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by Gauntleted Fist » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:23 pm

by Chrobalta » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:24 pm

by Anime Daisuki » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm
Rikese wrote:He got results and erased the competition, even if it meant flattening bystanders. It's what empires do.

by Rikese » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm
Anime Daisuki wrote:Reagan was great. If he was still president now we'll have a lot less drug users and crime.
United Russian States wrote:Thrid Russia is moving towards an much larger force consiting of all volanteer soilders.
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:do you even expect for a minute i'd want to discuss anything further with you if you continue to show no respect to my opinions?

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:26 pm
Anime Daisuki wrote:Reagan was great. If he was still president now we'll have a lot less drug users and crime.


by Allied Governments » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:27 pm

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:28 pm
Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.


by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:29 pm


by Chrobalta » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 pm
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.
I take it you're not rich?


by Allied Governments » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 pm

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:33 pm
Gauntleted Fist wrote:Very little. (I wasn't alive for almost all of his life.)

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:34 pm

by Greed and Death » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:34 pm

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:40 pm
greed and death wrote:Domestic policy he was great. saved the middle and working classes.
solved the inflation problem and got taxes automatically adjusted for inflation. Prior to that Bracket creep was killing everyone income.
Foreign policy wise he was too prone to send the CIA on foreign governments.

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:43 pm
Chrobalta wrote:Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.
I take it you're not rich?
No I am not


by You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:47 pm

by You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:51 pm

by Greed and Death » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:51 pm
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:greed and death wrote:Domestic policy he was great. saved the middle and working classes.
solved the inflation problem and got taxes automatically adjusted for inflation. Prior to that Bracket creep was killing everyone income.
Foreign policy wise he was too prone to send the CIA on foreign governments.
He did cut unemloyment & greatly reduce inflation, but he put CEO's as the head of the social programs Carter (with Nader) created to help protect US citizens as well.

by Neo-Erusea » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:53 pm
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I grew up during some frightening Cold War years.
As a child in school, our classes practiced hiding under our desks for the shockwave of atomic bombs that didn't vaporize us instantly.
Department stores had radiolgical signs in their basements that identified those places as bomb shelters.
Every now and then, the television news would show troops and missiles massing in the Red Square.
We grew up in an atmosphere of terror.
Through the end of the 60's and to the mid 70's, I learned to cope with my fears.
In the mid 70's, The U.S.A. turned it's back on South Viet Nam when North Viet Nam broke the peace treaty. OPEC began manipulation of the oil markets and even stopped production because of apparent political ideological differences. The U.S. then turned it's back on the Shah of Iran and allowed the religiously incensed revolution of the Ayatollahs. For this non-interference, Iran kidnapped American citizens and one failed attempt at rescue was made. Americans were feeling so ill-used, there was frequent use of a poll called, "the misery index".
I wasn't a big believer in Ronald Reagan when he was first running for the office of President. I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him. I had felt like a wave-man, not a true ronin or masterless samurai, but like a piece of flotsam. I began to believe in him, in spite of most of my friends dismissal and hatred of him. When he spoke, I believed in his sincerity of purpose. Here was this old man who inspired me to face down my fears, and believe in both my fellow American and in myself.
I voted for his re-election in 1984.

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:00 pm

by Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:02 pm
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I grew up during some frightening Cold War years.
As a child in school, our classes practiced hiding under our desks for the shockwave of atomic bombs that didn't vaporize us instantly.
Department stores had radiolgical signs in their basements that identified those places as bomb shelters.
Every now and then, the television news would show troops and missiles massing in the Red Square.
We grew up in an atmosphere of terror.
Through the end of the 60's and to the mid 70's, I learned to cope with my fears.
In the mid 70's, The U.S.A. turned it's back on South Viet Nam when North Viet Nam broke the peace treaty. OPEC began manipulation of the oil markets and even stopped production because of apparent political ideological differences. The U.S. then turned it's back on the Shah of Iran and allowed the religiously incensed revolution of the Ayatollahs. For this non-interference, Iran kidnapped American citizens and one failed attempt at rescue was made. Americans were feeling so ill-used, there was frequent use of a poll called, "the misery index".
I wasn't a big believer in Ronald Reagan when he was first running for the office of President. I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him. I had felt like a wave-man, not a true ronin or masterless samurai, but like a piece of flotsam. I began to believe in him, in spite of most of my friends dismissal and hatred of him. When he spoke, I believed in his sincerity of purpose. Here was this old man who inspired me to face down my fears, and believe in both my fellow American and in myself.
I voted for his re-election in 1984.
by New Genoa » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:07 pm
You-Gi-Owe wrote: I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him.

by You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:11 pm
by New Genoa » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:13 pm
You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Go ahead and believe that. There was no point in adding more humiation to Carter after he was defeated by Reagan, yet the hostages were not released until just before the inauguration.
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