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Kirrig
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Postby Kirrig » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:04 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Cromarty wrote:This is what they said about Concord.

They were wrong.

Well, the French apparently never ran Concorde at a profit.


I don't know much about this, but I don't think the French are running it so you should be good.
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Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Tagmatium
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Postby Tagmatium » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:11 pm

Kirrig wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Well, the French apparently never ran Concorde at a profit.

I don't know much about this, but I don't think the French are running it so you should be good.

What?

Yeah, they've not run it since one of the crashed shortly after take over about ten years ago, which caused us to stop using Condorde as well.
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Postby Uthopia » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:11 pm

Cromwellia wrote:
Waric Germany wrote:The UK sucks Ireland is better


Aye that'll be why they come begging for cash.

You did not give cash, germany give the cash to ireland and greece and you have nothing to complain about.

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Postby Kirrig » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Kirrig wrote:I don't know much about this, but I don't think the French are running it so you should be good.

What?

Yeah, they've not run it since one of the crashed shortly after take over about ten years ago, which caused us to stop using Condorde as well.


No, the bus lane or whatever it is.
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Kirrig, since you seem to be unable to take hints, allow me make it explicitly clear - you are being ignored.

"Have you ever noticed... our caps... they have skulls on them..."
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Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Uthopia » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:16 pm

Aesthetica wrote:
Uthopia wrote:The british monarchy is anachronistic.


Yes, we know, that's why a majority of us like it... Apparently.

If you like to finance some lazy incestuous family, go ahead. but spare us for your complaining about the "undemocartiy" EU.

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Postby Uthopia » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Angleter wrote:
Uthopia wrote:The british monarchy is anachronistic.


What makes something "anachronistic"? Who decides what is "anachronistic" or not?

The kingdom was so middle ages. every civilised person says that.

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Postby Trixiestan » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:19 pm

Uthopia wrote:
Aesthetica wrote:
Yes, we know, that's why a majority of us like it... Apparently.

If you like to finance some lazy incestuous family, go ahead. but spare us for your complaining about the "undemocartiy" EU.

You do realise we aren't the only EU country which still retains their monarchy, right?
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Kirrig
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Postby Kirrig » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Uthopia wrote:
Angleter wrote:
What makes something "anachronistic"? Who decides what is "anachronistic" or not?

The kingdom was so middle ages. every civilised person says that.


There is a thread devoted to this very subject.
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Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Uthopia » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:21 pm

Trixiestan wrote:
Uthopia wrote:If you like to finance some lazy incestuous family, go ahead. but spare us for your complaining about the "undemocartiy" EU.

You do realise we aren't the only EU country which still retains their monarchy, right?

Yes, I know, but you are the only who is complaining about it and claiming you are a democratic land and we all are bunch of idiots.

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Postby Tagmatium » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:21 pm

Kirrig wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:What?

Yeah, they've not run it since one of the crashed shortly after take over about ten years ago, which caused us to stop using Condorde as well.

No, the bus lane or whatever it is.

Oh, derp.

I getcha.

To be honest, I'm not sure about the topic The Matthew Islands is on about, as I'm not from his neck of the woods. Which, from his councillor's name, seems to be Luton.

If they're anything like Bristol City Council, then they're ridiculously incompetant, no matter the party in power. However, on the flipside, if they're like Reading Town Council, then they're surprising competant, not matter the party in power.

Weird how shit goes.
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Postby Marcurix » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:31 pm

Uthopia wrote:
Trixiestan wrote:You do realise we aren't the only EU country which still retains their monarchy, right?

Yes, I know, but you are the only who is complaining about it and claiming you are a democratic land and we all are bunch of idiots.


uh-huh. Perhaps you could look into some of these things before you post.
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Postby Zero Six Three » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:47 am

Uthopia wrote:
Aesthetica wrote:
Yes, we know, that's why a majority of us like it... Apparently.

If you like to finance some lazy incestuous family, go ahead. but spare us for your complaining about the "undemocratic" EU.



Oh, you silly person.. The Royal family are just a circus side-show with no actual power or ability to affect the democratic process. They're nothing more than the nations pet celebrities.

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Postby The Matthew Islands » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:28 am

Cromarty wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Yeah, dunno where the fuck I pulled that from. I think its more likely 500k a year. Either way, I am 100% sure that the buslane will require council funding to keep it up rather than the 'pay for itself' crap trotted out.

This is what they said about Concord.

They were wrong.

This is what they said about Eurostar.

They were wrong.

This is what they said when trams were introduced to (I think) Manchester.

They were wrong.

Actually, Eurotunnel, the company that operated the Channel tunnel nearly went bankrupt and was only saved by the intervention of 3 banks.

Concord represented a massive loss in profits for BA and the French company that ran them and BA only managed to turn profits because (IIRC) it was state owned at the time so was able to take the hits, and had under priced tickets.

Manchester may have needed trams but Luton doesn't. Luton doesn't need a guided busway. You can get from Dunstable town centre to Luton town centre in about 45 minutes as it is.
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Cromwellia
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Postby Cromwellia » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:53 am

Uthopia wrote:
Cromwellia wrote:
Aye that'll be why they come begging for cash.

You did not give cash, germany give the cash to ireland and greece and you have nothing to complain about.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/fina ... ckage.html

Facts say different

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Postby Angleter » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:55 am

Uthopia wrote:
Trixiestan wrote:You do realise we aren't the only EU country which still retains their monarchy, right?

Yes, I know, but you are the only who is complaining about it and claiming you are a democratic land and we all are bunch of idiots.


How do the United KIngdom and the European Union elect their leaders?

United Kingdom: the people elect the House of Commons, and the leaders of the majority bloc (usually only the one party) are conventionally appointed to the government. This is a Parliamentary system- indeed, though uncommon, private members of the Commons can propose legislation, as well as the government.

European Union: the people elect the European Parliament. However, the government (Commission) does not sit in the Parliament, but is a separate executive, like a Presidential system. However, this body is not directly elected, but first has its leader proposed by the Council, i.e. the leaders of all the member-states, "taking into account" the latest elections. Once the Parliament has approved them, the leader goes round to all the member-states' governments, who between them choose the Commissioners. The leader then shuffles about their Commissioners and presents them to the Parliament, and it is either approved or the leader (President) is asked to go back and do some more shuffling or replace a few Commissioners. Eventually, the body is approved. This body, and not the elected Parliament, has legislative initiative, and Parliamentarians have to get Commission approval to propose legislation. However, the policy agenda is set by the 'motor' of integration, the aforementioned Council, whose leader and Foreign Affairs Rep. (foreign affairs being the Council's main forte) is chosen by its members.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:58 am

Uthopia wrote:
Angleter wrote:
What makes something "anachronistic"? Who decides what is "anachronistic" or not?

The kingdom was so middle ages. every civilised person says that.

The republic is so Ancient Rome... Every civilised person says that.
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Postby Angleter » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:03 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Uthopia wrote:The kingdom was so middle ages. every civilised person says that.

The republic is so Ancient Rome... Every civilised person says that.


Civilised people oppose the monarchy because they are civilised people because they oppose the monarchy because they are civilised people because they oppose the monarchy...
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Postby Kirrig » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:07 am

Kirrig wrote:
Uthopia wrote:The kingdom was so middle ages. every civilised person says that.


There is a thread devoted to this very subject.


*Blatantly advertises almost dead thread.*
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Kirrig, since you seem to be unable to take hints, allow me make it explicitly clear - you are being ignored.

"Have you ever noticed... our caps... they have skulls on them..."
"Hans... are we the baddies?"
Milks Empire wrote:
Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:08 am

Angleter wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:The republic is so Ancient Rome... Every civilised person says that.


Civilised people oppose the monarchy because they are civilised people because they oppose the monarchy because they are civilised people because they oppose the monarchy...

Which leads to the interesting question, "if monarchists are uncivilised and republicans civilised, were Stalin and Robespierre civilised men whereas Confucius and Voltaire were barbarians?"
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Postby Horsefish » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:15 am

DesAnges wrote:I know where Frome is mate :) and I'll thank you kindly not to call Keynsham part of Bristol :evil:

I was hopefully suggesting that Keynsham might be considered better than Frome. As you've never been here (technically there atm, oh university) then I can tell you it is in no way better than Frome from except for the football, rugby and cricket teams.


Pssh. The sports teams are only better due to the larger pool of people to get players from and the fact that glory hogs jump ship.

We had to paly keynsham a couple of years ago and a few of our players had started playing for them after hearing how good they were. They only beat us 7-5 :P
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:43 am

Uthopia wrote:
Aesthetica wrote:
Yes, we know, that's why a majority of us like it... Apparently.

If you like to finance some lazy incestuous family, go ahead. but spare us for your complaining about the "undemocartiy" EU.



1) The monarchy makes a net profit out of taxes on tourist income
2) Monarchies are, on average, more democratic than democracies.
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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Kirrig » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:47 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Kirrig, since you seem to be unable to take hints, allow me make it explicitly clear - you are being ignored.

"Have you ever noticed... our caps... they have skulls on them..."
"Hans... are we the baddies?"
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Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Cromwellia » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:56 am

Salandriagado wrote:2) Monarchies are, on average, more democratic than democracies.


:blink:

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Postby Kirrig » Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:59 am

Cromwellia wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:2) Monarchies are, on average, more democratic than democracies.


:blink:


It's true. The Economist good as said so.
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Kirrig, since you seem to be unable to take hints, allow me make it explicitly clear - you are being ignored.

"Have you ever noticed... our caps... they have skulls on them..."
"Hans... are we the baddies?"
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Kirrig wrote:Do you guys know if George Bush is on NSG?
Wouldn't surprise me.

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Postby Tagmatium » Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:02 am

Kirrig wrote:
Cromwellia wrote: :blink:

It's true. The Economist good as said so.

Maybe you could poke people over to the Republican thread, rather than discussing it here?

It'd breath some new life into it.
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