Should Britain Be in the EU

[Post-Unity Terra]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined. Both Economically and Culturally.

Our economy's shit anyway and there's no such thing as British culture. Ask a Scot about British culture.

[Fartsniffage]

I wanted to vote for "Yes, they're trying to turn Britain into a province" but it's not on the list.

Seriously though, don't be antisocial, Europe is good for you!

I would argue that we're good for Europe.

After all, without the UK where would France dump it's unwanted asylum seekers, Germany sell it's beer considered unfit for local consumption and Spain sell it's cheap holidays?

[Yootopia]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined. Both Economically and Culturally.

Our economy's shit anyway

Err it's in a pretty good shape. Certainly done better in the recession than the Germans and the like.

[Yootopia]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined.

You don't watch much news, do you?

[Colonic Immigration]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined. Both Economically and Culturally.

Our economy's shit anyway

Err it's in a pretty good shape. Certainly done better in the recession than the Germans and the like.

Yeah but they're on the mend faster than we are.

[New Britanniaa]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined.

You don't watch much news, do you?

I do actually... and perhaps I should have said we would be even more ruined than we already are...

[Yootopia]

Britain should not be in the EU cos if we were we would be ruined.

You don't watch much news, do you?

I do actually... and perhaps I should have said we would be even more ruined than we already are...

... right... right...

You know we joined the EU in 1973, yeah?

[Colonic Immigration]

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You don't watch much news, do you?

I do actually... and perhaps I should have said we would be even more ruined than we already are...

... right... right...

You know we joined the EU in 1973, yeah?

Technically it was '93. But, I'll give you the EEC or whatever it was called back ten.

[New Britanniaa]

Well that's just a technicality.... we haven't actually fully joined the EU because we haven't adopted many of the commands given to us from Brussels.

[Post-Unity Terra]

The EU is a good thing for us unless we want to be completely irrelevant in the future.

[Yootopia]

Well that's just a technicality.... we haven't actually fully joined the EU because we haven't adopted many of the commands given to us from Brussels.

... wut...

[Maurepas]

Don't do it britain. Don't end up like Texas.

He may have a point....noone really wants to end up like Texas,

[New Britanniaa]

Ok let me just put my feelings into a compact statement... f*** the EU!

[Gruesome Evil]

can some one please tel me all the counties in the EU, and yes britain should join

[New Britanniaa]

France, Germany, Spain, Belgium, Poland, Czech Republic, Greece, Italy, soon to be Turkey...
there are more but i remember who they are....

[Zehr-Brunswick]

BRITAIN IS IN THE EU!

[Yootopia]

can some one please tel me all the counties in the EU

http://europa.eu/abc/european_countries ... dex_en.htm

and yes britain should join

IT ALREADY HAS. IT JOINED THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY OVER 35 YEARS AGO. JESUS H CHRIST.

Ok let me just put my feelings into a compact statement... f*** the EU!

Why -_-

[Colonic Immigration]

can some one please tel me all the counties in the EU, and yes britain should join

Join? Are you people trying to appear stupid on purpose?

[Colonic Immigration]

Well that's just a technicality.... we haven't actually fully joined the EU because we haven't adopted many of the commands given to us from Brussels.

Fail. That is all.

[North Suran]

He actually said that about the Soviet Union not the British Empire...

You are aware of what the term "paraphrase" means, right?

[Free Lofeta]

Yes!

Britain needs to integrate more with the EU, play a very active role in reforming the Union to make it more democratic and ultimately, more unified. Whilst a Federal Europe will probably not happen in any of our lifetime's (but is, eventually ineveitable), a common European foreign policy would empower Europeans to have a genuine say in how a globalised world is run. Otherwise our division will cost us our voice, and we (Britain) will always be little more than an accented arm of American influence.

As for national identity:
Your national identity does not need to be defined by your government. It is an extention of personal identity, and that can be whatever you chose it to be. National pride and heritage can be part of a well-formed self-image, but ultimately it must be rational pragmatism that we use to decide how we govern ourselves. And rationally, a more unified Europe is the only viable option.

[New Kereptica]

He actually said that about the Soviet Union not the British Empire...

You are aware of what the term "paraphrase" means, right?

A paraphrase is a restatement of an idea using different words. It's arguable whether you did that or not.

[North Suran]

To paraphrase Vladimir Putin:
"Whoever does not miss the British Empire has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain."

You quoted Vladamir Putin. Wow, so what? I don't miss the British Empire.

He's obsessed with Russians.

What, because I refute URS' claims?

In that case, you must be obsessed with Scots, since you are always following and quoting me.

[Pure Metal]

"Yes" for options 5, 6 and 7.
i don't really give much of a toss about our national identity*, and national sovereignity is long-gone in the modern, multilateral, multidependent world economy/political arena.

* though, as someone up there said, your national identity is your culture and who/what the people identify themselves with... not who your government is. though self-determination is always essential, so a Federalised system of a more unified Europe would be preferable.

[Waterlow]

The EU is a dreadful, corrupt, venal, excessively bureaucratic, inconsistent, hypocritical, risible institution. But it's all we got and I think it's better that we're in it than not. And we should definitely sign up to Schengen.

Sad and predictable to see that much of the British commentary has turned into England vs Scotland vs Wales vs Northern Ireland wang-waving. Colonic Immigration in particular would, I think, benefit from thinking a bit more before posting.