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Naturism should be legal. Period

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Should we allow nudism?

No. It is just wrong
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20%
Yes but only in some selected appropriate place(beach)
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44%
Yes everywhere
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Rentalia
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Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Rentalia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:11 am

I'm not a naturist but I don't see why someone and the law should force someone to wear cloth.

We think there is something wrong in "those body parts" because we are trained like that from childhood in the same way that muslim women are brainwashed that there is something wrong to reveal their form or their hair

some common objection

a)You are a pervent....you just should see naked chicks!

No i'm no a pervent and i know that for every naturist "chicks" there should be 9 man and 6 fat old lady naturist. I just want to defend the rights of a minority(naturist)

b)If we legalize nudism the world will be a immense immoral orgy

no naturist will continue to be a minority. IN catalonia naturism is legal and see someone walking naked is uncommon

c)Who think about the children?

Nude is natural. I don't mind if my daughter or my sister see a nude guy.I mind if my daughter or my sister see an Anorexic top model and want to become like her
There are more much more immoral thing like TV show where children are tought to be greedy materialistic consumistic drone,film with random explicit sex scenes or conservative propaganda that teach children that war is something to be proud of
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Postby Virtud Tierra » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:14 am

This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Dimoniquid » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:16 am

Do I have to?

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Postby Issas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:18 am

Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.

Thanks for that image :shock:

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Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:18 am

Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.

Clothes hold just as many, if not more germs.
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Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:19 am

I remember an old saying, "Spandex is a privilege, not a right."
The same may be true of Naturism.
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Postby Virtud Tierra » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:22 am

Meoton wrote:
Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.

Clothes hold just as many, if not more germs.


Eh, even really funky clothes are less contagious then infected fluids.

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Postby Barringtonia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:24 am

Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.


Technically the hands are the most dangerous part of the body, we interact with everything using them, they're naked.

Possibly people would be a little cleaner if they were naked, skidded underwear is concealed, maybe people would wipe more.

For me, I'm just not sure I want to walk around all day with a boner. Would I eventually become immune to the natural reaction on seeing sexual organs, eyes rubbed raw with familiarity, maybe but there would still be an adjustment period.

Imagine meeting an attractive client and just standing to attention, it would ruin any negotiation strengths I have, ruined on meeting, how can I bargain effectively if she knows I'm totally attracted to her,

Bit more honest I suppose, no ritual dance of dating, no game of show and tell,

Connects to that other eternal question: why do people streak at stadiums?

EDIT: Can you imagine the Senate, all those Republican senators with repressed homosexuality, terrible, chaos.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:26 am

Excuse me if I prefer not to share seating with someone whose anus is leaking.

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Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:26 am

I don't see why not...
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Postby Meoton » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:28 am

Virtud Tierra wrote:
Meoton wrote:
Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.

Clothes hold just as many, if not more germs.


Eh, even really funky clothes are less contagious then infected fluids.

If you are oozing fluids all over, then I don't think casual wear is going to protect anyone.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:28 am

Ifreann wrote:Excuse me if I prefer not to share seating with someone whose anus is leaking.


See, personally, I'd like to be able to tell that just by looking at that person, and the seat.
As it is, I'm pretty sure there's an awful lot of leakage that goes entirely unnoticed because it can be hidden by clothes to some extend.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:29 am

Cabra West wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Excuse me if I prefer not to share seating with someone whose anus is leaking.


See, personally, I'd like to be able to tell that just by looking at that person, and the seat.
As it is, I'm pretty sure there's an awful lot of leakage that goes entirely unnoticed because it can be hidden by clothes to some extend.

I don't like this thread any more :(

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Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:29 am

I really do not want to see some fat, old man walking down the street starkers.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Issas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:31 am

Barringtonia wrote:
Virtud Tierra wrote:This is a good idea, because I'd love to have naked and hopefully diseased people brush up against me on the train and sitting on movie theater seats.


Technically the hands are the most dangerous part of the body, we interact with everything using them, they're naked.



I think genitals are more "dirty" than hands. Can you imagine someone with a rash "down there" sitting next to you?
Barringtonia wrote:EDIT: Can you imagine the Senate, all those Republican senators with repressed homosexuality, terrible, chaos.

Oh God, that would be disgusting :?
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:32 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:I really do not want to see some fat, old man walking down the street starkers.


Well, I really do not want to see some annorexic teenager with fingernails bitten till they bleed walking down the street in dayglow-pink leggins with "Porn-Star" written on the bum, but I don't exactly get a choice, do I?
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby Barringtonia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:32 am

Ifreann wrote:Excuse me if I prefer not to share seating with someone whose anus is leaking.


You would carry around a folding seat cover, they'd be a thing. Grandmother's would always be making them, they'd give you seat covers with some kind of grandma-pattern. Later you'd probably buy your own, if you're rich and status-obsessed you could buy a Versace seat cover, you'd probably have one sponsored and handed out free by some beer company at Uni open day.

They'd be a discussion point: 'Oh, I bought a new seat cover today, left my last one in a taxi', 'oh really, what'd you get?', 'I got the Bathing Ape seat cover...'

You could have a smart one for work, a casual one for going out, that comfy, old yet disgustingly dirty one for home,

Like mobile clothing.

This assumes that you'd need to carry a bag/satchel, given no pockets,
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:34 am

Issas wrote:

I think genitals are more "dirty" than hands. Can you imagine someone with a rash "down there" sitting next to you?

You're wrong there. Technically, you will find the most and the most dangerous germs in people's mouths. So if someone sneezed, and then wiped his hands somewhere and you touch it, THAT is what you need to be afraid of.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:34 am

Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:I really do not want to see some fat, old man walking down the street starkers.


Well, I really do not want to see some annorexic teenager with fingernails bitten till they bleed walking down the street in dayglow-pink leggins with "Porn-Star" written on the bum, but I don't exactly get a choice, do I?

And?
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Cabra West » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:36 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:I really do not want to see some fat, old man walking down the street starkers.


Well, I really do not want to see some annorexic teenager with fingernails bitten till they bleed walking down the street in dayglow-pink leggins with "Porn-Star" written on the bum, but I don't exactly get a choice, do I?

And?


And nothing. People ought to be allowed to show however much or little of themselves they want.
Just because some people are ugly as fuck is no reason to legally force everyone to wear clothes... especially since clothes usually don't improve the problem one bit.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Rentalia » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:36 am

consider that over 80% of all germs bypass cloth protection and cloth have themself germs.
Why do you think in most swimming pool is prohibited to swim full clothed?


Ifreann wrote:Excuse me if I prefer not to share seating with someone whose anus is leaking.


Naturist use to sit on a towel they aren't savage
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:37 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:I really do not want to see some fat, old man walking down the street starkers.


Well, I really do not want to see some annorexic teenager with fingernails bitten till they bleed walking down the street in dayglow-pink leggins with "Porn-Star" written on the bum, but I don't exactly get a choice, do I?

And?

The point is that just because you don't like it doesn't mean it should be illegal.

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Postby Issas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:38 am

Cabra West wrote:
Issas wrote:

I think genitals are more "dirty" than hands. Can you imagine someone with a rash "down there" sitting next to you?

You're wrong there. Technically, you will find the most and the most dangerous germs in people's mouths. So if someone sneezed, and then wiped his hands somewhere and you touch it, THAT is what you need to be afraid of.

Yes but sometimes people do leak...not a lot, but I still don't want to sit on any of that.
lol I like the seat cover idea

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Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:39 am

Cabra West wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:
Cabra West wrote:[
Well, I really do not want to see some annorexic teenager with fingernails bitten till they bleed walking down the street in dayglow-pink leggins with "Porn-Star" written on the bum, but I don't exactly get a choice, do I?

And?


And nothing. People ought to be allowed to show however much or little of themselves they want.
Just because some people are ugly as fuck is no reason to legally force everyone to wear clothes... especially since clothes usually don't improve the problem one bit.

Think of it like this - a guy is drivin down the road gets distracted by topless woman on the pavement and crashes.
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Re: Naturism should be legal. Period

Postby Katganistan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:40 am

Rentalia wrote:a)You are a pervent....you just should see naked chicks!
b)If we legalize nudism the world will be a immense immoral orgy
c)Who think about the children?

1) It's unsanitary. I don't want to sit on a bus seat where someone's bare butt's been. The skid marks I see at the laundromat tell me a lot of people don't know how to clean themselves properly. Don't get me started on a woman's time of the month.
2) It's dangerous. Drop a cup of hot coffee on yourself; without some buffer, you're going to get burned.
3) There are just some things, like your penis or labia piercings, that I just don't need to see.
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