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Postby Bales Rant » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:34 pm

Keronians wrote:
Bales Rant wrote:@Aly

I was really wrong regarding interest:

"The interest rate on student loans will remain at zero until graduates earn £21,000 – when they will be charged three per cent, plus inflation. If debts are not repaid after 30 years, they will be wiped out." (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/un ... -mean.html)

And 'Student debt nears £60,000 for 2012 university freshers, survey predicts'.

I foresee a shit load of debts being wiped out by the government and the current set up just not being sustainable in the medium term. It's not only unfair and nasty it's fucking daft as well.


3% PLUS inflation?

So, what, something like 6-8%?


Makes sense to me but I'm not great with figures. Well, certain figures but not sure.
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Postby Keronians » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:36 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Keronians wrote:
So you're not doing university?

Why? If the Bachelor is becoming (or, should I say, has become) the High School Diploma / the GCE / whatever, then what use is it to be less qualified than the vast majority of people?

A combination of being thick (C in Government and Politics, D in History and English A levels lul) laziness in not doing any of the UCAS stuff and not being a very good all round person in that I never did extra curricular activities of anything (aside from Yu-Gi-Oh but I don't think that counts), never had a job and I have absolutely no idea what I want to actually do for the rest of my life. Nothing out there motivates me or grabs my attention enough to think, 'Yeah, I'll do that'. I just kind of blurred through college.

This is looking pretty bloggy >.> Must stick to the june deadline <.<


CDD?

That isn't too bad. Pretty sure there are universities out there who'd be glad to accept that.

Anyway, the choice is yours (because, in the end, the debt will be yours too :p ), but I would recommend doing university after you've gotten a sense of purpose.

I shift around in terms of what I want to do as well. Two years ago, I was interested in engineering. Now, I'm looking towards econ.

I'm not a very all-round person either, but I'm hoping my grades will make up for that.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:36 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Fionnuala_Saoirse wrote:
I wouldn't be so sure

You are Scottish right?

ouch ):

Actually I think we die around the same time since Luton has similar life expectancy to Scotland.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... lth-mapped


Its quite sad to see us poor Lutonians as a small red blip surrounded by longer living green :<
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:40 pm

Keronians wrote:
CDD?

That isn't too bad. Pretty sure there are universities out there who'd be glad to accept that.

Anyway, the choice is yours (because, in the end, the debt will be yours too :p ), but I would recommend doing university after you've gotten a sense of purpose.

I shift around in terms of what I want to do as well. Two years ago, I was interested in engineering. Now, I'm looking towards econ.

I'm not a very all-round person either, but I'm hoping my grades will make up for that.

I personally can see myself going back to College and doing Brick laying or some kind of trade. Hopefully by then someone will have ripped up the NVQ stuff so I can get a nice City and Guilds qualification :p

Also, when in Sixth Form, they used to march poor ex uni students 'living the dream' as a shop worker with nothing else to do to tell us about how 'Unis in the UK don;t want robots.' It was pretty funny because suddenly all the students started signing up for essentially any and all extra curricular stuff the Sixth Form did...
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Postby Johz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:46 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Alyakia wrote:ouch ):

Actually I think we die around the same time since Luton has similar life expectancy to Scotland.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... lth-mapped


Its quite sad to see us poor Lutonians as a small red blip surrounded by longer living green :<

Intriguingly, the English eat more haggis than the Scottish. According to the BBC news website, I learned this last week. I can assure you that I didn't, I learned it this morning, but you don't want to argue with the BBC, do you?

Genuine proof.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:49 pm

Johz wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:Actually I think we die around the same time since Luton has similar life expectancy to Scotland.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog ... lth-mapped


Its quite sad to see us poor Lutonians as a small red blip surrounded by longer living green :<

Intriguingly, the English eat more haggis than the Scottish. According to the BBC news website, I learned this last week. I can assure you that I didn't, I learned it this morning, but you don't want to argue with the BBC, do you?

Genuine proof.

My parents have eaten it a few times and like it. I think its disgusting. I think the first time they just wanted to see whether it actually was a kind of unique animal the Scottish hunted or not.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:59 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:My parents have eaten it a few times and like it. I think its disgusting. I think the first time they just wanted to see whether it actually was a kind of unique animal the Scottish hunted or not.

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Postby Johz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:05 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Johz wrote:Intriguingly, the English eat more haggis than the Scottish. According to the BBC news website, I learned this last week. I can assure you that I didn't, I learned it this morning, but you don't want to argue with the BBC, do you?

Genuine proof.

My parents have eaten it a few times and like it. I think its disgusting. I think the first time they just wanted to see whether it actually was a kind of unique animal the Scottish hunted or not.

"You'll have had your tea then, Hamish."
"Aye, we were hunting haggis for our supper, Dougal..."

I can only apologise.
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:19 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:It my Birthday BTW on 6th February. I expect cards >.>

Mine's tomorrow, so if you can get me one, I'll get you one.
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Postby Johz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:22 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:It my Birthday BTW on 6th February. I expect cards >.>

Mine's tomorrow, so if you can get me one, I'll get you one.

Oooh! Happy birthday! Hope you get what you wanted, unless you didn't want anything, in which case I hope you enjoy it anyway!
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Postby Tagmatium » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:28 pm

Johz wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Mine's tomorrow, so if you can get me one, I'll get you one.

Oooh! Happy birthday! Hope you get what you wanted, unless you didn't want anything, in which case I hope you enjoy it anyway!

Thanks :P

I'm long past the age of Lego, so I never know what I want these days.

I'd get some Lego anyway, but it's all Harry Potter or Stars Wars or some other shit these days.

What happened to the Lego knights!?
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Postby Johz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:31 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
Johz wrote:Oooh! Happy birthday! Hope you get what you wanted, unless you didn't want anything, in which case I hope you enjoy it anyway!

Thanks :P

I'm long past the age of Lego, so I never know what I want these days.

I'd get some Lego anyway, but it's all Harry Potter or Stars Wars or some other shit these days.

What happened to the Lego knights!?

Oh I love Lego. My godmother had a load of the proper old lego spacemen and things. There's nothing quite like it for just messing around for an hour or two. I just wish people would get me stuff these days.
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Postby The Matthew Islands » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:31 pm

Tagmatium wrote:
The Matthew Islands wrote:It my Birthday BTW on 6th February. I expect cards >.>

Mine's tomorrow, so if you can get me one, I'll get you one.

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Postby The Matthew Islands » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:33 pm

Johz wrote:
Tagmatium wrote:Thanks :P

I'm long past the age of Lego, so I never know what I want these days.

I'd get some Lego anyway, but it's all Harry Potter or Stars Wars or some other shit these days.

What happened to the Lego knights!?

Oh I love Lego. My godmother had a load of the proper old lego spacemen and things. There's nothing quite like it for just messing around for an hour or two. I just wish people would get me stuff these days.

I got a Clone tank, an ARC-170 fighter and load of other star wars lego, which is undoubtedly the best Lego. Its just a shame its almost criminally expensive.

For this Birthday I got a cheap guitar from Argos. I've never played and know fuck all about music, but I intend to try.
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Postby Keronians » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:11 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Keronians wrote:
CDD?

That isn't too bad. Pretty sure there are universities out there who'd be glad to accept that.

Anyway, the choice is yours (because, in the end, the debt will be yours too :p ), but I would recommend doing university after you've gotten a sense of purpose.

I shift around in terms of what I want to do as well. Two years ago, I was interested in engineering. Now, I'm looking towards econ.

I'm not a very all-round person either, but I'm hoping my grades will make up for that.

I personally can see myself going back to College and doing Brick laying or some kind of trade. Hopefully by then someone will have ripped up the NVQ stuff so I can get a nice City and Guilds qualification :p

Also, when in Sixth Form, they used to march poor ex uni students 'living the dream' as a shop worker with nothing else to do to tell us about how 'Unis in the UK don;t want robots.' It was pretty funny because suddenly all the students started signing up for essentially any and all extra curricular stuff the Sixth Form did...


Yes, that's something I've been doing too... :blink:

Year 11 = No activities
Year 12 = ZOMG WHERE CAN I FIND SOME CUUL EXTRACURRICULARS!
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Postby Marcurix » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:26 am

The Matthew Islands wrote:
Haydn wrote:If the monarchy haters would get their way and Britain would change to a republic, we wouldn't say 'the UK' any more. We would say 'URESWNI'. That stands for 'United Republic of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.' Now that's a bit too long.

Or, Britain. The Republic of Britain and Northern Ireland which is shorter than The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.


Are you mad? We didn't go out an conquer a quarter of the world to be known as Britain and Northern Ireland! It's The Republic of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, thank you very much.

Though in all seriousness The Republic of Great Britain and Northern Ireland would probably be the name, given we like to be geographical for some reason.

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Keronians wrote:
So you're not doing university?

Why? If the Bachelor is becoming (or, should I say, has become) the High School Diploma / the GCE / whatever, then what use is it to be less qualified than the vast majority of people?

A combination of being thick (C in Government and Politics, D in History and English A levels lul) laziness in not doing any of the UCAS stuff and not being a very good all round person in that I never did extra curricular activities of anything (aside from Yu-Gi-Oh but I don't think that counts), never had a job and I have absolutely no idea what I want to actually do for the rest of my life. Nothing out there motivates me or grabs my attention enough to think, 'Yeah, I'll do that'. I just kind of blurred through college.

This is looking pretty bloggy >.> Must stick to the june deadline <.<


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Postby Armand2REP » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:49 pm

Blow for Britain as France wins Indian jet order

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... tract.html

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Postby Horsefish » Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:37 pm

Keronians wrote:Yes, that's something I've been doing too... :blink:

Year 11 = No activities
Year 12 = ZOMG WHERE CAN I FIND SOME CUUL EXTRACURRICULARS!


My list of extra-curricular activites-Rugby.

I now have offers from 4 unis and the other one hasn't got back to me yet :P
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Postby Keronians » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:20 pm

Horsefish wrote:
Keronians wrote:Yes, that's something I've been doing too... :blink:

Year 11 = No activities
Year 12 = ZOMG WHERE CAN I FIND SOME CUUL EXTRACURRICULARS!


My list of extra-curricular activites-Rugby.

I now have offers from 4 unis and the other one hasn't got back to me yet :P


Nice.

I'm still trying to figure out how to explain to my parents that Oxbridge is a pipe dream and applying to one of them is a waste of a precious application.

A guy in Year 13, who has a predicted A*A*A*A got rejected at Cambridge! Apparently, his interview didn't go too well.
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Postby Xaruud » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:24 pm

Keronians wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to explain to my parents that Oxbridge is a pipe dream and applying to one of them is a waste of a precious application.

"Piss off, I'm not going there".

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Postby Keronians » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:51 pm

Xaruud wrote:
Keronians wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how to explain to my parents that Oxbridge is a pipe dream and applying to one of them is a waste of a precious application.

"Piss off, I'm not going there".


:lol:
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Postby Alyakia » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:22 am

woah guys it's gay time

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/02/01/sc ... -marriage/

eh this is call i can find atm but it was in the metro so i should have a better source soon and i assume it's true

then again, isn't the metro owned by the daily mail? fuck.

but yes

leaders of all parties that actually have a seat support it. apparently 61% support and 19% oppose according to a p. big survey. looking pretty good.

since this is the UK thread, i'm not sure about england & wales. think they're still having a ~*consultation*~

is it that other guys birthday yet or did i miss it. happy birthday guy. i'm not going to scroll up and find your name.

this is a good post

sorry i can't find it in my heart to be too concerned about the indians future killing people with french shit instead of british shit
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Postby Horsefish » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:25 am

Keronians wrote:A guy in Year 13, who has a predicted A*A*A*A got rejected at Cambridge! Apparently, his interview didn't go too well.


Same thing for a few mates of mine. Someone is predicted A*'s in everything along with all the extra-ciricular activites but didn't do well enough in her BMat. It's a shame for Oxford too, she would've ticked some kind of quota somewhere :P

Though I have just worked out I'm going to need to earn around £5,000 a year whilst at uni to cover livng expenses (I might just not eat)
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Geniasis wrote:Maybe if you showered every now and then...

That's what the Nazis said, we're not falling for that one again.

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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:30 am

Horsefish wrote:
Keronians wrote:A guy in Year 13, who has a predicted A*A*A*A got rejected at Cambridge! Apparently, his interview didn't go too well.


Same thing for a few mates of mine. Someone is predicted A*'s in everything along with all the extra-ciricular activites but didn't do well enough in her BMat. It's a shame for Oxford too, she would've ticked some kind of quota somewhere :P

Though I have just worked out I'm going to need to earn around £5,000 a year whilst at uni to cover livng expenses (I might just not eat)

This is why you should attempt to educate yourself in the north of England. Everything is cheap. You do not need to rely on the Bank of Mum and Dad when you piss your first ever student loan installment away on cider, because your rent is so easily covered that you're basically golden.
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Postby Yootwopia » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:31 am

Also your student loan is nothing more than a tax, and if you don't understand that then you're too stupid for Higher Education and should give up now instead of devaluing everyone's degrees and wasting your time.
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