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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:16 pm

JJ Place wrote:
Gryflheim wrote:I don't quite understand why half the posts on here are alarmingly anti-religious and, honestly, a little racist. It justs seems like people just trying to stir up more trouble on the internet.

Criticizing Religion does not equate racism. Those are two completely separate spheres of communication.

Unless your Jewish. What? :meh:

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Postby Anthoniland » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:19 pm

I don't hate religion but I do strongly disagree with it. And I haven't seen any racist posts.

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Postby Erinkita » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:22 pm

NS doesn't hate religion. Some posters might. A lot of us are highly critical of religion, but that doesn't equate to hate. I have no idea how you're getting racism out of this. Perhaps you don't know what that word means.

As for me, religion is like Eddie Murphy. I can see the appeal and I'd never try to take away anyone's enjoyment of it, but I wouldn't get in line for it.
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Postby New Manvir » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:00 pm

Opiachus wrote:"Does NSG hate religion?"

The answer would be a weak yes. More people here are atheists than religious, so on average it'd be slightly biased towards atheism.


There's a big difference between being an atheist and hating religion. Atheism is a rejection of the notion of God and religion, not necessarily outright hatred of it. On the other hand, anti-theism (such as that advocated by myself) would be outright hatred of religion and its ideals.
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Postby Zeth Rekia » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:01 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I don't think NSG hates religion in any way.

It does in portions, but not as a whole.

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Postby JJ Place » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:
JJ Place wrote:Criticizing Religion does not equate racism. Those are two completely separate spheres of communication.

Unless your Jewish. What? :meh:

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:16 pm

Institutionaly no. Many individuals, yes.
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Postby Romania Mare1 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:38 pm

I can't believe people don't hate religion !
I mean we're talking about organized religion,right ? The same religion that helps spread aids,steals,indoctrinate, killed and tortured (and sometimes still does,depends on the cult ),goes against civil liberties,free thought,science and justice.
How can people NOT hate this ? Religion is a spit in humanity's face and needs to be exterminated like the cancer it is

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Postby Great Malema » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:42 pm

Genivaria wrote:
JJ Place wrote:Criticizing Religion does not equate racism. Those are two completely separate spheres of communication.

Unless your Jewish. What? :meh:


The Jews aren't one race either.

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Postby New Manvir » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:04 am

Great Malema wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Unless your Jewish. What? :meh:


The Jews aren't one race either.


Yep.
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Postby New Kilballyowen » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:07 am

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Postby Felbah » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:11 am

I'm a Christian, and I do admit, quite a few posts are quite anti-religion, but if you look very hard, there is sometimes some pro-religion posts.
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Postby Great Malema » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:12 am

New Manvir wrote:
Great Malema wrote:
The Jews aren't one race either.


Yep.


Hold on. I'm confused. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

(I'm not bothered reading the whole article by the way. So if you're disagreeing with me, please point out where I'm wrong).

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Postby Horak » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:18 am

Not me.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:21 am

Opiachus wrote:And as for the main question:

"Does NSG hate religion?"

The answer would be a weak yes. More people here are atheists than religious, so on average it'd be slightly biased towards atheism.

Being atheist does not mean hating religion...
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Postby New Bazlantis » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:22 am

Genivaria wrote:
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Nonsense. We're a hivemind.

Nonsense. We're a hivemind.


Nonsense. We're a hivemind.

Seriously though I don't think that NS is particularly anti religion but one must remember that the majority of people who use NS, in my experience, are university students and are thus educated enough to see religion for the hooey it really is. I believe this is just demonstrative of the times we live in. Religion has become obsolete.

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Postby Erinkita » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:22 am

Great Malema wrote:
New Manvir wrote:
Yep.


Hold on. I'm confused. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

(I'm not bothered reading the whole article by the way. So if you're disagreeing with me, please point out where I'm wrong).

Considering the article is about divisions between Jewish ethnicities, I think it's a safe bet he's agreeing with you.
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Postby Marvelous Gentlemen and Ladies » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:25 am

New Bazlantis wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Nonsense. We're a hivemind.


Nonsense. We're a hivemind.

Seriously though I don't think that NS is particularly anti religion but one must remember that the majority of people who use NS, in my experience, are university students and are thus educated enough to see religion for the hooey it really is. I believe this is just demonstrative of the times we live in. Religion has become obsolete.


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Postby New Manvir » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:29 am

Erinkita wrote:
Great Malema wrote:
Hold on. I'm confused. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

(I'm not bothered reading the whole article by the way. So if you're disagreeing with me, please point out where I'm wrong).

Considering the article is about divisions between Jewish ethnicities, I think it's a safe bet he's agreeing with you.


Yeah, It shows different ethnic groups that are also Jewish.
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Postby New Bazlantis » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:36 am

Jenrak (forum moderator) states here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=147824

Considering NS' leaning atheist / agnostic, more open nature

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:37 am

Opiachus wrote:And as for the main question:

"Does NSG hate religion?"

The answer would be a weak yes. More people here are atheists than religious, so on average it'd be slightly biased towards atheism.


Atheism =/= hating religion.
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Postby The Cookish States » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:41 am

Nonsense, we're a hivemind.

Nah, I'm Christian, but barely holding onto my faith. I veer away from NSG because it's so atheist based. I personally enjoy believing in God, though I have doubts on certain stories and rules I still believe the core of the bible holds true. The main place where I lose my fellow Christians is that I don't think Muslims, Hindus, or Jews go to Hell. Sure, I think my form is right, but I think faith in anything beyond explanation is admirable, and that we'll all find out the truth when we're dead. Atheists pushing the fact that God doesn't exist does one of two things
1:Pisses the religious person off.
2:Solidifies their faith.
So they won't achieve their goal, and I don't have to explain why you can't convert folks over the internet do I?

Finally, I personally think many atheists (Agnostics, whatever) lie about their "bad experiences" with religion. I'm not speaking of outliers, but I've heard dozens of people portray religious people as annoying and pushy, and in all my years of sinning (i.e coming to youth study drunk, banging a deacons daughter, being a known troublemaker) I haven't had a single person belittle me about it. Sure, pushy Christians are out there, but c'mon, 99% of us don't have the motivation to 'convert' a fierce atheist. So here's a plan, sit, wait, when we're dead it'll all be resolved. I'm not responsible for your afterlife and you're not responsible for mine, so who cares anyway?

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Postby Tekcirb » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:50 am

Gryflheim wrote:I don't quite understand why half the posts on here are alarmingly anti-religious and, honestly, a little racist. It justs seems like people just trying to stir up more trouble on the internet.


Buddy, Religions aren't a race.

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Postby Apollonesia » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:53 am

Gryflheim wrote:I don't quite understand why half the posts on here are alarmingly anti-religious and, honestly, a little racist. It justs seems like people just trying to stir up more trouble on the internet.

It seems the majority of people here are liberal and/or atheist. However, I have yet to see evidence of racism and this alarmingly anti-religious attitude you speak of.

If I look, I might find a post or two denouncing religious fundamentalism, not religion in general.
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Postby Borun » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:56 am

Perhaps the impression you got is due to the fact that Christians feel the need to respect those who disagree with them. No matter how much atheists may abuse Christianity, most Christians are (or should be) taught not to return like for like. Also, some of us religious folk probably feel like we're a tad outnumbered by those who have no problem saying whatever the hell they want, no matter how offensive they are. Better not to even engage. So most of what you hear are the voices of those who who hate/disapprove of/dislike/are indifferent to religion.

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