American moving to Australia

[Matt Selou]

I'm politically and economically left as you can see, but I was wondering if there are Americans who have moved to Australia (or vice- versa) and to tell me what you see politically in respect to government, and with political/social respect to the public..

Any ex-pats? I'm from Flint, MI going to Melbourne, Australia...

I'll think of more questions later.. Thanks Nations.

[Tubbsalot]

I'm politically and economically left as you can see

Err, do I? Where exactly do I see that? Do you mean "I'm a leftist, as you can see to the left of these words, where I just said 'I'm a leftist.'"?

Anyway, as a Melburnian, I can assure you that Americans are crazy oil-drinking gunfreaks. You will not fit in at all. If you don't like public transport (or should I say TRAMSport hah hah that's a joke), you will be lynched before the week is out.

[Matt Selou]

Well, by American standards, yeah I'm a leftist, but you've already assumed too much...

I'm ANTI-gun, pro-abortion, single-payer health, pro-transportation (besides the environment, I hate driving!), anti-religion, pro 60's and 70's music, pro-Kubrick, pro Bill Hicks, pro-union (remember I'm from Flint, Michael Moore's hometown), etc etc.

[North Calaveras]

Well, by American standards, yeah I'm a leftist, but you've already assumed too much...

I'm ANTI-gun, pro-abortion, single-payer health, pro-transportation (besides the environment, I hate driving!), anti-religion, pro 60's and 70's music, pro-Kubrick, pro Bill Hicks, pro-union (remember I'm from Flint, Michael Moore's hometown), etc etc.

Please move away from the US

[Matt Selou]

I think marriage as an institution is pretty banal, but if straights can marry, why not the gays?

Why should I move from the US? I'm not arguing, I agree, but why do you say so?

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

I'm politically and economically left as you can see, but I was wondering if there are Americans who have moved to Australia (or vice- versa) and to tell me what you see politically in respect to government, and with political/social respect to the public..

Any ex-pats? I'm from Flint, MI going to Melbourne, Australia...

I'll think of more questions later.. Thanks Nations.

Melbourne hey? Well... The Labor government is hated at the moment by a quite a few, we Victorians have a liberal party in charge and we hate Tasmania, in turn hated by every other state.

[North Calaveras]

I think marriage as an institution is pretty banal, but if straights can marry, why not the gays?

Why should I move from the US? I'm not arguing, I agree, but why do you say so?

I support gay marriage and im far right-wing

Personally, judging from the beliefs you posted I don't think you fit the traditional economic sense of America nor its culture of guns. It sounds like your having a rough time here, so I suggest moving to a leftist nation that suits your beliefs that way you can thrive.

[Wikipedia and Universe]

Well, by American standards, yeah I'm a leftist, but you've already assumed too much...

I'm ANTI-gun, pro-abortion, single-payer health, pro-transportation (besides the environment, I hate driving!), anti-religion, pro 60's and 70's music, pro-Kubrick, pro Bill Hicks, pro-union (remember I'm from Flint, Michael Moore's hometown), etc etc.

Please move away from the US.

I second this. *nods*

[Tubbsalot]

Ridiculous. We know your kind, and we'll keep an eye on you.

Though honestly you sound left even by our standards, so WELCOME TO MELBOURNE. You'll get here just in time for summer, and have the pleasure of experiencing 40+ degree days for weeks at a time (we use metric here you dirty barbarian). Our government is awful, in the tradition of every government ever in history, and every party is incompetent. Apparently Americans are absurdly friendly compared to most people, so there's that too.

On the upside, our trams are second to none.

Please move away from the US

Yeah! Get out of here, everyone who has a different opinion! Yee-haw, I'm shooting guns into the air to indicate belligerence!

[North Calaveras]

Ridiculous. We know your kind, and we'll keep an eye on you.

Though honestly you sound left even by our standards, so WELCOME TO MELBOURNE. You'll get here just in time for summer, and have the pleasure of experiencing 40+ degree days for weeks at a time (we use metric here you dirty barbarian). Our government is awful, in the tradition of every government ever in history, and every party is incompetent. Apparently Americans are absurdly friendly compared to most people, so there's that too.

On the upside, our trams are second to none.

Please move away from the US

Yeah! Get out of here, everyone who has a different opinion! Yee-haw, I'm shooting guns into the air to indicate belligerence!

? not even close tubbs...not even close.

[Matt Selou]

The economy can't be worse in Melbourne, or all of Australia for that matter... I wonder how difficult it is to get a work visa.

And the weather plays a big role, too!

[Tubbsalot]

? not even close tubbs...not even close.

You don't need to exactly conform to local political views to live in a country. You have Stalinists, Nazis and anarchists of every stripe living in the country, and they're all entitled to.

The economy can't be worse in Melbourne, or all of Australia for that matter... I wonder how difficult it is to get a work visa.

And the weather plays a big role, too!

No, our economy is fucking fantastic, so if that's what you were looking for then you made a good choice. I don't believe it's hard to start working either.

[North Calaveras]

? not even close tubbs...not even close.

You don't need to exactly conform to local political views to live in a country. You have Stalinists, Nazis and anarchists of every stripe living in the country, and they're all entitled to.

No, but it is preferred. Besides, it was ridiculous how you thought i was being belligerent.

[Greed and Death]

I'm politically and economically left as you can see, but I was wondering if there are Americans who have moved to Australia (or vice- versa) and to tell me what you see politically in respect to government, and with political/social respect to the public..

Any ex-pats? I'm from Flint, MI going to Melbourne, Australia...

I'll think of more questions later.. Thanks Nations.

Australia is more right winged then the GOP. Expect mandatory gun laws, bans of interracial marraige, and mandatory church attendance.

[Matt Selou]

Yeah, but I fit in with about 2% of the population... There are other factors, such as not getting shot just because I went to pick up the mail. I now live in the most dangerous city in America.

Also, I'm 29, no kids, so why not? I've been to Europe 4x, loved almost every minute, why not Australia?

It's going to be a long flight! I wonder if I need any special vaccines..

[Meowfoundland]

Melbourne, eh? Know which part of the city you're moving to?

[North Calaveras]

Yeah, but I fit in with about 2% of the population... There are other factors, such as not getting shot just because I went to pick up the mail. I now live in the most dangerous city in America.

Also, I'm 29, no kids, so why not? I've been to Europe 4x, loved almost every minute, why not Australia?

It's going to be a long flight! I wonder if I need any special vaccines..

visiting a country and actually trying to live their are two different things, make sure you know what your doing.

[Matt Selou]

I've heard my cousins mention two sections (they live apart), Victoria (province?) and Queensland.. I've been wanting to get more info, but with the huge time zone gap, its hard to get them at a good time.

Where is the "counterculture" section of Melbourne?

[Matt Selou]

Yeah, but I fit in with about 2% of the population... There are other factors, such as not getting shot just because I went to pick up the mail. I now live in the most dangerous city in America.

Also, I'm 29, no kids, so why not? I've been to Europe 4x, loved almost every minute, why not Australia?

It's going to be a long flight! I wonder if I need any special vaccines..

visiting a country and actually trying to live their are two different things, make sure you know what your doing.

Very true, and I've realized this for a long time, even during past travels. I just don't see how it can be any worse. If things don't work out after a few months, I can come back just in time for Michigan's summer:)

[North Calaveras]

visiting a country and actually trying to live their are two different things, make sure you know what your doing.

Very true, and I've realized this for a long time, even during past travels. I just don't see how it can be any worse. If things don't work out, I can come back just in time for Michigan's winter

Why don't you move to a country that's more like your beliefs? Why australia?

[Radiatia]

I'm a New Zealander, lived in Australia for a while and in my opinion you'll be fine.

Australians are the Americans of the south... they won't admit it but they are REALLY similar to the US.

[Matt Selou]

America won't grant work visas to Europe UNLESS it falls under some business treaty.. Basically, if you have money, we'll make exceptions to the rule. The weather is also important, and I have an aunt and some cousins in Australia. I loved the Netherlands, Germany, Hungary, Switzerland, England, Greece, but now to try somewhere I haven't been, oh yeah, and the weather, lol.

[Meowfoundland]

I've heard my cousins mention two sections (they live apart), Victoria (province?) and Queensland.. I've been wanting to get more info, but with the huge time zone gap, its hard to get them at a good time.

Where is the "counterculture" section of Melbourne?

There are 6 states of Australia (New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania, Queensland, South Australia and Western Australia) and 2 territories (Northern Territory and Australian Capital Territory). Melbourne is the capital city of Victoria.

As for counterculture, I have no idea. What specifically do you mean?

[Tubbsalot]

I've heard my cousins mention two sections (they live apart), Victoria (province?) and Queensland.. I've been wanting to get more info, but with the huge time zone gap, its hard to get them at a good time.

Where is the "counterculture" section of Melbourne?

Yes, Victoria is excellent by virtue of having Melbourne. Queensland is awful and terrible, filled with crocodiles and deadly flooding. But I don't think we have a counterculture section? Does that happen in America? There's, like, a Goth section of each city? The Goth Quarter? Little Gothica? Gotham?

Why don't you move to a country that's more like your beliefs? Why australia?

Because local beliefs aren't everything? He might also be religious, and nobody here cares about religion. That's not necessarily a make-or-break thing.

[North Calaveras]

I've heard my cousins mention two sections (they live apart), Victoria (province?) and Queensland.. I've been wanting to get more info, but with the huge time zone gap, its hard to get them at a good time.

Where is the "counterculture" section of Melbourne?

Yes, Victoria is excellent by virtue of having Melbourne. Queensland is awful and terrible, filled with crocodiles and deadly flooding. But I don't think we have a counterculture section? Does that happen in America? There's, like, a Goth section of each city? The Goth Quarter? Little Gothica? Gotham?

Why don't you move to a country that's more like your beliefs? Why australia?

Because local beliefs aren't everything? He might also be religious, and nobody here cares about religion. That's not necessarily a make-or-break thing.

Tubbs...Hes basing his decision on his beliefs...I'm simply asking him why.