For economy fix, Americans pick Reagan over Roosevelt

[Revolutopia]

Communist? Yeaaaaaa nope!

He didn't goad the Japanese. It was going to happen as there were many incidents between the two navies a couple decades up to the war.

I am trying to remember the book but it documented the cases. Immensely boring to read. Probably why I can't remember the title.

You would have better luck spinning the conspiracy theory he allowed Pearl Harbor to go down to get the US into the war.......

He cut off trade with Japan and started helping the Chinese when Japan invaded. Sending supplies and 'mercenaries' to go help.

Is Japan entitled to our trade and why is he forbidden from selling goods to China?

[Vetalia]

Makes perfect sense to me simply because most people alive today experienced the unrest and malaise of the 1970s, the energy crises, recessions and stagflation and as a result also experienced the huge psychological and economic benefits of the Reagan recovery whereas an ever-dwindling number are old enough to have fully experienced the Depression, the New Deal and Roosevelt's leadership during WWII.

[New Conglomerate]

It's probably because most people alive today experienced 1970's stagflation and the huge psychological and economic benefits of the Reagan recovery, whereas an ever-dwindling number are old enough to have fully experienced the Depression, the New Deal and Roosevelt's leadership during WWII.

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

[Vetalia]

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

No, Reagan was a widely popular president among Americans in general. The reasons I identified are precisely why he has that kind of support. I'm not commenting on the veracity of those sentiments or his policies, but I can definitely see where they're coming from.

[The City of New Vegas]

I am generally Conservative, but I would vote for Roosevelt if his plan was just to join another world war. That's what truly recovered our economy from the Great Depression.

[New Conglomerate]

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

No, Reagan was a widely popular president among Americans in general. The reasons I identified are precisely why he has that kind of support.

Yes... but Truman + Roosevelt in the poll beats out Reagan in support.

[Keronians]

It's probably because most people alive today experienced 1970's stagflation and the huge psychological and economic benefits of the Reagan recovery, whereas an ever-dwindling number are old enough to have fully experienced the Depression, the New Deal and Roosevelt's leadership during WWII.

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

It's wasted on Kennedy, tbh. He was an average President who is remembered fondly due to his (apparent) great leadership in the Cuban Missile Crisis and his assasination.

[Keronians]

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

No, Reagan was a widely popular president among Americans in general. The reasons I identified are precisely why he has that kind of support. I'm not commenting on the veracity of those sentiments or his policies, but I can definitely see where they're coming from.

Oh, I was just about to outline why all of that was false.

[New Conglomerate]

Or because the right throws almost all their money in with Reagan, while the Dems divide it among Roosevelt, Kennedy, and Truman.

It's wasted on Kennedy, tbh. He was an average President who is remembered fondly due to his (apparent) great leadership in the Cuban Missile Crisis and his assasination.

Indeed. The economic policies in a recession would largely be the same among all 4 of them, tbh, since Reagan wasn't really a supply-sider under circumstances as dire as this.

[Vetalia]

Yes... but Truman + Roosevelt in the poll beats out Reagan in support.

Yeah, but the point is who's the most popular individual candidate. Truman's only backed by 8%...Reagan and William Henry Harrison would tie them in support.

[Keronians]

It's wasted on Kennedy, tbh. He was an average President who is remembered fondly due to his (apparent) great leadership in the Cuban Missile Crisis and his assasination.

Indeed. The economic policies in a recession would largely be the same among all 4 of them, tbh, since Reagan wasn't really a supply-sider under circumstances as dire as this.

The only difference is that FDR was the first one to come up with something like the New Deal.

Well, him and his Brains Trust.

[Keronians]

Yes... but Truman + Roosevelt in the poll beats out Reagan in support.

Yeah, but the point is who's the most popular individual candidate. Truman's only backed by 8%...Reagan and William Henry Harrison would tie them in support.

I assume that the reason is that Truman's first term was the result of FDR's death.

Though there are various faults. Especially on foreign policy. It's unlikely that, had FDR stayed alive, relations with the USSR would have deteriorated so rapidly, since, well, Stalin and FDR actually managed to get along.

[New Conglomerate]

Yes... but Truman + Roosevelt in the poll beats out Reagan in support.

Yeah, but the point is who's the most popular individual candidate. Truman's only backed by 8%...Reagan and William Henry Harrison would tie them in support.

I'll concede.

[Vetalia]

I'll concede.

Bear in mind I personally prefer Roosevelt; we need a new New Deal more than ever. Not this tax-cut and extended unemployment benefits crap that simply doesn't work.

[Keronians]

I'll concede.

Bear in mind I personally prefer Roosevelt; we need a new New Deal more than ever. Not this tax-cut and extended unemployment benefits crap that simply doesn't work.

Agreed.

[Acroticus]

Bear in mind I personally prefer Roosevelt; we need a new New Deal more than ever. Not this tax-cut and extended unemployment benefits crap that simply doesn't work.

Agreed.

Roosevelt was a great President, in the top ten no doubt. However, if Roosevelt had the army we have today, he would have tried to conquer the world. American expansionalism and all that, since he did begin the Spanish-American War (not while he was President, bu while he was assistant secretary of the navy, and then he resigned tog go fight in it). When he was defeated, and there is no doubt he would be, he would be seen as another Napolean Ceasar, or Hitler, even.

[Anitgrum]

Agreed.

Roosevelt was a great President, in the top ten no doubt. However, if Roosevelt had the army we have today, he would have tried to conquer the world. American expansionalism and all that, since he did begin the Spanish-American War (not while he was President, bu while he was assistant secretary of the navy, and then he resigned tog go fight in it). When he was defeated, and there is no doubt he would be, he would be seen as another Napolean Ceasar, or Hitler, even.

Your thinking of the other Roosevelt.

[Caninope]

*snip*

>Ignores facts that tax cuts weren't only part of Reagan's plans
>Gives no sources

[Caninope]

Except that there was a boom in Reagan's Presidency. How much of this is attributable to his policies is debatable, but there was.

followed many years later by a massive bust. Your point?

There will always be a bust. But that's where people get their ideas of it's greatness from.

[Brasj]

It's because Ronald exatly helped US economy.

[Brasj]

America makes me sad.

Do you live in America? Did you live in America during both their president-c's?

[Malgrave]

*snip*

>Ignores facts that tax cuts weren't only part of Reagan's plans
>Gives no sources

Why don't you go back and provide a source in the post he responded to?

[Kaizerxisiv]

I am generally Conservative, but I would vote for Roosevelt if his plan was just to join another world war. That's what truly recovered our economy from the Great Depression.

Uhhhh.. Bullshit. The worst of the Depression was over by 1934, 5 years before Germany invaded Poland. Your argument is invalid.

[Free Pangea]

Proud member of the quarter, who would pick Roosevelt.

[Keronians]

And this is why most Americans strike me as such massive dumbasses - no grasp of history. I'd say expecting Reaganomics to fix the economy is more like expecting the most defiant imperialist leaders to voluntarily begin decolonization.

Except that there was a boom in Reagan's Presidency. How much of this is attributable to his policies is debatable, but there was.

There was a boom despite his policies.

It was also based on a bubble. So, irrationality.

The American economy from the '80s until the recent recession followed one bubble after the other.

First Reagan's bubble, then the dot com bubble, then the real estate bubble.