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Reagan...Friend or Foe?

He took St Peter's watch at the gates of heaven
17
10%
Great President, Great Actor
24
14%
Great President, Bad Actor
9
5%
Defeated the USSR & put the USA in great debt
22
13%
Great Actor, Bad President
17
10%
Bad President, Bad Actor
49
28%
The Darth Vador of El Salvador
20
12%
I think I'm Ronald Reagan, I just can't remember
15
9%
 
Total votes : 173

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Re: What did Ronald Reagan mean too you & why?

Postby Gauntleted Fist » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:23 pm

Very little. (I wasn't alive for almost all of his life.)

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Postby Chrobalta » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:24 pm

He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.
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Postby Anime Daisuki » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm

Reagan was great. If he was still president now we'll have a lot less drug users and crime.

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm

Rikese wrote:He got results and erased the competition, even if it meant flattening bystanders. It's what empires do.

Very true. The US would not have enjoyed 20+ years of being the only superpower without him.

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Postby Rikese » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:25 pm

Anime Daisuki wrote:Reagan was great. If he was still president now we'll have a lot less drug users and crime.


I sincerely hope that is sarcasm.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:26 pm

Anime Daisuki wrote:Reagan was great. If he was still president now we'll have a lot less drug users and crime.

But he would smell very bad! :rofl:
But seriously, I guess you are refering to Nancy's anti drug war?
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Postby Allied Governments » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:27 pm

Thinking of Reagan gives me a boner.

In the good way, mind you.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:28 pm

Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.

I take it you're not rich? :p

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:29 pm

Allied Governments wrote:Thinking of Reagan gives me a boner.

In the good way, mind you.

I hope not because he's dead & therefore willing? :lol:

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Postby Chrobalta » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.

I take it you're not rich? :p

No I am not :P
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Postby Allied Governments » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:31 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:Thinking of Reagan gives me a boner.

In the good way, mind you.

I hope not because he's dead & therefore willing? :lol:


No, because he's a badass.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:33 pm

Gauntleted Fist wrote:Very little. (I wasn't alive for almost all of his life.)

The current economic & political state of the world today has a lot to do with the roots of his presidency.

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:34 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Image
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Just for Allied Gov'ts :p

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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:34 pm

Domestic policy he was great. saved the middle and working classes.
solved the inflation problem and got taxes automatically adjusted for inflation. Prior to that Bracket creep was killing everyone income.
Foreign policy wise he was too prone to send the CIA on foreign governments.
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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:40 pm

greed and death wrote:Domestic policy he was great. saved the middle and working classes.
solved the inflation problem and got taxes automatically adjusted for inflation. Prior to that Bracket creep was killing everyone income.
Foreign policy wise he was too prone to send the CIA on foreign governments.

He did cut unemloyment & greatly reduce inflation, but he put CEO's as the head of the social programs Carter (with Nader) created to help protect US citizens as well.

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:43 pm

Chrobalta wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:He destroyed working people and the middle class. His policies benefited the rich. Iran-Contra affair was criminal in my mind. Not to mention putting us on the bubble-burst economic cycle, turning us from the largest lender of money in the world to the largest debtor.... He rates low in my books.

I take it you're not rich? :p

No I am not :P

I'm not either. With a flag called Cherokee Braves, could you guess? but I hope you liked my joke. :)
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:47 pm

I grew up during some frightening Cold War years.
As a child in school, our classes practiced hiding under our desks for the shockwave of atomic bombs that didn't vaporize us instantly.
Department stores had radiolgical signs in their basements that identified those places as bomb shelters.
Every now and then, the television news would show troops and missiles massing in the Red Square.
We grew up in an atmosphere of terror.

Through the end of the 60's and to the mid 70's, I learned to cope with my fears.

In the mid 70's, The U.S.A. turned it's back on South Viet Nam when North Viet Nam broke the peace treaty. OPEC began manipulation of the oil markets and even stopped production because of apparent political ideological differences. The U.S. then turned it's back on the Shah of Iran and allowed the religiously incensed revolution of the Ayatollahs. For this non-interference, Iran kidnapped American citizens and one failed attempt at rescue was made. Americans were feeling so ill-used, there was frequent use of a poll called, "the misery index".

I wasn't a big believer in Ronald Reagan when he was first running for the office of President. I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him. I had felt like a wave-man, not a true ronin or masterless samurai, but like a piece of flotsam. I began to believe in him, in spite of most of my friends dismissal and hatred of him. When he spoke, I believed in his sincerity of purpose. Here was this old man who inspired me to face down my fears, and believe in both my fellow American and in myself.

I voted for his re-election in 1984.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:51 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Image
:eyebrow: Don't Mess with the Big Gipper :eyebrow:

Just for Allied Gov'ts :p

I actually have issues #2 and #3. Never could find a copy of #1. "Sigh".
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:51 pm

Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
greed and death wrote:Domestic policy he was great. saved the middle and working classes.
solved the inflation problem and got taxes automatically adjusted for inflation. Prior to that Bracket creep was killing everyone income.
Foreign policy wise he was too prone to send the CIA on foreign governments.

He did cut unemloyment & greatly reduce inflation, but he put CEO's as the head of the social programs Carter (with Nader) created to help protect US citizens as well.

and ushered in the longest period of growth in US history.
Never mind he killed carters dream of making the tax code more progressive(top income earners were taxed at 70% during carter and he wanted more progressiveness)
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Postby Neo-Erusea » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:53 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:I grew up during some frightening Cold War years.
As a child in school, our classes practiced hiding under our desks for the shockwave of atomic bombs that didn't vaporize us instantly.
Department stores had radiolgical signs in their basements that identified those places as bomb shelters.
Every now and then, the television news would show troops and missiles massing in the Red Square.
We grew up in an atmosphere of terror.

Through the end of the 60's and to the mid 70's, I learned to cope with my fears.

In the mid 70's, The U.S.A. turned it's back on South Viet Nam when North Viet Nam broke the peace treaty. OPEC began manipulation of the oil markets and even stopped production because of apparent political ideological differences. The U.S. then turned it's back on the Shah of Iran and allowed the religiously incensed revolution of the Ayatollahs. For this non-interference, Iran kidnapped American citizens and one failed attempt at rescue was made. Americans were feeling so ill-used, there was frequent use of a poll called, "the misery index".

I wasn't a big believer in Ronald Reagan when he was first running for the office of President. I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him. I had felt like a wave-man, not a true ronin or masterless samurai, but like a piece of flotsam. I began to believe in him, in spite of most of my friends dismissal and hatred of him. When he spoke, I believed in his sincerity of purpose. Here was this old man who inspired me to face down my fears, and believe in both my fellow American and in myself.

I voted for his re-election in 1984.


Again, as I put before. How funny things can be so different for people.

Your vote, I understand where you were coming from, but still it killed about half of my family.

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:00 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:
Tsa-la-gi Nation wrote:Image
:eyebrow: Don't Mess with the Big Gipper :eyebrow:

Just for Allied Gov'ts :p

I actually have issues #2 and #3. Never could find a copy of #1. "Sigh".

I may have one. If you're a comic fan, write to me on my comic thread on the fiction forum! ;)

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Postby Tsa-la-gi Nation » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:02 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:I grew up during some frightening Cold War years.
As a child in school, our classes practiced hiding under our desks for the shockwave of atomic bombs that didn't vaporize us instantly.
Department stores had radiolgical signs in their basements that identified those places as bomb shelters.
Every now and then, the television news would show troops and missiles massing in the Red Square.
We grew up in an atmosphere of terror.

Through the end of the 60's and to the mid 70's, I learned to cope with my fears.

In the mid 70's, The U.S.A. turned it's back on South Viet Nam when North Viet Nam broke the peace treaty. OPEC began manipulation of the oil markets and even stopped production because of apparent political ideological differences. The U.S. then turned it's back on the Shah of Iran and allowed the religiously incensed revolution of the Ayatollahs. For this non-interference, Iran kidnapped American citizens and one failed attempt at rescue was made. Americans were feeling so ill-used, there was frequent use of a poll called, "the misery index".

I wasn't a big believer in Ronald Reagan when he was first running for the office of President. I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him. I had felt like a wave-man, not a true ronin or masterless samurai, but like a piece of flotsam. I began to believe in him, in spite of most of my friends dismissal and hatred of him. When he spoke, I believed in his sincerity of purpose. Here was this old man who inspired me to face down my fears, and believe in both my fellow American and in myself.

I voted for his re-election in 1984.

Although I was an 80's kid, You bring up a good point that kids today have no idea what it's like to live under nucular threat & that's BIG. With that being said, I do believe my father's generation had never known a reason not to trust government propaganda until after Vietnam.
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Postby New Genoa » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:07 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote: I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him.


Reagan didn't do anything to get the hostages released. They were released to humiliate Jimmy Carter who had been trying to get their release for some time.
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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:11 pm

New Genoa wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote: I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him.


Reagan didn't do anything to get the hostages released. They were released to humiliate Jimmy Carter who had been trying to get their release for some time.

Go ahead and believe that. There was no point in adding more humiation to Carter after he was defeated by Reagan, yet the hostages were not released until just before the inauguration.
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Postby New Genoa » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:13 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
New Genoa wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote: I don't know how he did it, but when the hostages were released from Iran, he got me to notice him.


Reagan didn't do anything to get the hostages released. They were released to humiliate Jimmy Carter who had been trying to get their release for some time.

Go ahead and believe that. There was no point in adding more humiation to Carter after he was defeated by Reagan, yet the hostages were not released until just before the inauguration.


It's called adding insult to injury. And besides, Reagan STILL had nothing to do with their release.
Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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