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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:10 pm

Demonatrix wrote:
Vazdania wrote:prove to me thier isn't


You make the claim for a non physical world, you provide the evidence to support that claim, no evidence, no reason to believe...

le...the evidense is the le multiple accounts of Ghosties!!!!
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Postby Bottle » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:11 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:Oh, wrong, sorry. My brain, that allows for human consciousness and personality, makes me what I am: Ceann, the human. Considering it is the brain, not the spirit, that is the target of lobotomies, your argument is invalid.

lobotomies still allow the rest of the brain to be active though. Full frontal screw with the Frontal lobe... the other type just severs the hemisheres

That's kind of the point.

By damaging specific areas of the brain, we can eliminate specific functions. If I stab you in the motor cortex, your "spirit" isn't going to magically allow you to continue making voluntary movements. If you suffer a blow to the back of your head that destroys your occipital lobe, you're going to be blind and your "spirit" isn't going to do jack shit for you.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:11 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:Oh, wrong, sorry. My brain, that allows for human consciousness and personality, makes me what I am: Ceann, the human. Considering it is the brain, not the spirit, that is the target of lobotomies, your argument is invalid.

lobotomies still allow the rest of the brain to be active though. Full frontal screw with the Frontal lobe... the other type just severs the hemisheres

And? Considering the effects, it is proof that personality originates from the brain. I believe we have some neurosurgeons about who can explain this further to your uneducated-on-the-brain mind.

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Postby Avenio » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:11 pm

Vazdania wrote:who are you?


I am [Insert name here]. Who else would I be?

Vazdania wrote:what are you?


A large, warm, wet sac of complex organic chemistry. Or, alternatively, a particularly advanced colony of cells. AKA, h. sapiens sapiens.

Vazdania wrote:what makes you...you?


My brain and neurochemistry, as well as the environment in which I live.

Vazdania wrote:a collection of your 5 senses? that is limiting


Not really. I can see right across to the centre of the galaxy.

Vazdania wrote:you cant walk...but you can


I'm pretty sure I can walk, thanks for asking.

Vazdania wrote:your brain? nope....the brain can die then come back to life example Coma's


Unconsciousness =/= brain death.

Vazdania wrote:Your body? nope! That is not really conciousness now is it?


Your brain cannot survive without your body and vice versa. Symbiosis is wonderful, ain't it?

Vazdania wrote:what are you? your a spirit that lets your brain be active


I am a series of Na+/K+/Ca+ chemical gradients and neurotransmitters travelling up and down cell membranes.

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Postby Demonatrix » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:12 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Can't prove a negative, sorry. Its your duty to prove the existence of a deity if you want us to accept your position as factual. Until then, disbelief or lack of belief is an acceptable, and probable, position.

or or or we could be like the people looking for the Panda's!!!! or the Gorilla's!!!!


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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:12 pm

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Vazdania wrote:lobotomies still allow the rest of the brain to be active though. Full frontal screw with the Frontal lobe... the other type just severs the hemisheres

That's kind of the point.

By damaging specific areas of the brain, we can eliminate specific functions. If I stab you in the motor cortex, your "spirit" isn't going to magically allow you to continue making voluntary movements. If you suffer a blow to the back of your head that destroys your occipital lobe, you're going to be blind and your "spirit" isn't going to do jack shit for you.

then that part of the brain is dead. The spirit just can't make dead things alive again!
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:12 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Yes, most would call it the "sun", but you can call it whatever you wish, I suppose.

-_- why you so critical??? I am refering of course to a god or gods

And many tribals, as history shows, worship entities in the sky or nature first, then lump them into gods. Unless you deny the existence of sun worship and animism...

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Postby Demonatrix » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:19 pm

Vazdania wrote:le...the evidense is the le multiple accounts of Ghosties!!!!


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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:21 pm

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Vazdania wrote:le...the evidense is the le multiple accounts of Ghosties!!!!


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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:22 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Bottle wrote:That's kind of the point.

By damaging specific areas of the brain, we can eliminate specific functions. If I stab you in the motor cortex, your "spirit" isn't going to magically allow you to continue making voluntary movements. If you suffer a blow to the back of your head that destroys your occipital lobe, you're going to be blind and your "spirit" isn't going to do jack shit for you.

then that part of the brain is dead. The spirit just can't make dead things alive again!

If God made spirits, and God brought Jesus back, why the fuck not?

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:24 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:then that part of the brain is dead. The spirit just can't make dead things alive again!

If God made spirits, and God brought Jesus back, why the fuck not?

because the spirit is not a super ninja god...the spirit is something that inhabits the body and brain that makes it "workable"

dont quote me "its like the electricity in a robot" LOL XD
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:26 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:then that part of the brain is dead. The spirit just can't make dead things alive again!

If God made spirits, and God brought Jesus back, why the fuck not?

also God did not make spirits, they were preexistant. God did not bring back Jesus, the spirit of Jesus came to Earth by itself
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:28 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:If God made spirits, and God brought Jesus back, why the fuck not?

because the spirit is not a super ninja god...the spirit is something that inhabits the body and brain that makes it "workable"

dont quote me "its like the electricity in a robot" LOL XD

So basically, spirit is a metaphor for the human body, since nothing else makes sense without proof? Good to know.
Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:If God made spirits, and God brought Jesus back, why the fuck not?

also God did not make spirits, they were preexistant. God did not bring back Jesus, the spirit of Jesus came to Earth by itself

So spirits can raise the dead? Make up your mind.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:30 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:because the spirit is not a super ninja god...the spirit is something that inhabits the body and brain that makes it "workable"

dont quote me "its like the electricity in a robot" LOL XD

So basically, spirit is a metaphor for the human body, since nothing else makes sense without proof? Good to know. No...without the spirit the body nor brain can be alive
Vazdania wrote:also God did not make spirits, they were preexistant. God did not bring back Jesus, the spirit of Jesus came to Earth by itself

So spirits can raise the dead? Make up your mind.

What??? Jesus did not come back a physical body...he came back as a spirit
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Postby Hallistar » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:31 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:So basically, spirit is a metaphor for the human body, since nothing else makes sense without proof? Good to know. No...without the spirit the body nor brain can be alive

So spirits can raise the dead? Make up your mind.

What??? Jesus did not come back a physical body...he came back as a spirit


soy un confused

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:32 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Vazdania wrote:What??? Jesus did not come back a physical body...he came back as a spirit


soy un confused

Jesus did not come back as a physical person...he came back as a living spirit
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:32 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:So basically, spirit is a metaphor for the human body, since nothing else makes sense without proof? Good to know. No...without the spirit the body nor brain can be alive

So spirits can raise the dead? Make up your mind.

What??? Jesus did not come back a physical body...he came back as a spirit

And where do you draw that conclusion from?

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:34 pm

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Vazdania wrote:What??? Jesus did not come back a physical body...he came back as a spirit

And where do you draw that conclusion from?

Acts
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:36 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:And where do you draw that conclusion from?

Acts

The bible book? So you draw the evidence of this happening, from the book, that the guy's followers wrote... I don't like that evidence.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:39 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Acts

The bible book? So you draw the evidence of this happening, from the book, that the guy's followers wrote... I don't like that evidence.

pufundee to you sir...PUFUNDEE!!!
The Bible is totally legit, how could one book that is "fake" be the worlds leading religion? ALSO fallowing up on that the Qu'ran has similar accounts to the Bible with MINOR differces.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:40 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The bible book? So you draw the evidence of this happening, from the book, that the guy's followers wrote... I don't like that evidence.

pufundee to you sir...PUFUNDEE!!!
The Bible is totally legit, how could one book that is "fake" be the worlds leading religion? ALSO fallowing up on that the Qu'ran has similar accounts to the Bible with MINOR differces.

So you acknowledge the Hindu's as right? And pagans? And whoever else?

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:42 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:pufundee to you sir...PUFUNDEE!!!
The Bible is totally legit, how could one book that is "fake" be the worlds leading religion? ALSO fallowing up on that the Qu'ran has similar accounts to the Bible with MINOR differces.

So you acknowledge the Hindu's as right? And pagans? And whoever else?

Possibly! Hindu's teach the chakras...a connection point of the spirit to the body...also an energy center...pagans....possibly :/
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:45 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:So you acknowledge the Hindu's as right? And pagans? And whoever else?

Possibly! Hindu's teach the chakras...a connection point of the spirit to the body...also an energy center...pagans....possibly :/

Obviously, this is going no where. Like Pilate, I wash my hands of you before this descends into even deeper idiocy.

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Postby Vazdania » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:46 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Possibly! Hindu's teach the chakras...a connection point of the spirit to the body...also an energy center...pagans....possibly :/

Obviously, this is going no where. Like Pilate, I wash my hands of you before this descends into even deeper idiocy.

well that was rude
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:46 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:So you acknowledge the Hindu's as right? And pagans? And whoever else?

Possibly! Hindu's teach the chakras...a connection point of the spirit to the body...also an energy center...pagans....possibly :/

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