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Should we allow nudism?

No. It is just wrong
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20%
Yes but only in some selected appropriate place(beach)
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Yes everywhere
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Gelgisith
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Gelgisith » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:40 am

Barringtonia wrote:For me, I'm just not sure I want to walk around all day with a boner. Would I eventually become immune to the natural reaction on seeing sexual organs, eyes rubbed raw with familiarity, maybe but there would still be an adjustment period.

You've obviously never been to a nudist place. Believe me, they are very non-erotic. Try it sometime. (Unless of course you blunder into a 'nudist' swingers place...)

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That's what properly educated nudists use towels for.
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Virtud Tierra
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Virtud Tierra » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:41 am

You know what would make the seat cover idea even better? If it covered the front and they wore it around their waist all the time while in public.

That way daylaborers and suck don't get sunburn on their balls.

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Rentalia
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Rentalia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:42 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.



well in some european country topless is legal and i have never heard of this problem
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Chimaea
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Chimaea » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:43 am

I don't think 'naturism' should be called 'naturism'. Period.

Being nude is not a natural state for mankind o.O I mean, look at how we've evolved all over the planet--we've evolved to wear clothes, down to the basic loincloth or furs. Clothes are natural. I mean, we live in a pretty dangerous world and we don't have protective fur (ok, some people seem to be pretty hairy but it ain't the same!), so we need clothing.

To call nudism 'naturism' just doesn't seem correct.


Aside from that... no I don't think nudism should be allowed everywhere. They have a right to dangle, I have a right not to see it. And since this is my opinion, I win! Yay!

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Cabra West
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:44 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Think of it like this - that already happens, and she doesn't need to be topless.
Would you advocate burqas to avoid accidents like this in the future?
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EvilDarkMagicians
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:44 am

Rentalia wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.



well in some european country topless is legal and i have never heard of this problem


Not in the streets it isn't. ;)

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Barringtonia
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Barringtonia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:44 am

Gelgisith wrote:You've obviously never been to a nudist place.


I've seen pictures of the sort of people who do,

Believe me, they are very non-erotic.


Yes, that was my thought

Try it sometime. (Unless of course you blunder into a 'nudist' swingers place...)


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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:46 am

Katganistan wrote:2) It's dangerous. Drop a cup of hot coffee on yourself; without some buffer, you're going to get burned.


Actually, it's more dangerous to pour hot liquid over clothed areas of your body. The fabric holds the temperature just this much longer, and thus will make your burns that much worse.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Colonic Immigration
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:46 am

Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Think of it like this - that already happens, and she doesn't need to be topless.
Would you advocate burqas to avoid accidents like this in the future?

No.

Would you really want children to be exposed to saggy old men?
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:47 am

Most people would still wear clothes....so what is the point?
Most people don't like to see others naked, we have sex with our sexual organs
there is a reason why keep them covered (Most of the time).
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Barringtonia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:47 am

Chimaea wrote:... I mean, we live in a pretty dangerous world and we don't have protective fur (ok, some people seem to be pretty hairy but it ain't the same!), so we need clothing.


I bet the lion that leaps the thorny bush a touch low wishes it wore clothes as well,

It must happen, total rippage,
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They'll learn much more than I'll ever know
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Cabra West
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:No.

Would you really want children to be exposed to saggy old men?


What's the problem with that?
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Colonic Immigration
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 am

Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:No.

Would you really want children to be exposed to saggy old men?


What's the problem with that?

You don't see one? :blink:
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Issas
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Issas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.

Then that's the guy's fault for not being able to pay better attention to the road.

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Katganistan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Why is it that guys think that other guys are so beyond stupid that they will crash because they see a naked girl? Why is it that women don't think guys are this unable to control themselves?

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Lucky Bicycle Works
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Postby Lucky Bicycle Works » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:48 am

Yes to nudity. By anyone, anywhere, and any time.

It doesn't harm me, and anyone who thinks it harms them needs a lesson in what the fuck is their business.

Your body, your business.
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Meoton
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:50 am


And nothing. People ought to be allowed to show however much or little of themselves they want.
Just because some people are ugly as fuck is no reason to legally force everyone to wear clothes... especially since clothes usually don't improve the problem one bit.

Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.

I guy is driving down the road and gets distracted by a hot babe in spandex causing him to crash.
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Postby Rentalia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:50 am

Chimaea wrote:
Being nude is not a natural state for mankind o.O


it's not true there are tribes in amazzonia or africa that use to wear nothing all day still today

yeah there are only a few but because most of american/africa/oceanic population suffered from enforced christianization(or islamization) during the colonization process that destroyed most of tribal ancience tradition and enforced western catholic(and in some part islamic) values
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Issas
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Issas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:51 am

Katganistan wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Why is it that guys think that other guys are so beyond stupid that they will crash because they see a naked girl? Why is it that women don't think guys are this unable to control themselves?

Most guys are able to control themselves. But I'm sure there is one idiot in this world who would. He, however, should not be driving anyway.
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Cabra West
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:51 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:No.

Would you really want children to be exposed to saggy old men?


What's the problem with that?

You don't see one? :blink:


Nope.

When I was a kid, we spent most of our holidays either in then-Yugoslavia, or on the Baltic. Most beaches there are nudist. I have to say, we absolutely loved it, no need to worry about what to wear, no freezing in wet swim suits when there's a bit of wind...
And believe it or not, seeing someone naked isn't very different from seeing them clothed. I never understood why some people are so shocked about the fact that old people get wrinkly skin, or that people do in fact have genitals....
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:51 am

I've almost gotten whiplash from spying a hot body out the corner of my eye.
Clothes don't prevent that.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:54 am

Katganistan wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Why is it that guys think that other guys are so beyond stupid that they will crash because they see a naked girl? Why is it that women don't think guys are this unable to control themselves?


That reminds of that advert they had to take off Billboards because women kept getting distracted by an advert which showed muscular men with bulging underpants. It would probably happen if they saw a real man with his penis hanging at aswell.

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Chimaea » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:58 am

Rentalia wrote:it's not true there are tribes in amazzonia or africa that use to wear nothing all day still today

yeah there are only a few but because most of american/africa/oceanic population suffered from enforced christianization(or islamization) during the colonization process that destroyed most of tribal ancience tradition and enforced western catholic(and in some part islamic) values


Yes of course, in warmer/tropical climes there is a greater deal of nudity. But I'm still willing to wager an imaginary pot of gold that they had some clothing even so. Even if it's ceremonial, even if it's worn at night, or when they're sick, or when the ladies are menstruating...

Also, Western Catholic and Islamist values also have had to evolve from somewhere. Calling them 'unnatural' is silly. Calling them painful, boring, annoying and stupid is fair enough. But 'unnatural' they are not!
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:01 am

Clothing. Like those penis shafts that some south american tribes wear.
I'm sure they are only wearing those to be modest.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Lucky Bicycle Works » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:01 am

Katganistan wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.


Why is it that guys think that other guys are so beyond stupid that they will crash because they see a naked girl? Why is it that women don't think guys are this unable to control themselves?


Hey, you have the "online" bandoleer on your avatar.

:hug:

Hugs in a nice, brotherly way of course.
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To where Caution
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