For economy fix, Americans pick Reagan over Roosevelt

[The Black Forrest]

Because Reagan wasn't a person who advicated the government's right to trample on the Constitution like FDR

And yet another thing you need to back up. How did FDR want to trample on the Constitution?

Errrr? Fox News said so?

I am curious to an answer as well.

[Anitgrum]

Not to mention that the Nazi's nuclear program was only a month behind ours and if they had no been pressured by the invasion of Normandy to stop the program, then WWII would've definately been changed. It may have been FDR that started war with Japan, but it was President Trueman who ended the bloos shed in the pacific and saved millions of lives on both sides

Eh. That's only partially true. Iwo Jima was an example of how easily we could defeat the Japanese Imperials. They were so low on ammunition and so isolated that they had to switch to the desperate tactics of burying themselves in the mountain and hope to ambush American forces in a suicide-attack. In truth, Truman saved soldiers' lives, but in the longer term, our country now has the civilian bloodstains of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to deal with forever. A big blockade and they would have been starved into submission. Worst case, the Russians would have handled it for us; they were still pissed about the Russo-Japanese War...still are, actually.

The U.S did blockade Japan that is why the Philippines were invaded to cut them off from their oil supply in Indonesia. In addition the USN employed the same wolf-pack tactics that Germany used against Britain. But unlike Germany the U.S was able to sink Japanese merchant ships faster than they could be replaced.

[Euronion]

So there truly are intelligent people on this site.
Reagan shall always be better then Roosevelt!!

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

[Wikkiwallana]

So there truly are intelligent people on this site.
Reagan shall always be better then Roosevelt!!

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

I'm still waiting on that definition of Socialism and an explanation of how FDR fits.

[Kaizerxisiv]

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

I'm still waiting on that definition of Socialism and an explanation of how FDR fits.

Don't hold your breath, that guy [better?] doesn't even recognize that Nixon is the one who ended the Gold Standard.

[The Black Forrest]

So there truly are intelligent people on this site.
Reagan shall always be better then Roosevelt!!

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

That's a fine non-sequitur but it doesn't answer the question of how FDR trampled all over the Constitution.

Well would it be he rolled all over it?

[Mr Bananagrabber]

So there truly are intelligent people on this site.
Reagan shall always be better then Roosevelt!!

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=148474&hilit=capitalism+vs+communism&view=viewpoll

[Rynatia]

America makes me sad.

This

[The Soviet Technocracy]

Not to mention that the Nazi's nuclear program was only a month behind ours and if they had no been pressured by the invasion of Normandy to stop the program, then WWII would've definately been changed. It may have been FDR that started war with Japan, but it was President Trueman who ended the bloos shed in the pacific and saved millions of lives on both sides

Eh. That's only partially true. Iwo Jima was an example of how easily we could defeat the Japanese Imperials. They were so low on ammunition and so isolated that they had to switch to the desperate tactics of burying themselves in the mountain and hope to ambush American forces in a suicide-attack. In truth, Truman saved soldiers' lives, but in the longer term, our country now has the civilian bloodstains of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to deal with forever. A big blockade and they would have been starved into submission. Worst case, the Russians would have handled it for us; they were still pissed about the Russo-Japanese War...still are, actually.

Two cities is better than the entire country, there is no "but". If the US and USSR had invaded Japan, there would be no such thing as "Japanese".

A blockade and subsequent starvation would lead to much the same result, I'd imagine.

[Revolutopia]

I would edit out the dimwit comment Kaizerxisiv as that will get you in trouble.

[Kaizerxisiv]

So there truly are intelligent people on this site.
Reagan shall always be better then Roosevelt!!

let me count . . . 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Now lets divide that by two million or however many communist and socialist people there are on this site . . . oh dear, we only make up 0.0000035% of the nationstates community, looks like intellectuals are extinct over here, perhaps Max Barry will make another site that hasn;t attracted so many commis

If only 0.0000035% of the NS community doesn't know who FDR is, who Richard Nixon is, what the definition of Socialism is, and what the Gold Standard is, then I say that's a bloody miracle. Uneducated clods like that muck everything up.

[The Black Forrest]

I would edit out the *edit* comment Kaizerxisiv as that will get you in trouble.

Indeed. It can be labeled a flame.

[Lord Tothe]

Both presidents were fascists who were more than willing to take credit for economic success and shift the blame for economic failure. FDR's policies are largely responsible for the Great Depression's duration. Still, I'd prefer that both stay dead.

[Kaizerxisiv]

Both presidents were fascists who were more than willing to take credit for economic success and shift the blame for economic failure. FDR's policies are largely responsible for the Great Depression's duration. Still, I'd prefer that both stay dead.

Poe?

[Wikkiwallana]

Both presidents were fascists who were more than willing to take credit for economic success and shift the blame for economic failure. FDR's policies are largely responsible for the Great Depression's duration. Still, I'd prefer that both stay dead.

And what evidence can you provide to support this extraordinary position?

[Mr Bananagrabber]

Both presidents were fascists who were more than willing to take credit for economic success and shift the blame for economic failure. FDR's policies are largely responsible for the Great Depression's duration. Still, I'd prefer that both stay dead.

How do you figure?

[Newmoonrising]

And yet another thing you need to back up. How did FDR want to trample on the Constitution?

Errrr? Fox News said so?

I am curious to an answer as well.

New Deal Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_P ... ll_of_1937

[Kaizerxisiv]

Errrr? Fox News said so?

I am curious to an answer as well.

New Dealo Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?

It got shot down, but he got to make 8 Appointments through circumstance, anyway. And the country didn't burst into flame when he did it, now did it?

[Revolutopia]

Errrr? Fox News said so?

I am curious to an answer as well.

New Dealo Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?

The Constitution does not directly set aside a certain number of judges in the SC, but allows Congress to set its size thus by suggesting legislative action to increase the court is perfectly within the constitution.

[Occupied Deutschland]

New Dealo Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?

It got shot down, but he got to make 8 Appointments through circumstance, anyway. And the country didn't burst into flame when he did it, now did it?

No, but the size and scope of the American government, and the role it played in its people's lives, WAS substantially increased.
Whether this is unconstitutional depends on how loosely one reads the Constitution.
Hence, Strict Constitutionalists will say it was unconstitutional and have a pretty legit leg to stand on and Loose Constitutionalists will say it was fine and have a pretty legit leg to stand on.

[Wikkiwallana]

Errrr? Fox News said so?

I am curious to an answer as well.

New Dealo Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?

Given that I wasn't alive in the 30's or 40's, could you provide a bit of explanation?

[Anitgrum]

New Dealo Court packing scheme doesn't ring a bell?

Given that I wasn't alive in the 30's or 40's, could you provide a bit of explanation?

The Supreme court decided that one of FDRS new deal initiatives was unconstitutional. So he proposed legislation for him to appointed more friendly judges to the Supreme court.

[Revolutopia]

Given that I wasn't alive in the 30's or 40's, could you provide a bit of explanation?

The Supreme court decided that one of FDRS new deal initiatives was unconstitutional. So he proposed legislation for him to appointed more friendly judges to the Supreme court.

That is constitutional, Congress has the authority to increase the Supreme Court's size and has done it multiple times.link

[Lord Tothe]

Both presidents were fascists who were more than willing to take credit for economic success and shift the blame for economic failure. FDR's policies are largely responsible for the Great Depression's duration. Still, I'd prefer that both stay dead.

How do you figure?

Well, since links to Mises.org will result in reflexive flaming, how's an article from UCLA? http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

For more info in economics and government, read the following for a healthy start:
Beginner: "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt, "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, and "Basic Economics" by Thomas Sowell
Intermediate: "Man, Economy and State" and "What Has Government Done to Our Money?" by Murray Rothbard
Advanced: "Human Action" by Ludwig von Mises

[Anitgrum]

The Supreme court decided that one of FDRS new deal initiatives was unconstitutional. So he proposed legislation for him to appointed more friendly judges to the Supreme court.

That is constitutional, Congress has the authority to increase the Supreme Court's size and has done it multiple times.link

I wasn't arguing that it was or wasn't. I was explaining what happened.