What do you think of Ron Paul?

[Cheyanne Alliance]

I like the idea of term limits for Congress and I do think we need to be kess of a warmonger. Other than that, I hate him.

Not a fan of term limits for any position. However I would support Time limits in government from local government to the Presidency. I usually agree with him on social policies and absolutely agree we need to be less of a warmonger. I am absolutely for him in regards to civil liberties. I love the guy.

[Meowfoundland]

A little crazy, a little misguided, and I don't agree with about 90% of the things he says.

[New England and The Maritimes]

He's a leprechaun farmer who's a gambler.

[Kazomal]

He came out against war/"overreaction" with Iran and all the grandstanding on the subject, so he gained points with me for that one.

[Farnhamia]

I like the idea of term limits for Congress and I do think we need to be kess of a warmonger. Other than that, I hate him.

Not a fan of term limits for any position. However I would support Time limits in government from local government to the Presidency. I usually agree with him on social policies and absolutely agree we need to be less of a warmonger. I am absolutely for him in regards to civil liberties. I love the guy.

Really? He'd be perfectly happy to let your state strip you of your civil liberties if the legislature felt like it, with no recourse to the Federal courts to get them back. Wiki sayeth that the act "... forbids all federal courts from hearing cases on abortion, same-sex unions, sexual practices, and establishment of religion, unless such a case were a challenge to the Constitutionality of federal law. Makes federal court decisions on those subjects nonbinding as precedent in state courts, and forbids federal courts from spending money to enforce their judgments." Nice, huh?

[Revolutopia]

Not a fan of term limits for any position. However I would support Time limits in government from local government to the Presidency. I usually agree with him on social policies and absolutely agree we need to be less of a warmonger. I am absolutely for him in regards to civil liberties. I love the guy.

Really? He'd be perfectly happy to let your state strip you of your civil liberties if the legislature felt like it, with no recourse to the Federal courts to get them back. Wiki sayeth that the act "... forbids all federal courts from hearing cases on abortion, same-sex unions, sexual practices, and establishment of religion, unless such a case were a challenge to the Constitutionality of federal law. Makes federal court decisions on those subjects nonbinding as precedent in state courts, and forbids federal courts from spending money to enforce their judgments." Nice, huh?

That is not completely true, he fully supportive of the States being forbidden from stripping individual's civil liberties if the issue is one favored by the Conservative movement, thus it is only civil rights supported by the Left that Ron Paul believes are unworthy of respect.

[Farnhamia]

Really? He'd be perfectly happy to let your state strip you of your civil liberties if the legislature felt like it, with no recourse to the Federal courts to get them back. Wiki sayeth that the act "... forbids all federal courts from hearing cases on abortion, same-sex unions, sexual practices, and establishment of religion, unless such a case were a challenge to the Constitutionality of federal law. Makes federal court decisions on those subjects nonbinding as precedent in state courts, and forbids federal courts from spending money to enforce their judgments." Nice, huh?

That is not completely true, he fully supportive of the States being forbidden from stripping individual's civil liberties if the issue is one favored by the Conservative movement, thus it is only civil rights supported by the Left that Ron Paul believes are unworthy of respect.

I beg your pardon. That is quite true.

[Maineiacs]

Really? He'd be perfectly happy to let your state strip you of your civil liberties if the legislature felt like it, with no recourse to the Federal courts to get them back. Wiki sayeth that the act "... forbids all federal courts from hearing cases on abortion, same-sex unions, sexual practices, and establishment of religion, unless such a case were a challenge to the Constitutionality of federal law. Makes federal court decisions on those subjects nonbinding as precedent in state courts, and forbids federal courts from spending money to enforce their judgments." Nice, huh?

That is not completely true, he fully supportive of the States being forbidden from stripping individual's civil liberties if the issue is one favored by the Conservative movement, thus it is only civil rights supported by the Left that Ron Paul believes are unworthy of respect.

"Civil rights for those who I agree with" is why he'll never have my vote.

[Free Soviets]

Keynesian economics ignores common sense and any understanding of how an economy works. Social engineering just doesn't work. I'm constantly astounded at how many people that are left that still believe in this nonsense.

i'm constantly astounded by the fact that people can make these completely anti-factual declarations. like, what?


anyways, did you guys see nate silver's model forecast of iowa?

pie fight, pie fight!

feel the paulmentum!

[Free Soviets]

ooh, guess what? it turns out that ron paul made millions off his racist conspiracy newsletter that he had absolutely nothing to do with.

Yet a subsequent report by Reason found that Ron Paul & Associates, the defunct company that published the newsletters and which counted Paul and his wife as officers, reported an income of nearly $1 million in 1993 alone. If this figure is reliable, Paul must have earned multiple millions of dollars over the two decades plus of the newsletters’ existence. It is incredible that he had less than an active interest in what was being printed as part of a subscription newsletter enterprise that earned him and his family millions of dollars. Ed Crane, the president of the Cato Institute, said Paul told him that “his best source of congressional campaign donations was the mailing list for the Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto.”

but he's very principled and consistent!

[Moral Libertarians]

If anything, libertarianism is having a revival. More and more Americans are embracing the message of freedom, as they grow tired of statists like you. Sorry, but people are sick of the failing Keynesian economic policies.

Keynesian economics ignores common sense and any understanding of how an economy works. Social engineering just doesn't work. I'm constantly astounded at how many people that are left that still believe in this nonsense.

Quite right.

[Wikkiwallana]

If anything, libertarianism is having a revival. More and more Americans are embracing the message of freedom, as they grow tired of statists like you. Sorry, but people are sick of the failing Keynesian economic policies.

Keynesian economics ignores common sense and any understanding of how an economy works. Social engineering just doesn't work. I'm constantly astounded at how many people that are left that still believe in this nonsense.

Quite right.

Then explain why they are getting less than 1% of the vote.

[Farnhamia]

Quite right.

Then explain why they are getting less than 1% of the vote.

Why, it's the Liberal Media. Come on, you know that. My ten-year-old niece knows that.

[Wikkiwallana]

Then explain why they are getting less than 1% of the vote.

Why, it's the Liberal Media. Come on, you know that. My ten-year-old niece knows that.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that on election days news casters go out and lock people in their homes until the polls are closed. How does that keep slipping my mind?

[New England and The Maritimes]

Why, it's the Liberal Media. Come on, you know that. My ten-year-old niece knows that.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that on election days news casters go out and lock people in their homes until the polls are closed. How does that keep slipping my mind?

Hey they register dead people and get them into the voting booth and cast 5 ballots per name without being stopped or even suspected until FOX News reveals the sham! Obviously the billions of false votes getting through are clouding the results, truly that 1% is actually... 100%!

[Farnhamia]

Why, it's the Liberal Media. Come on, you know that. My ten-year-old niece knows that.

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that on election days news casters go out and lock people in their homes until the polls are closed. How does that keep slipping my mind?

It's the fluoride in your water.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that on election days news casters go out and lock people in their homes until the polls are closed. How does that keep slipping my mind?

It's the fluoride in your water.

The chem trails are clouding his mind! True libertarians know to hide under their beds at all times, so the Federal Reserve Agents don't see them through the windows.

[Fellrike]

Ron Paul can never get the nomination. Those who love his domestic policy, hate his foreign policy, and vice versa.

[Anti Neo Nazis]

I like his general ideas about liberty and limited government and personal responsibility, but many of his policies are ridiculously outdated. He's an ideological libertarian who does not recognize that liberty often has a cost. Liberty is always a good thing, but if the cost of increasing it is too high to bear no 18th century essay by some French bastard will convince me its the right thing to do. Also he seems to be content with letting states decide which particular freedoms they want to suppress, which doesn't bode well for those who just happen to live in ass backwards states with ass backwards legislatures.

His economic policy is alright. The gold standard idea is laughable but I'm all for low taxes and reducing the deficit. Its not like he'd ever succeed in abolishing the fed anyway. And despite my capitalist leaning I recognize that the government must play a small role in any functioning economy.

His foriegn policy is a mess, based off ideas that were conceived before nuclear weapons, before air travel even. The world is interconnected, and things happen at a ridiculously fast pace. Retreating within its own borders is not a viable option for a country as large and powerful as America is. It has to recognize its role in the world and while it shouldn't be world police, it must accept that it has certain obligations to itself and its allies.




As for his chances of winning I think their slim. His recent rises in the polls are probably a result of his passionate fan base starting to believe he has a legitimate shot. That and the fact that Newt is slipping. Hell Newt already slipped. He may win Iowa, but he'll never broaden his support to the levels needed to win the nomination. The establishment, especially the neo-cons hate him. New poll out today from CNN said that almost half of all Republicans wouldn't support Paul under any circumstances. That isn't good. He has room to improve, but he's limited in how far he can rise like no other candidate (except probably Bachmann). He may squeak out a victory in Iowa, simply because the social conservatives can't agree on their Anti-Romney, but his support is limited from there. Barring a miracle, Romney probably has the nomination in the bag. I'm still holding out hope for Huntsman, but it would take divine intervention for him to win NH.

[Kuwat]

He won't be president he actually speaks the truth that's why some people hate him, that's why I would like him as president

[The Black Forrest]

ooh, guess what? it turns out that ron paul made millions off his racist conspiracy newsletter that he had absolutely nothing to do with.

Yet a subsequent report by Reason found that Ron Paul & Associates, the defunct company that published the newsletters and which counted Paul and his wife as officers, reported an income of nearly $1 million in 1993 alone. If this figure is reliable, Paul must have earned multiple millions of dollars over the two decades plus of the newsletters’ existence. It is incredible that he had less than an active interest in what was being printed as part of a subscription newsletter enterprise that earned him and his family millions of dollars. Ed Crane, the president of the Cato Institute, said Paul told him that “his best source of congressional campaign donations was the mailing list for the Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto.”

but he's very principled and consistent!

Holy......

Damn. That really knocked him down a few pegs. Wonder what the paulbots will say about the article......

[Straughn]

ooh, guess what? it turns out that ron paul made millions off his racist conspiracy newsletter that he had absolutely nothing to do with.


but he's very principled and consistent!

Holy......

Damn. That really knocked him down a few pegs. Wonder what the paulbots will say about the article......

The one i know will get back to me shortly.

[Milks Empire]

Holy......

Damn. That really knocked him down a few pegs. Wonder what the paulbots will say about the article......

The one i know will get back to me shortly.

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Use this for when he gets back to you. You'll probably need it.

[Odins Scandinavia]

Ron Paul can never get the nomination. Those who love his domestic policy, hate his foreign policy, and vice versa.

orly? i love both.

ooh, guess what? it turns out that ron paul made millions off his racist conspiracy newsletter that he had absolutely nothing to do with.


but he's very principled and consistent!

Holy......

Damn. That really knocked him down a few pegs. Wonder what the paulbots will say about the article......

the newsletter he had nothing to do with.

[Wanderjar]

Mixed feelings. I did vote for him in the last primaries (and for Obama in the general election), I tend to think that most of his foreign policy feelings are valid, some of his economic philosophical points are misguided. I'm a devout free marketer, the keynesian simply leads to economic meltdown. At the same time however, the gold standard is a horribly inefficient solution, as is his free-banking ideal. I intensely dislike the Federal Reserve in it's current form, but central control of the money supply is necessary, simply from the standpoint of economic regularity.