Why would god hate an athiest?

[Vazdania]

Fundamental flaw in your fallacy...

Christianity generally does not accept that animals have souls, and they seem to live just fine without them, not 'dead' at all...

Spirits needed to live - Auto Fail...

[/Insane Christer Glove Analogy Argument For Souls]

As a small threadjack for a moment, coincidentally, I lost my faith, what little was left, a few weeks after my dog died, because my priest told me dog's don't go to heaven.

Lol in the Bible, in Genesis in the origional Hebrew it says Nepish Chiyah, meaning living spirit for both Humans and Animals..therefore I believe both humans and Animals have Spirits...Christians who do not believe animals have spirits need to take a look at Genesis over again

[Ceannairceach]

1. Atheism is not a religion
2. Science is not a religion
3. "Achoo" "nothing happens when you die!" "thank you"... Seriously, dont be ridiculous. I'm more likely to say "dont sneeze on me you diseased christer, take your epidemic somewhere else..."
4. Assume the body is a biological organism, not a glove. Since it's not a glove, no need for the invisible spirit hand up your arse telling you what to do...


Prove the existance of 'spirits/souls' before claiming we need them.

1.) Athiesm is the disbelief in a god or gods
2.) its a beleif system...there is no doubt about this, you say it is a way to do things. but science is limited to the physical world. YOU cannot disprove anything that is not physical
3.)?
4.) the body and mind need something to function with, if the spirit leaves the body, then the physical body and mind die

1: No, atheism is a lack of belief. Disbelief is optional to atheists.
2: Science doesn't disprove. It proves. Stop changing the posts. It also isn't belief: Its fact. You can test and prove anything is science, given the resources and time.
3: He's saying you sound like an ass attempting to use that silly sneeze response as an argument against atheists.
4: Prove it before you spout it.

[Vazdania]

contol center of the PHYSICAL body...without our spirit we could not function...nor could we function with only a brain and spirit for very long XD

So by what mechanism does this 'spirit' control the body? And how is it that something that is utterly intangible can be so easily affected by physical substances?

the spirit uses the body and mind,

[Ceannairceach]

So by what mechanism does this 'spirit' control the body? And how is it that something that is utterly intangible can be so easily affected by physical substances?

the spirit uses the body and mind,

If so, prove it.

[Demonatrix]

1.) Athiesm is the disbelief in a god or gods
2.) its a beleif system...there is no doubt about this, you say it is a way to do things. but science is limited to the physical world. YOU cannot disprove anything that is not physical
3.)?
4.) the body and mind need something to function with, if the spirit leaves the body, then the physical body and mind die

1. Atheism is the LACK of belief in gods due to the LACK of evidence for gods...
2. Science is not based on belief but on observable data, and reasoned explanations of that data, which are tested against that data and any new data to see if they are valid. Religion does not do this at all.

4. You have still FAILED to provide any evidence for the existence of these spirits/souls/whatever, until you have evidence, we will continue to make you look ridiculous.

[Vazdania]

1.) Athiesm is the disbelief in a god or gods
2.) its a beleif system...there is no doubt about this, you say it is a way to do things. but science is limited to the physical world. YOU cannot disprove anything that is not physical
3.)?
4.) the body and mind need something to function with, if the spirit leaves the body, then the physical body and mind die

1: No, atheism is a lack of belief. Disbelief is optional to atheists.
2: Science doesn't disprove. It proves. Stop changing the posts. It also isn't belief: Its fact. You can test and prove anything is science, given the resources and time.
3: He's saying you sound like an ass attempting to use that silly sneeze response as an argument against atheists.
4: Prove it before you spout it.

2.) but science is limited to the physical world.

[Avenio]

the spirit uses the body and mind,

Doesn't answer my question. By what mechanism does the 'spirit' control the body?

[Ceannairceach]

1.) Athiesm is the disbelief in a god or gods
2.) its a beleif system...there is no doubt about this, you say it is a way to do things. but science is limited to the physical world. YOU cannot disprove anything that is not physical
3.)?
4.) the body and mind need something to function with, if the spirit leaves the body, then the physical body and mind die

1. Atheism is the LACK of belief in gods due to the LACK of evidence for gods...

Edit: Or the lack of knowledge of the concept of god.

[Hallistar]

I guess god would hate an athiest if its one of those athiests who laughs and mocks him and everything related to him and then goes out of their way to troll theists or something, but i think for the most part its the whole disbelief that means a rejection of the god and if that god really exists then theyd be angry about being rejected or something.

[Bottle]

1: No, atheism is a lack of belief. Disbelief is optional to atheists.
2: Science doesn't disprove. It proves. Stop changing the posts. It also isn't belief: Its fact. You can test and prove anything is science, given the resources and time.
3: He's saying you sound like an ass attempting to use that silly sneeze response as an argument against atheists.
4: Prove it before you spout it.

2.) but science is limited to the physical world.

Science is limited to naturalistic explanations. Critical difference.

[Demonatrix]

[quote="Vazdania";p="7614016"2.) but science is limited to the physical world.[/quote]

Provide evidence there is any other kind of world... Oops you can't can you, Auto-Fail again, bad luck try again in another life eh...

[Vazdania]

the spirit uses the body and mind,

If so, prove it.

who are you? what are you?
what makes you...you?
a collection of your 5 senses? that is limiting you cant walk...but you can
your brain? nope....the brain can die then come back to life example Coma's
Your body? nope! That is not really conciousness now is it?

what are you? your a spirit that lets your brain be active

[Vazdania]

[quote="Vazdania";p="7614016"2.) but science is limited to the physical world.

Provide evidence there is any other kind of world... Oops you can't can you, Auto-Fail again, bad luck try again in another life eh...[/quote]
prove to me thier isn't

[Demonatrix]

I guess god would hate an athiest if its one of those athiests who laughs and mocks him and everything related to him and then goes out of their way to troll theists or something, but i think for the most part its the whole disbelief that means a rejection of the god and if that god really exists then theyd be angry about being rejected or something.

Lucky for me I'm not one of those Ath-i-ests then isn't it, glad I'm an Atheist instead...

[Vazdania]

1. Atheism is the LACK of belief in gods due to the LACK of evidence for gods...

Edit: Or the lack of knowledge of the concept of god.

but not really....I mean you do have most people underdeveloped peoples believeing in something larger than themselves or Earth

[Bottle]

Edit: Or the lack of knowledge of the concept of god.

but not really....I mean you do have most people underdeveloped peoples believeing in something larger than themselves or Earth

I'm an atheist, and I believe in many things larger than myself, as well as many things larger than Earth.

[Ceannairceach]

If so, prove it.

who are you? what are you?
what makes you...you?
a collection of your 5 senses? that is limiting you cant walk...but you can
your brain? nope....the brain can die then come back to life example Coma's
Your body? nope! That is not really conciousness now is it?

what are you? your a spirit that lets your brain be active

Oh, wrong, sorry. My brain, that allows for human consciousness and personality, makes me what I am: Ceann, the human. Considering it is the brain, not the spirit, that is the target of lobotomies, your argument is invalid.

[Vazdania]

the spirit uses the body and mind,

Doesn't answer my question. By what mechanism does the 'spirit' control the body?

mchanism? the spirit can use le everything!

[Ceannairceach]

Edit: Or the lack of knowledge of the concept of god.

but not really....I mean you do have most people underdeveloped peoples believeing in something larger than themselves or Earth

Yes, most would call it the "sun", but you can call it whatever you wish, I suppose.

[Vazdania]

who are you? what are you?
what makes you...you?
a collection of your 5 senses? that is limiting you cant walk...but you can
your brain? nope....the brain can die then come back to life example Coma's
Your body? nope! That is not really conciousness now is it?

what are you? your a spirit that lets your brain be active

Oh, wrong, sorry. My brain, that allows for human consciousness and personality, makes me what I am: Ceann, the human. Considering it is the brain, not the spirit, that is the target of lobotomies, your argument is invalid.

lobotomies still allow the rest of the brain to be active though. Full frontal screw with the Frontal lobe... the other type just severs the hemisheres

[Demonatrix]

Provide evidence there is any other kind of world... Oops you can't can you, Auto-Fail again, bad luck try again in another life eh...

prove to me thier isn't

You make the claim for a non physical world, you provide the evidence to support that claim, no evidence, no reason to believe...

[Ceannairceach]

prove to me thier isn't

Can't prove a negative, sorry. Its your duty to prove the existence of a deity if you want us to accept your position as factual. Until then, disbelief or lack of belief is an acceptable, and probable, position.

[Vazdania]

but not really....I mean you do have most people underdeveloped peoples believeing in something larger than themselves or Earth

Yes, most would call it the "sun", but you can call it whatever you wish, I suppose.

-_- why you so critical??? I am refering of course to a god or gods

[Mata Nui]

i fail to see what this accomplishes, for neither side is going to crave in

[Vazdania]

prove to me thier isn't

Can't prove a negative, sorry. Its your duty to prove the existence of a deity if you want us to accept your position as factual. Until then, disbelief or lack of belief is an acceptable, and probable, position.

or or or we could be like the people looking for the Panda's!!!! or the Gorilla's!!!!