsonia]

Stalin didn't start the Communist regime in Russia, and while Hitler did start the Third Reich, I think Mao was the worst, as the Chinese Communist regime is still up today and is quite corrupt, while the ROC in Taiwan is what I would prefer to rule all of China.

ROC's not much better.

Also, nice gravedig.

[Ravea]

Can we combine all three of them into Hadolf Malin?

Or...Joe Hidong?

Or...Madolf Stitler?

[Falsonia]

Can we combine all three of them into Hadolf Malin?

Or...Joe Hidong?

Or...Madolf Stitler?

Why don't we create a new triumvirate of evil.

Hadolf Malin, Joe Hidong, and Madolf Stitler.

[82 Eridani]

Stalin didn't start the Communist regime in Russia,

But he was far worse than the people who did.

and while Hitler did start the Third Reich, I think Mao was the worst, as the Chinese Communist regime is still up today and is quite corrupt

The current Chinese government is a big improvement over what Mao created (although that's not exactly very hard to do given the great leap backwards he imposed).

while the ROC in Taiwan is what I would prefer to rule all of China.

ROC's not much better.

At the moment it very much is a lot better (back when the west started to actually talk to China they were about as bad as each other).

[Tina Fey]

The Chinese cultural revolution caused the death of 30 million people. And Mao had sex with underage virgins. So just by his idiocy and creepines Mao wins.

[Vetalia]

Hitler. He really went above and beyond either of the others in terms of sheer sadistic brutality. Hell, even Lavrentii Beria was tamer than a lot of the top Nazis in the SS...

[Jello Biafra]

While the crimes of Stalin and Mao are horrifying, Hitler was a bit worse. While killing someone at all is awful, Hitler targeted people for death specifically, whereas most of Stalin and Mao's killings were random. The law considers deliberate, targeted killing to be worse than random killing, and for good reason.

[Noble Hierachs]

None, the Prophet of Truth was way better.

[Maurepas]

Imll have to vote Stalin, simply because he's the one Id least want to live with...Mao and Hitler most likely wouldnt have killed me personally,

[Tokyoni]

[x] Karl Marx.

Marx provided the insidiously brutal ideology that justified both Mao and Stalin (and also Pol Pot). Hitler briefly flirted with the commies as well. No Marx, no great butchers of the 20th century.

This statement is so idiotic I don't even fully know how to respond. It's about parallel to blaming the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Hunts, and Holocaust on Jesus Christ (all of which were claimed to have his blessing)...

[Gauntleted Fist]

[x] Karl Marx.

Marx provided the insidiously brutal ideology that justified both Mao and Stalin (and also Pol Pot). Hitler briefly flirted with the commies as well. No Marx, no great butchers of the 20th century.

This statement is so idiotic I don't even fully know how to respond. It's about parallel to blaming the Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Hunts, and Holocaust on Jesus Christ (all of which were claimed to have his blessing)...

[Cameroi]

my cat says mao. but i don't always agree with him.