What do you think about the war in Iraq?

[Latianus]

Is it right or wrong??

[Galloism]

Morally neutral, but a fucking bad idea.

[Ravea]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

[Lizardiar]

Its wrong that we've stayed over there so long but, I think that we should at least finish the job before we run home and let politicians tell the people that America can never win again.

[Parthenon]

I wish it was larger.

[Lizardiar]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

911 wasn't a good reason? We told them "Give us Al Qaeda ." They didn't. We gave them a time limit and they only endorsed the attack.

[Secruss]

Guerrilla warfare is always the US' weakpoint.

When the government of Iraq wants us to leave, I think that's a good sign we can begin leaving.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

It's a bit late, don't you think?

But I'll say now what i said then: The timing was awful. The UN was unconvinced that there was an imminent threat, most of our allies in NATO were unconvinced of an imminent threat and several middle-eastern allies were in talks with Saddam Hussein to step down and accept exile. Despite the evidence, there was no reason to believe that the war couldn't have waited a year or two. There was plenty of time to pull better intel, to convince our allies and form a stronger coalition dedicated to removing the threat the Iraqi leader posed.

Little did I know then that the 'evidence' was completely manufactured. We went in on false pretenses. We completely ignored the fact that diplomatic solutions were not yet exhausted and invaded a nation out of pure spite. Worse; we turned our much-needed attention from a war that DID matter in order to fight one that didn't.

[Saige Dragon]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

911 wasn't a good reason? We told them "Give us Al Qaeda ." They didn't. We gave them a time limit and they only endorsed the attack.

I thought you told them, "Show us yer nukes, lolz." They didn't... 'cause they didn't have any.

[Ravea]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

911 wasn't a good reason? We told them "Give us Al Qaeda ." They didn't. We gave them a time limit and they only endorsed the attack.

Um.

Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9/11. And apparently disliked the hell out of Al Qaeda.

[Bavin]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

911 wasn't a good reason? We told them "Give us Al Qaeda ." They didn't. We gave them a time limit and they only endorsed the attack.

Whatever you are smoking, please stop. First off, Dick Cheney even admitted that Al Qaeda wasn't operating in Iraq prior to our invasion. Second, we invaded because of faulty intelligence from the CIA that said Saddam had nuclear weapons. And now North Korea has nukes, and we are doing nothing...

[Secruss]

I'd make a crack about Obama being a pansy about the toleration of NK's nukes, but it's way too early.

[Ravea]

I wish it was larger.

How do you mean?

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Questionable in its legality, one of the biggest foreign policy blunders in recent (if not all) US history, one of the most diplomatically damaging decisions in US history; US should stay until the Iraqi government tells them to bugger off, and until the nation is back to its pre-war status (e.g. infrastructure) the US and its "coalition of the willing" is morally and financially responsible.

[Lizardiar]

Ok, I guess I'll stop arguing with you guys so you can be right all the time. I am going to be blasted by hundreds of replies as soon as i say something and I guess I'll stop trying.

[Saige Dragon]

I wish it was larger.

That's what she said.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

I'd make a crack about Obama being a pansy about the toleration of NK's nukes, but it's way too early.

Or way too late considering that NK's nuclear policy has been mostly ignored for the last 6 or 7 years.

[Parthenon]

I wish it was larger.

How do you mean?

Wars that are properly executed and of a size which involves an entire nation's populus are good for economics, troop moral, and the citizenry's patriotism.

[Saige Dragon]

Ok, I guess I'll stop arguing with you guys so you can be right all the time. I am going to be blasted by hundreds of replies as soon as i say something and I guess I'll stop trying.

Argue all you want. Maybe, however, you should try backing your argument up with fact and not ludicrous statements.

[Dystopian Polymarchy]

As much as I am for helping Iraq, we went to war under false pretenses. It was, and is, very wrong. That being said, It's a much more complicated situation than just "We have to leave" or "We have to stay."

911 wasn't a good reason? We told them "Give us Al Qaeda ." They didn't. We gave them a time limit and they only endorsed the attack.

I thought you told them, "Show us yer nukes, lolz." They didn't... 'cause they didn't have any.

They just wanted to scare another country. It worked... sort of.

[Lizardiar]

Even when I give up you still blast me?

[Bavin]

I'd make a crack about Obama being a pansy about the toleration of NK's nukes, but it's way too early.

Or way too late considering that NK's nuclear policy has been mostly ignored for the last 6 or 7 years.

Well, its hard to force their hand. A military strike could have disastrous repercussions for SK and Japan. Iraq was different. Saddam may have been an a**, but he was mostly sane. Kim, not so much. Don't forget when Kim kicks the bucket, then the military takes over...

[Ravea]

I wish it was larger.

How do you mean?

Wars that are properly executed and of a size which involves an entire nation's populus are good for economics, troop moral, and the citizenry's patriotism.

Just because a war is properly executed doesn't mean it's morally or legally right.

[Secruss]

The thing is... I think Kim is trying to bilk more out of the oil-for-nukes deal that Bush negotiated. Like protection money, but not quite.

[Parthenon]

Just because a war is properly executed doesn't mean it's morally or legally right.

It's morally right to use nerve agents on your own people as Saddam did?

Also, there is nothing illegal about the military actions in Iraq or Afghanistan; find some new talking points that are founded on a solid framework.