Why would god hate an athiest?

[Farnhamia]

God doesn't hate anyone.

Oh, Really?

Yeah ... no. I'll stick with my theory. A story where the gods are sorry they did it isn't terribly scary. The god of the Hebrews actually promised not to do it again, and the gods and goddesses of Sumeria were perishing of hunger.

NEWSFLASH: He intends to do it again (revelation)

End the world, yes. End it in a flood, no, he promised.

[Distruzio]

The Christian god is vain and jealous. Probably couldn't stand the idea of someone who did't even aknowledge his exitence.

The Jewish interpretation is not necessarily the same thing as the Christian interpretation (bibliolaters excluded, of course).

[Sanguinthium]

Fail.

You know, some people use arguments when they say other people are wrong.

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"

Oh, Really?




NEWSFLASH: He intends to do it again (revelation)

End the world, yes. End it in a flood, no, he promised.

oh good to know; he wont drown us all, he'll just burn us all. and you still worship this?

[Dyakovo]

You know, some people use arguments when they say other people are wrong.

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"

End the world, yes. End it in a flood, no, he promised.

oh good to know; he wont drown us all, he'll just burn us all. and you still worship this?

[Sanguinthium]

The Christian god is vain and jealous. Probably couldn't stand the idea of someone who did't even aknowledge his exitence.

first two deadly sins- pride and envy (which is jealousy)

Problem, god cannot abide sin people?

[Farnhamia]

You know, some people use arguments when they say other people are wrong.

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"

End the world, yes. End it in a flood, no, he promised.

oh good to know; he wont drown us all, he'll just burn us all. and you still worship this?

Me? Worship a minor hill-god who couldn't make it in Canaan? Good grief, no. I'm just explaining.

[Sanguinthium]

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"



oh good to know; he wont drown us all, he'll just burn us all. and you still worship this?

Me? Worship a minor hill-god who couldn't make it in Canaan? Good grief, no. I'm just explaining.

quite.

[The Alma Mater]

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"

Both of those are atheists. An agnostic atheist and a strong atheist to be exact

[Norstal]

Me? Worship a minor hill-god who couldn't make it in Canaan? Good grief, no. I'm just explaining.

But, you have to admit. They did get the world ending right.

I don't think they ever said anything about the extinction of the human race though...

[Sanguinthium]

People always say that if your an athiest your going to hell.This got me thinking.Why (if he exists) would he send me to an eternity of suffering in a fighery hole of dispaire.Doing this horrifying act just because I don't think he existed.There was no evidence to support the fact he exist.I never did anything terribly wrong compared to the next guy.If god is real in this manner he is a evil villianous charector sending me and my closest friend to an eternity of suffering worse than death itself.

I'm not scared by this since he doesn't exist.

Fully agree. If any god existed(From any of the religions) and was truly as they claim then he wouldn't send anyone to hell for not believing. Notice before bombing this with your christian ideals and religious ways; actually tell a sentence, not just a hate speech of christian imperial crazed ideas. Anyways there are plenty of stories that many went to heaven because they ether repented or were truly not evil. Only true evil goes to hell. Not people with different ideals, that's just a racist thought put into everyone's head from when Christianity controlled the known world. God in almost all context is an understanding, caring being that accepts people like his followers are supposed to do. Unfortunately there are plenty of bad seeds now that just shout "Believe or die and burn!". A way you can look is that Christianity is souly a belief system just like all religion in general. But many including you and I put fact and reason above blind faith to something making us Rationalists.

If an atheist is called evil then count how many atheists killed people in the name of Atheism. Then count those who believe in religion, then add Christianity. Your gonna get a funny number. Unfortunately some Christians have diverted from the path they swore to follow acting like Christianity is a fact and must be followed as a law or be punished by death. Such examples are here I bet. Others such as "You don't believe in Christ? Your gonna burn you know?" or "Believe in the Lord or die and burn for eternity!". Those Christians are bad examples for the whole religious community. Christians are taught to accept others for there differences and to spread peace. Same boat goes for Islam, which is actually supposed to be kinder to others and respectful in general. Yet hundreds of years later Christians started over 18 Crusades in the name of God killing thousands, many being innocent. Today crazed sects of Islamist make up terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Or make up corrupt nations like Iran. These are bad examples of intolerant religious homophobes, while there are still many good people out there that these people give bad rep for. Even now I bet you that you or someone else will post very intolerant crap about this post even though it's provided with facts.

I am a Rationalist who dose not believe in any religion at all. Simply because non-are proven real. This is my opinion like others. I can't believe in it (Religion) because non can be proven fact as real which is what I only believe in (Things that can be proven though fact, science, and reason).

So in the end a God or what ever deity if they exist wouldn't send you to hell because you simply did not believe. If they did then I'd have to agree that they are an evil corrupted being. Something like Hades of Greek miths.

unfortunately for you, dante, who put the pagans in hell, the virtuous pagans in the nicest hell (but still hell) and the normal non believers in ovens, is considered by the church to be divinely inspired.

he also put Tiberius in heaven, but that is because some pope baptized him after exhuming his ashes or something similar, to save his soul because he admired him.

[Farnhamia]

Me? Worship a minor hill-god who couldn't make it in Canaan? Good grief, no. I'm just explaining.

But, you have to admit. They did get the world ending right.

I don't think they ever said anything about the extinction of the human race though...

I suppose, but I've forgotten how many predictions or descriptions of the end of the world I've heard.

[Norstal]

Agnostic: "god probably doesnt exist, but im not sure"
Atheist: "god is a delusion sir, and i recommend that you awaken to your senses, for surely there is no such thing!"

Both of those are atheists. An agnostic atheist and a strong atheist to be exact

No. An agnostic can be a theist or an atheist.

To be an agnostic is like saying that you are made of eukaryotes, but you don't know what organism you are.

[The Alma Mater]

Both of those are atheists. An agnostic atheist and a strong atheist to be exact

No. An agnostic can be a theist or an atheist.

Yes, that is what I said

[Norstal]

No. An agnostic can be a theist or an atheist.

Yes, that is what I said

You said that both are atheists. I just that they can be a theist or an athe-

Oh, you bastard. I hate puns.

[The Archregimancy]

unfortunately for you, dante, who put the pagans in hell, the virtuous pagans in the nicest hell (but still hell) and the normal non believers in ovens, is considered by the church to be divinely inspired.

he also put Tiberius in heaven, but that is because some pope baptized him after exhuming his ashes or something similar, to save his soul because he admired him.

Sanguinthium, for how long are you going to persist in posting demonstrably incorrect facts that have been proven to be demonstrably incorrect, and which you have previously accepted are demonstrably incorrect?

Re-read this post from page 25:

viewtopic.php?p=7423386#p7423386

No one has ever put Tiberius in heaven. A medieval legend which no one currently believes in, but which was repeated by Dante, holds that Gregory the Great prayed for the salvation of Trajan. Dante himself also chose to put one of Aeneas' pagan colleagues in heaven.

As several people have noted on several occasions, Dante is in no way shape or form dogma or canon law for Catholics, never mind the totality of Christians. Dante was never beatified, never canonised, and nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Dante suggests that he was 'divinely inspired' in any manner which would make anyone take the Divine Comedy as a factual representation of official doctrine, as opposed to an allegory which draws extensively upon Catholic doctrine, and in some cases reinforced and popularised Catholic doctrine - but which has never defined said doctrine, and is more than slightly irrelevant to non-Catholics anyway.

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread, the more you post here, the more you demonstrate that you have little to no understanding of Christian doctrine, Dante, medieval church history, or even - ironically enough given the amount of time you've spent criticising Christians in this thread for not knowing enough about their own religion - the roots of medieval Norse paganism and the Baldur myth.

Constantly repeating something after other people have proven it to be false - and after you've even accepted something to be false in some cases - does not suddenly make it true.

[Kazomal]

God doesn't hate anyone.

Oh, Really?

Yeah, really.

[Dyakovo]

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread

*bows*

[Johz]

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread

*bows*

While God may hate you, at least you have the luxury that his followers on earth grudgingly admire your discussion on the subject of his existence...

[Farnhamia]

unfortunately for you, dante, who put the pagans in hell, the virtuous pagans in the nicest hell (but still hell) and the normal non believers in ovens, is considered by the church to be divinely inspired.

he also put Tiberius in heaven, but that is because some pope baptized him after exhuming his ashes or something similar, to save his soul because he admired him.

Sanguinthium, for how long are you going to persist in posting demonstrably incorrect facts that have been proven to be demonstrably incorrect, and which you have previously accepted are demonstrably incorrect?

Re-read this post from page 25:

viewtopic.php?p=7423386#p7423386

No one has ever put Tiberius in heaven. A medieval legend which no one currently believes in, but which was repeated by Dante, holds that Gregory the Great prayed for the salvation of Trajan. Dante himself also chose to put one of Aeneas' pagan colleagues in heaven.

As several people have noted on several occasions, Dante is in no way shape or form dogma or canon law for Catholics, never mind the totality of Christians. Dante was never beatified, never canonised, and nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Dante suggests that he was 'divinely inspired' in any manner which would make anyone take the Divine Comedy as a factual representation of official doctrine, as opposed to an allegory which draws extensively upon Catholic doctrine, and in some cases reinforced and popularised Catholic doctrine - but which has never defined said doctrine, and is more than slightly irrelevant to non-Catholics anyway.

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread, the more you post here, the more you demonstrate that you have little to no understanding of Christian doctrine, Dante, medieval church history, or even - ironically enough given the amount of time you've spent criticising Christians in this thread for not knowing enough about their own religion - the roots of medieval Norse paganism and the Baldur myth.

Constantly repeating something after other people have proven it to be false - and after you've even accepted something to be false in some cases - does not suddenly make it true.

Tsk. Such an opportunity wasted, Arch ... "Quo usque tandem abutere, O Sanguinthie, patientia nostra?"

I never cared for Marcus Cicero's politics but the man did have a way with words.

[Sanguinthium]

unfortunately for you, dante, who put the pagans in hell, the virtuous pagans in the nicest hell (but still hell) and the normal non believers in ovens, is considered by the church to be divinely inspired.

he also put Tiberius in heaven, but that is because some pope baptized him after exhuming his ashes or something similar, to save his soul because he admired him.

Sanguinthium, for how long are you going to persist in posting demonstrably incorrect facts that have been proven to be demonstrably incorrect, and which you have previously accepted are demonstrably incorrect?

Re-read this post from page 25:

viewtopic.php?p=7423386#p7423386

No one has ever put Tiberius in heaven. A medieval legend which no one currently believes in, but which was repeated by Dante, holds that Gregory the Great prayed for the salvation of Trajan. Dante himself also chose to put one of Aeneas' pagan colleagues in heaven.

As several people have noted on several occasions, Dante is in no way shape or form dogma or canon law for Catholics, never mind the totality of Christians. Dante was never beatified, never canonised, and nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Dante suggests that he was 'divinely inspired' in any manner which would make anyone take the Divine Comedy as a factual representation of official doctrine, as opposed to an allegory which draws extensively upon Catholic doctrine, and in some cases reinforced and popularised Catholic doctrine - but which has never defined said doctrine, and is more than slightly irrelevant to non-Catholics anyway.

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread, the more you post here, the more you demonstrate that you have little to no understanding of Christian doctrine, Dante, medieval church history, or even - ironically enough given the amount of time you've spent criticising Christians in this thread for not knowing enough about their own religion - the roots of medieval Norse paganism and the Baldur myth.

Constantly repeating something after other people have proven it to be false - and after you've even accepted something to be false in some cases - does not suddenly make it true.

damnit i keep mixing them it!
Tiberius, trajen.. so similar! again, meant Trajan. sorry at me...

and you know absolutely nothing about norse paganism. just because you say you do doesnt make it right. just like how i keep mixing Tiberius and Trajen up, and presenting it as fact
anyway, just because YOU claim it to be legend doesnt mean that nobody believes it. my local priest said he exhumed to remains of Trajen. in his ashes. wonder how that one worked besides...

"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

Baldr is not anything close to Nordic Jesus.

Baldr predates Christianity in scandinavia. Thor is the only Norse god who would qualify as a Jesus is either Tyr or Thor.

Hitler, However was a christian.

someone mentioned Aeneas, so i just rolled with it and i do accept that i really fucked up and put the wrong emperor- my mistake on that one. at any case, they were "saved" and therefore became Christians, thus allowing them place in Dantes Paradiso.

As Divine Unity has already sort of pointed out (except that we're talking about the Paradiso rather than the Inferno), I wasn't aware that an 8th-century legend and 14th-century Florentine literature had achieved the status of pan-Christian canon.

You must enlighten us with more detail as to when this took place.

forgot to respond to this-
1. 1277 was not the 14th century.
2. Fillippo said that dante was divinely inspired, as did Dante (a devote catholic), claiming the texts as him writing down a prophetic vision. i remember reading that the church had a positive position on the poems.

[Farnhamia]

Sanguinthium, for how long are you going to persist in posting demonstrably incorrect facts that have been proven to be demonstrably incorrect, and which you have previously accepted are demonstrably incorrect?

Re-read this post from page 25:

viewtopic.php?p=7423386#p7423386

No one has ever put Tiberius in heaven. A medieval legend which no one currently believes in, but which was repeated by Dante, holds that Gregory the Great prayed for the salvation of Trajan. Dante himself also chose to put one of Aeneas' pagan colleagues in heaven.

As several people have noted on several occasions, Dante is in no way shape or form dogma or canon law for Catholics, never mind the totality of Christians. Dante was never beatified, never canonised, and nothing in the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Dante suggests that he was 'divinely inspired' in any manner which would make anyone take the Divine Comedy as a factual representation of official doctrine, as opposed to an allegory which draws extensively upon Catholic doctrine, and in some cases reinforced and popularised Catholic doctrine - but which has never defined said doctrine, and is more than slightly irrelevant to non-Catholics anyway.

Unlike - say - Farnhamia, the Alma Mater, Dyakovo, or numerous others who have disagreed with Christianity in this thread, the more you post here, the more you demonstrate that you have little to no understanding of Christian doctrine, Dante, medieval church history, or even - ironically enough given the amount of time you've spent criticising Christians in this thread for not knowing enough about their own religion - the roots of medieval Norse paganism and the Baldur myth.

Constantly repeating something after other people have proven it to be false - and after you've even accepted something to be false in some cases - does not suddenly make it true.

damnit i keep mixing them it!
Tiberius, trajen.. so similar!

and you know absolutely nothing about norse paganism. just because you say you do doesnt make it right. just like how i keep mixing Tiberius and Trajen up, and presenting it as fact

*makes popcorn*

[Sanguinthium]

Both of those are atheists. An agnostic atheist and a strong atheist to be exact

No. An agnostic can be a theist or an atheist.

To be an agnostic is like saying that you are made of eukaryotes, but you don't know what organism you are.

Stephan Colbert made a oh-so relevant summery of Agnostics... however, tis so disdainful, that i feel it is wisest just to encourage you to look it up.

[Caninope]

It has a lot to do with diet. Malnutrition stunts growth. This is why the Norse countries all have some of the tallest people on average.

the Norse, being highly agrarian, therefore prove that farmers are taller than hunter gatherers. which contradicts your own point that you put forth to begin with. try again.

I'm not arguing this for the modern age. I'm arguing this for the biblical and ancient age, where agrarians would not have had the same nutrition a hunter gatherer would have had.

[Caninope]

I never cared for Marcus Cicero's politics but the man did have a way with words.

Ceterum censeo Suus argument esse delendam.

Cato the Elder FTW.

[Bottle]

Frankly, I'm a lot less worried about god's hatred than I am about the hatred of the laundry gnomes. They keep chewing up my favorite t-shirts, in their wrath, and the only way I can appease them seems to be by feeding them my favorite pair of jeans.