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by The lepearchauns » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:27 pm

by Maurepas » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:28 pm

by Dracoria » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:28 pm

by The lepearchauns » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:30 pm


by The lepearchauns » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:33 pm

by Dracoria » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:33 pm
The lepearchauns wrote:I dont mind Nixon either...he was just a paranoind and terrible person

by Ruridova » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:33 pm
), Roosevelt(Teddy)(Panama canal, San Juan Hill, trustbusting), Wilson(WWI, League of Nations, anti-Versailles treaty), Roosevelt(Franklin)(Great depression, WW2), Truman(WW2, UN), JFK(handling the Cuban Crisis), Reagan(ending the Cold War peacefully).
by Revolutopia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:35 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Revolutopia wrote:Best
1.Abraham Lincoln
2.Franklin Delano Roosevelt
3.George Washington
4.Theodore Roosevelt
5.Harry S. Truman
Worst
1.James Buchanan
2.William Harding
3.Franklin Pierce
4.Andrew Johnson
5.Ulysses S. Grant
Oh, Grant? Really?
He had some good policies. Just... Terrible, terrible judgement!

by The lepearchauns » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:36 pm


by Wazkyraque » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:36 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:39 pm
Revolutopia wrote:Yes, I agree that as a man he was great, both in military matters and he was pretty open minded for his time. By actually, being one of the few president during the 19th century willing to look out for civil rights for both Blacks and Native Americans in some degree. The problem arises that he was far out of his depth as president and thus foolishly relied on too much corrupt figures thus hampering his effectiveness and ranking.
Thus, why out of a ranking of the president(minus WhHarrison and Garfield for shortness and GWBush and Obama for lack of time since presidency) I rank him
34 out of 39. Particularly, because the other two that might have taken his spot would have been either Hoover and Carter, both who I find faulted to much for a raw deal that they inherited and accomplishments ignored.

by Ruridova » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:40 pm
The lepearchauns wrote:^^^ GW didnt just screw us...he screwed the world. Thanks Texas

by Tmutarakhan » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:42 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:JFK only gets a free pass because he was killed. Look at the man's policy and you see nothing but populism and mediocrity. Plus, he almost started WW3 (Thank God for Khrushchev)

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:44 pm
Tmutarakhan wrote:Uh, Khrushchev almost started WW3 (thank God for JFK), twice actually (the Berlin Wall was intended to force a confrontation, but JFK decided to respond only verbally).

by Revolutopia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:46 pm
The lepearchauns wrote:^^^ GW didnt just screw us...he screwed the world. Thanks Texas

by The lepearchauns » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:49 pm

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:53 pm

by Revolutopia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:54 pm
The lepearchauns wrote:I fully agree. And at the end of Obamas 1st term, you can actually start to remember the begining of Bushs presidency. He handled 9/11 very well and brought the nation together. He was a top 10 contender at that point...then it was all downhill from there

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:55 pm
Maurepas wrote:But I'm not thirty years old yet,

by Revolutopia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:57 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Thirty years is my rule of thumb for judging presidents.

by Dracoria » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:00 pm

by Kuwat » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:07 pm

by High Vasa » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:11 pm
The UK in Exile wrote:Regarding James Buchanan, after the south seceding, he was no longer president, he had no authority to fix the union.

by Revolutopia » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:12 pm
Dracoria wrote:Revolutopia wrote:
While, that might be one of the best approaches I think you can get a hint of a president's legacy by seeing how they and their decisions influenced or affected the president following them.
Wow. In that case, Bush is either really great or really awful, judging by how much Obama's followed him in economic decisions.
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