Who Do You Think Is the Greatest Military Mind of All Time?

[New Korongo]

I would have to say Julius Caesar and maybe Erwin Rommel.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

Tadeusz Kościuszko, because he was able to almost always use terrain, the major factor in fighting on par with training, effectively to his needs not only in Europe but during the American Revolution.

[The Fifth Dominion]

Reign (length of conquest),
Kublai Khan
Alexander the Great.

Intelligence (tactical ability),
Erwin Rommel
Sun Tzu
Georgy Zhukov
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Ho Chi Minh
Yamashita Tomoyuki
Yamamoto Isoroku

Notoriety (how much he was feared/respected).
Genghis Khan
Uesugi Kenshin
Oda Nobunaga
Mao Zedong
Iosif Stalin
Julius Ceasar (I came, I saw, I CONQUERED)

Nay! Where is the Almighty Emperor of France, I ask!?

NAPOLEON!

He fought six different coalitions of mostly the same countries, outnumbered, with no friends, but still won.... mostly. His loss at Waterloo was due to rain, which clogged up the wheels of his cannons, which were his trump card throughout his career, and also due to the Prussians who arrived at the end of the battle BEHIND him, making him sandwiched between fresh Prussian troops, and firmly entrenched British forces.

A genius on both tactical and strategic levels.

[Jinos]

Julius Ceasar.

The man builds a wall around a city, and then builds another wall around THAT wall to defend his siege wall when an army outnumbering him 4 to 1 shows up.

"Alright sir, what do you think? We've surrounded the whole city now."

"Hmm. I think we need another wall."

"...

Sir?"

"Yes! We can siege them while they siege us!"

I do believe this amount of epic entitles you to

[The UK in Exile]

Nay! Where is the Almighty Emperor of France, I ask!?

NAPOLEON!

He fought six different coalitions of mostly the same countries, outnumbered, with no friends, but still won.... mostly. His loss at Waterloo was due to rain, which clogged up the wheels of his cannons, which were his trump card throughout his career, and also due to the Prussians who arrived at the end of the battle BEHIND him, making him sandwiched between fresh Prussian troops, and firmly entrenched British forces.

A genius on both tactical and strategic levels.

No love for wellington? who arranged the whole debacle including the nasty rear ending by the prussians.

Field Marshall William Slim is another brit who sadly doesn't get the renown he deserves.

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

Reign (length of conquest),
Kublai Khan
Alexander the Great.

Intelligence (tactical ability),
Erwin Rommel
Sun Tzu
Georgy Zhukov
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Ho Chi Minh
Yamashita Tomoyuki
Yamamoto Isoroku

Notoriety (how much he was feared/respected).
Genghis Khan
Uesugi Kenshin
Oda Nobunaga
Mao Zedong
Iosif Stalin
Julius Ceasar (I came, I saw, I CONQUERED)

Nay! Where is the Almighty Emperor of France, I ask!?

NAPOLEON!

He fought six different coalitions of mostly the same countries, outnumbered, with no friends, but still won.... mostly. His loss at Waterloo was due to rain, which clogged up the wheels of his cannons, which were his trump card throughout his career, and also due to the Prussians who arrived at the end of the battle BEHIND him, making him sandwiched between fresh Prussian troops, and firmly entrenched British forces.

A genius on both tactical and strategic levels.

You are right. Napoleon Bonaparte, should have been placed into my list.

I also agree on your point of Waterloo...as well as one thing...near the end of his reign, he was rat poisoned, affecting his brain in many aspects. I heard about this once.

[Nazis in Space]

R Lee Ermey is the essential definition ofwhat a military mind looks and think like.

[Megapolitania]

Ho Shi Minh (proved that asymmetric warfare can be won by the smaller side)

You should be crediting Vo Nguyen Giap for this.

[Greater Mackonia]

Alexander Suvorov

[Jinwoy]

Tactical:
Napoleon Bonaparte (France)

Reign:
Kublai Khan (Mongolia)

Respect (By your own peoples):
Adolf Hitler (Nazi Germany)

Respect (By Everyone):
Genghis Khan (Mongolia)

[Kirrig]

No.

He more won support than fought against people though. William the Great fully conquered England, without support from anyone else.

I agree with you, but I point out that William I's epithet is Conqueror not great, and the key difference between the two was that William III was invited.

Edward, the Black Prince, is also a contender here I'd imagine. (For the Greatest Military Mind of All Time, that is.)

[Caninope]

Reign (length of conquest),
Kublai Khan

A man who failed at invading Japan twice, and nearly lost his second invasion of Vietnam? This is disregarding the fact that he probably did very little of the planning himself.

Alexander the Great.

He conquered an empire tore apart by civil war. A much better test would have been to see if he could have kept it together, had he lived.

Sun Tzu

Sun Tzu makes vague statements, some of which are suicidal, odd, or just downright stupid.

Ho Chi Minh

...was not a military mind. He was a military mind.

Yamashita Tomoyuki

What did he do that makes him worthy of the list? Take Malaya and Singapore? He also lost the Phillipines, at a far greater cost of life than the US faced. The US and Filipino insurgents lost some 14k men, while he lost some 336k men.

Yamamoto Isoroku

The same Yamamoto who decided not to criticize the decision to attack Pearl Harbor? The man who couldn't defeat the US Navy, even when much of it was crippled or destroyed at Pearl Harbor?

[Maurepas]

You can't really undervalue the Roman Legions, as far as a military system. It had near the top of the list in success on nearly any category.

[Mu and Leng]

The greatest military tactician was my father. He conquered my mother, and that must have been a chore.

[Trussvania]

Aleksandr Suvorov is up there in my book.

[Tecon Olympia]

Patton

Due to his disciplined and radical planing a reincarnation of mars i say and the lifestyle he lived and i think he was very talented and educated the only thing i hate about this man is that he did not fight or command the U.S. Army in Korea.

[The UK in Exile]

Patton

Due to his disciplined and radical planing a reincarnation of mars i say and the lifestyle he lived and i think he was very talented and educated the only thing i hate about this man is that he did not fight or command the U.S. Army in Korea.

he had been dead for 5 years....

[Anitgrum]

Patton

Due to his disciplined and radical planing a reincarnation of mars i say and the lifestyle he lived and i think he was very talented and educated the only thing i hate about this man is that he did not fight or command the U.S. Army in Korea.

I thank God every day that he didn't.

[The Fifth Dominion]

NAPOLEON!

I will keep spamming til someone agrees. (Someone did a few posts ago...)

[The UK in Exile]

NAPOLEON!

I will keep spamming til someone agrees. (Someone did a few posts ago...)

i will agree if you also add Wellington.

[The Fifth Dominion]

Derp.

Wellington. Someone keep spamming him as well!

[The USOT]

Napoleon!
I do have a certain respect for the style of leadership of Trotsky (in terms of a historical view rather than supporting his practices), and one cannot help but admire how epic Alexander the great was


Just noticed the posts above mine. My choice of Napoleon was quite genuine btw, the timing is just an epic coincidence

[The Fifth Dominion]

lol awesome timing

[Drackonisa]

sun tzu.

[Zersium]

Derp.

Wellington. Someone keep spamming him as well!

Wellington. He just had this...connection, with his men, this awesome connection so he knew what they thought about him and the battles.

Napoleon was fairly superior, given how Waterloo played out, but Wellington was still incredibly a genius.