Gay Marriage

[Malgrave]

Everyone should have the freedom to marriage and anyone attempting to restrict such freedoms is a bigoted idiot.

[The Anti-Cosmic Gods]

The fact of the matter is, we live in a free society and freedom means freedom for everybody. We don't get to choose, and shouldn't be able to choose, and say, "You get to live free, but you don't."

And I think that means that people should be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to enter into. It's really no one else's business in terms of trying to regulate or prohibit behavior in that regard.

The next step then, of course, is the question you asked of whether or not there ought to be some kind of official sanction, if you will, of the relationship or if these relationships should be treated the same way a conventional marriage is. That's a tougher problem. That's not a slam dunk.

I think the fact of the matter, of course, is that matter is regulated by the states. I think different states are likely to come to different conclusions and that's appropriate. I don't think there should necessarily be a federal policy in this area.

I try to be open-minded about it as much as I can and tolerant of those relationships.

If you oppose gay marriage, you hate freedom more than Dick Cheney.

[Arbites]

Is it? Well, I guess I've better get to the lesbianing, then. Odd, I really thought I was straight, but I guess you know best. Somehow the virus sensed my gay gene and just pounced.
Anyone feel like instructing a naive young lass of Irish blood in the beautiful art of girl-on-girl?

*Raises hand*

Too bad it's no longer lethal. I would gladly dance on the grave of every person who has posted in sympathy with homosexuals in this thread. I couldn't be more serious. So long you pieces of shit.

Someone has some insecurity to work out.

[Bulgharia]

No. Think of the children.

[Erinkita]

No. Think of the children.

And...?

[Dyakovo]

No. Think of the children.

*thinks of the children*
*still sees no reason to oppse same-sex marriage*

[Bottle]

No. Think of the children.

Ugh, good point, when I was a kid I hated weddings. I had to put on uncomfortable formal clothing and put up with tons of adults telling me how big I'd gotten (I hadn't, for the record, I was always a runt) and sit quietly through an endless ceremony and then go to a big room with all sorts of party decorations where I wasn't allowed to run around but had to sit quietly some MORE, and there would be this giant cake in the middle of the room but I wasn't allowed to go near it and I had to wait and wait and wait and wait and they wouldn't share out the cake for AGES, and then they'd play stupid music and the adults would dance to it slowly and there would be lots of talking and crying and I still was supposed to sit quietly.

You just KNOW the gays are going to throw bang-up weddings and insist on dressing up all the little kids in matching outfits. Ban weddings, IMO. Think of the children.

[Norstal]

No. Think of the children.

And...?

He's saying we should be pedophiles instead of being gay. *nods*

[Erinkita]

I used to resent being shunted from foster home to foster home, but I didn't know how good I had it. Imagine if I'd been adopted by a couple of queermosexuals. They might have kissed in front of me. My poor impressionable parentless mind could not withstand such horror.

[Dyakovo]

No. Think of the children.

Ugh, good point, when I was a kid I hated weddings. I had to put on uncomfortable formal clothing and put up with tons of adults telling me how big I'd gotten (I hadn't, for the record, I was always a runt) and sit quietly through an endless ceremony and then go to a big room with all sorts of party decorations where I wasn't allowed to run around but had to sit quietly some MORE, and there would be this giant cake in the middle of the room but I wasn't allowed to go near it and I had to wait and wait and wait and wait and they wouldn't share out the cake for AGES, and then they'd play stupid music and the adults would dance to it slowly and there would be lots of talking and crying and I still was supposed to sit quietly.

You just KNOW the gays are going to throw bang-up weddings and insist on dressing up all the little kids in matching outfits. Ban weddings, IMO. Think of the children.

[Bleckonia]

Yea. If 2 gays want to marry, who am I to stop them? They should have equal rights as heterosexuals.

[Norstal]

No. Think of the children.

Ugh, good point, when I was a kid I hated weddings. I had to put on uncomfortable formal clothing and put up with tons of adults telling me how big I'd gotten (I hadn't, for the record, I was always a runt) and sit quietly through an endless ceremony and then go to a big room with all sorts of party decorations where I wasn't allowed to run around but had to sit quietly some MORE, and there would be this giant cake in the middle of the room but I wasn't allowed to go near it and I had to wait and wait and wait and wait and they wouldn't share out the cake for AGES, and then they'd play stupid music and the adults would dance to it slowly and there would be lots of talking and crying and I still was supposed to sit quietly.

You just KNOW the gays are going to throw bang-up weddings and insist on dressing up all the little kids in matching outfits. Ban weddings, IMO. Think of the children.

But you experienced heterosexual marriage. Not gay marriage. Who knows just how gay gay marriages are.

[Arbites]

No. Think of the children.

You're right, clearly millions of little boys will run off to get married to each other because girls have cooties.

[-St George]

No. Think of the children.

You're right, clearly millions of little boys will run off to get married to each other because girls have cooties.

I knew it! O:

[Tekania]

No. Think of the children.

I am thinking of the Children, that's one of the reasons I support Same-Sex marriage.

[The Rich Port]

I would be thrilled to see such definitive research explaining how and exactly when marriage ceased to be a social and legal institution based on gender roles and male power over women. I would also be thrilled to see how this research shows that gay marriage has escaped the trappings of such gendered heteronormativity, paving the way for opposite sex couples to finally find true gender equality within their state-sanctioned marriages. I await this wonderful information with baited breath.
^thats a quote by femnipotent but technology hates me

I may be wrong (though in someones belief they can never be wrong) but i always thought that if anything, the simply fact that, traditionally, the man has to ask the woman, this would empower the woman instantly as opposed to giving the man power over the woman, other than the woman feeling a tad guilty is she says no.

Overall though i do think theres no need for marriage of any sort, it just binds people to each other.

So, the question is not whether this is a fact.

It's whether people give a damn about tradition.

And I sure as shit don't.

And I don't expect others to either.

[Salandriagado]

I used to resent being shunted from foster home to foster home, but I didn't know how good I had it. Imagine if I'd been adopted by a couple of queermosexuals. They might have kissed in front of me. My poor impressionable parentless mind could not withstand such horror.

Do I detect the faintest hint of sarcasm in this post?

[Arcomo]

No. Think of the children.

^stupid and unfounded argument.

Of course gay marriage need to be legal, it's a no-brainer. It just takes a bit long for this to happen because of democracy and all the stupid people that live under it, but it's progress nonetheless.

It can't harm anyone if two consenting people marry, nor does it harm society. And we all know the biggest enemy of marriage, for those wanting to 'protect' it, is divorce; so point your arrows at that instead.

[Lowtovia]

I would be thrilled to see such definitive research explaining how and exactly when marriage ceased to be a social and legal institution based on gender roles and male power over women. I would also be thrilled to see how this research shows that gay marriage has escaped the trappings of such gendered heteronormativity, paving the way for opposite sex couples to finally find true gender equality within their state-sanctioned marriages. I await this wonderful information with baited breath.
^thats a quote by femnipotent but technology hates me

I may be wrong (though in someones belief they can never be wrong) but i always thought that if anything, the simply fact that, traditionally, the man has to ask the woman, this would empower the woman instantly as opposed to giving the man power over the woman, other than the woman feeling a tad guilty is she says no.

Overall though i do think theres no need for marriage of any sort, it just binds people to each other.

So, the question is not whether this is a fact.

It's whether people give a damn about tradition.

And I sure as shit don't.

And I don't expect others to either.

I can't tell if you are arguing with me or agreeing with me, would it be possibly to rephrase it please ta

[Orcoa]

I'm not alone! I have a brothers in arms! Now! Let us ride onto your steads of awesome and fight with truth and fire agasint those who would stop the rights of free beings everywere!
(Puts on Skyrim Theme)

Indeed.

(Gives you and Coffee Cake Plate armor, a flaming sword, and steeds of awesome and rainbows) Let us ride into Battle!

[Farnhamia]

Indeed.

(Gives you and Coffee Cake Plate armor, a flaming sword, and steads of awesome and rainbows) Let us ride into Battle!

This would be so much better if you'd both written "steeds" instead of "steads."

Okay, it wouldn't, but it might be slightly less lame.

[Orcoa]

(Gives you and Coffee Cake Plate armor, a flaming sword, and steads of awesome and rainbows) Let us ride into Battle!

This would be so much better if you'd both written "steeds" instead of "steads."

Okay, it wouldn't, but it might be slightly less lame.

......Fuck! Curse you Midterm tests and making me staying up all night!!!

[Sunny Pastures]

yea. I think it is an individuals choice. Not the government or religious nutcases choice. But the government will never allow it because of the money issue. ie... paying SS and medicare,taxes ect. They (government) makes too much money on battling it.

[Desori]

Yay or Nay? Why is this an issue? Seriously. When marriage is just a human construct, gender is just a human construct, hell humanity is a human construct. When you think about it, love doesn't even exist. Life is what you make of it. Is a marriage that isn't recognized by the Catholic Church not a marriage? Is a marriage not recognized by the state not a marriage? Believe what you want to believe.

[Four-sided Triangles]

Too bad it's no longer lethal. I would gladly dance on the grave of every person who has posted in sympathy with homosexuals in this thread. I couldn't be more serious. So long you pieces of shit.

What's the matter, can't win the argument on a rational level so you're just going to pick up your toys and go home? What are you, 6?