economic freedom or personal freedom?

[Great Nepal]

If you had to chose a society that had maximum economic freedom or maximum personal freedom which would you chose? (They're mutually exclusive - you don't get to cheat by saying that one begets the other.)

Nah... their mutually inclusive. Strip one away entirely and you strip away the other as well.

For example, if we strip away personal freedoms like drug use, you are also regulating that they are not used in the market, thus you have also taken away the economic freedom of drug exchange.

No, you have right to buy drugs but you dont have right to use them.

@OP: Economic freedom. I could at least buy weapons and raise an army to overthrow the government and install my own government...

[The USOT]

If you had to chose a society that had maximum economic freedom or maximum personal freedom which would you chose? (They're mutually exclusive - you don't get to cheat by saying that one begets the other.)

Personally I would choose more personal freedoms. Seems to me like they are the actual freedoms.

[Distruzio]

If you had to chose a society that had maximum economic freedom or maximum personal freedom which would you chose? (They're mutually exclusive - you don't get to cheat by saying that one begets the other.)

Economic Freedom trumps all.

/doesn't really understand what you are asking.... doesn't think you do either.

[Free Pangea]

I personally like to have very high personal freedoms and very low economic freedoms (that's pretty much how my NSG utopia is set up).

[Ha Shi Ma]

I would choose a state which allows unlimited personal freedom, because we can achieve everything, including our own economic freedom, through unlimited personal freedom.

[Meowfoundland]

Personal, I think. I'd rather do and say what I'd like than have the chance to become filthy rich.

[Rivenwood]

maximum personal freedom

If this doesn't lead to Randian/Sadist circumstances, I'd welcome this.

[Meridiani Planum]

I value the maximization of both equally. I can't choose just one.

[Tekcirb]

Personal Freedom is more important but you need both.

[-l00k up-]

economic freedoms has created an unequal world driven by greed and hate. personal freedoms are necessary to counter these forces and allow people to do acts of love and kindness. I would definitely choose personal freedoms

[Kemaliste]

People can not be free with a economic dependence.

[Great Nepal]

Personal Freedom is more important but you need both.

Except that you can take personal freedom via coup if you have economic freedom; it doesn't work the other way around.

[Sociobiology]

If you had to chose a society that had maximum economic freedom or maximum personal freedom which would you chose? (They're mutually exclusive - you don't get to cheat by saying that one begets the other.)

Economic Freedom trumps all.

/doesn't really understand what you are asking.... doesn't think you do either.

congratulations, you have just been purchased by Omnicorp Labor Providers, rejoice as you spend the rest of your life dong backbreaking manual labor for your new owners, you are free to purchase your own freedom, however as we do offer wages to our property good luck finding the money!

[Great Nepal]

Economic Freedom trumps all.

/doesn't really understand what you are asking.... doesn't think you do either.

congratulations, you have just been purchased by Omnicorp Labor Providers, rejoice as you spend the rest of your life dong backbreaking manual labor for your new owners, you are free to purchase your own freedom, however as we do offer wages to our property good luck finding the money!

congratulations, using my economic freedom of purchase; I bought few tanks and bombers with its crew - they shall soon be arriving in Omnicorp Labor Provider's HQ.

[Pope Joan]

If we declare that the fiction of corporations being people no longer applies, then I choose economic freedom.

Otherwise, forget that. The corporate wolves would eat us up. In the name of "free enterprise".

[Sociobiology]

congratulations, you have just been purchased by Omnicorp Labor Providers, rejoice as you spend the rest of your life dong backbreaking manual labor for your new owners, you are free to purchase your own freedom, however as we do offer wages to our property good luck finding the money!

congratulations, using my economic freedom of purchase; I bought few tanks and bombers with its crew - they shall soon be arriving in Omnicorp Labor Provider's HQ.

with what money?

[Great Nepal]

congratulations, using my economic freedom of purchase; I bought few tanks and bombers with its crew - they shall soon be arriving in Omnicorp Labor Provider's HQ.

with what money?

With liquid and illiquid assets.

See, as long as you have some amount of assets - you can overthrow government easily. Just buy most of the army and do a military coup.

[Cameroi]

its not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy. read my sig.

[Sociobiology]

with what money?

With liquid and illiquid assets.

See, as long as you have some amount of assets - you can overthrow government easily. Just buy most of the army and do a military coup.

what government?

and you have more assets then a company that regularly buys people?
I was not aware $40 outbids $1,000,000

[Great Nepal]

With liquid and illiquid assets.

See, as long as you have some amount of assets - you can overthrow government easily. Just buy most of the army and do a military coup.

what government?

Government that will restrict personal freedom? Parliament who passed the law?

and you have more assets then a company that regularly buys people?
I was not aware $40 outbids $1,000,000

No, but company isn't going to buy all the tanks and bombers in the world. There are going to be some left - which can be purchased to bomb company's HQ. Sure, they wont survive for next day, but who cares - that company will be destroyed.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Political freedom and personal yes, but economic freedom, for whom?

[Fort Locria]

Personal. I don't agree that there's a whole lot of freedom in what the phrase "economic freedom" usually refers to.

[Distruzio]

Economic Freedom trumps all.

/doesn't really understand what you are asking.... doesn't think you do either.

congratulations, you have just been purchased by Omnicorp Labor Providers, rejoice as you spend the rest of your life dong backbreaking manual labor for your new owners, you are free to purchase your own freedom, however as we do offer wages to our property good luck finding the money!

From whom would they purchase me? In order to buy me, as you presume is an obvious fact of economic freedom, I would have had to have been owned by someone else, first. Since I am not owned by anyone, and slavery is repudiated by even economic considerations, your "critique" stands rather flaccid.

[Trotskylvania]

congratulations, you have just been purchased by Omnicorp Labor Providers, rejoice as you spend the rest of your life dong backbreaking manual labor for your new owners, you are free to purchase your own freedom, however as we do offer wages to our property good luck finding the money!

From whom would they purchase me? In order to buy me, as you presume is an obvious fact of economic freedom, I would have had to have been owned by someone else, first. Since I am not owned by anyone, and slavery is repudiated by even economic considerations, your "critique" stands rather flaccid.

This is of little comfort to those who had no other choice but to sell their soul to the company store

[Distruzio]

From whom would they purchase me? In order to buy me, as you presume is an obvious fact of economic freedom, I would have had to have been owned by someone else, first. Since I am not owned by anyone, and slavery is repudiated by even economic considerations, your "critique" stands rather flaccid.

This is of little comfort to those who had no other choice but to sell their soul to the company store

Where is this a fact, Trots, where economic liberty is more respected than not?