What's the worst which could happen to Obama?

[New Mitanni]

But on topic, it'd be hard to argue against assassination since I would guess sudden, violent death is worse than losing an election. I think it's too early to say yet what his chances are in '12, and I'm not sure the Democrats will lose control in Congress in '10, but I think the GOP stands to gain a few seats if they play their cards right.

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

[GetBert]

...driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors...

I never thought I would see you admit to being both hateful and un-American.

You don't have a very good sarcasm detector, do you?

How foolish of me to think you might be being honest

[Tech-gnosis]

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

While assassination is unlikely its hardly impossible. Saying its not going to happen with such conviction either speaks of powers to see the future, delusion, or arrogance.

[Melkor Unchained]

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

While assassination is unlikely its hardly impossible. Saying its not going to happen with such conviction either speaks of powers to see the future, delusion, or arrogance.

Or it could, y'know, mean that he regards it as extremely unlikely. I think it's possible, but, yes, unlikely. I should hope any would-be assassins would realize that assassinating Obama saddles us with Joe Biden for the remainder of his term. Wait...

So that's why Obama picked him!

Good move!

[Grave_n_idle]

But on topic, it'd be hard to argue against assassination since I would guess sudden, violent death is worse than losing an election. I think it's too early to say yet what his chances are in '12, and I'm not sure the Democrats will lose control in Congress in '10, but I think the GOP stands to gain a few seats if they play their cards right.

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

Right. Because Lincoln was elected out of office. Kennedy was elected out of office. Garfield was elected out of office. McKinley was elected out of office.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Americans murder about 10% of their Presidents.

[Gauthier]

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

While assassination is unlikely its hardly impossible. Saying its not going to happen with such conviction either speaks of powers to see the future, delusion, or arrogance.

Or it could, y'know, mean that he regards it as extremely unlikely. I think it's possible, but, yes, unlikely. I should hope any would-be assassins would realize that assassinating Obama saddles us with Joe Biden for the remainder of his term. Wait...

So that's why Obama picked him!

Good move!

Same reason Shrub picked Darth Cheney.

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

Right. Because Lincoln was elected out of office. Kennedy was elected out of office. Garfield was elected out of office. McKinley was elected out of office.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Americans murder about 10% of their Presidents.

Fun Fact: Only one of those assassinations has occurred since the Secret Service took over the role of protecting the President (giving them a 17 out of 18 (95%) success rate), and their one failure, Kennedy, was pretty much asking for it by riding through town in a convertible along a route with numerous sniper positions.

[Rhodmhire]

Barack Obama staring into my eyes.

[Lackadaisical2]

Right. Because Lincoln was elected out of office. Kennedy was elected out of office. Garfield was elected out of office. McKinley was elected out of office.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Americans murder about 10% of their Presidents.

Fun Fact: Only one of those assassinations has occurred since the Secret Service took over the role of protecting the President (giving them a 17 out of 18 (95%) success rate), and their one failure, Kennedy, was pretty much asking for it by riding through town in a convertible along a route with numerous sniper positions.

At least one of those died due to what would be considered medical malpractice today (Doctor sweating into the wound), I can't remember which Garfield or McKinley.

[Gauthier]

Right. Because Lincoln was elected out of office. Kennedy was elected out of office. Garfield was elected out of office. McKinley was elected out of office.

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention, but Americans murder about 10% of their Presidents.

Fun Fact: Only one of those assassinations has occurred since the Secret Service took over the role of protecting the President (giving them a 17 out of 18 (95%) success rate), and their one failure, Kennedy, was pretty much asking for it by riding through town in a convertible along a route with numerous sniper positions.

If John Hinckley had a better shot, Reagan would have been another post-Secret Service failure. And unlike Oswald, he was very up close and personal to Reagan at the time.

[Zirilrath]

The worst that could happen to Obama is that he suffers a fate so horrible that human language cannot express it properly. AKA, getting defeated by Hillary in 2012.

[Taeshan]

think it would be losing the next electuion. I don't see an assasination working in this day and age.

[New Mitanni]

The point I was making, and which I'm sure you and other discerning minds picked up immediately, was that the President of the United States is not going to be assassinated, and that all the blather about assassination is motivated by animus against the right rather than any realistic assessment of possible events. No credible conservative anticipates the assassination of the President of the United States. We want to see him defeated, not deleted.

Since assassination is not going to happen, the worst that could happen is electoral defeat for the Obamunist regime.

While assassination is unlikely its hardly impossible. Saying its not going to happen with such conviction either speaks of powers to see the future, delusion, or arrogance.

Points to his crystal ball with true seeing.

[New Mitanni]

Or it could, y'know, mean that he regards it as extremely unlikely. I think it's possible, but, yes, unlikely. I should hope any would-be assassins would realize that assassinating Obama saddles us with Joe Biden for the remainder of his term. Wait...

So that's why Obama picked him!

Good move!

I strongly doubt there's anyone out there fixin' to play Charles Giteau to Biden's Chester Arthur.

[Greed and Death]

Obama is Irish and all 3 Irish descent presidents have had assassination attempts.
Andrew Jackson Who got angry and beat the would be gunman with his cane.
JFK yeah.
and Reagan.

[Nerushimi Rus]

He will continue to be bitched at by FOX news and other criticizers of "Obamunism".

For the record, he isn't a damn socialist. I like some of his ideas, but he doesn't have the balls to take it far enough. Evidently, even the President is caught up in the lie that the majority of American citizens are right-wing.

I don't know for sure, but I'm under the impression that the true majority of American citizenry just lives out its day-to-day life without the urge to pick up a gun and initiate Libertarian or Communist revolution.

[Robustian]

I might be an Obama supporter, but there's been all this discussion in my class about him being possibly assasinated. I wouldn't say its too off, I mean you have all those White Supremacists and all. But what do you guys think?

I think the threat of being assassinated is fully and wholly overblown media event, and mostly the product of wild-eyed hate-filled partisan lefties that want to vent their derangement on the right. Ergo, that's off topic for me.

As for Obama's administration, here's my prediction:

Obama's administration will be a complete meltdown. Here's why. Congress will tire of being his whipping boy, and him trying to usurp their power, or attempting to tie their hands. The people in general - a good half of Democrats and wide majorities of R's and independents will develop very negative views of his behavior. Internationally, our allies will develop a disrespect for him and our enemies will simply mock him. While Congress will very unlikely challenge his behavior and attempt any removal efforts, it will simply ignore him and go about it's agenda. In 2010, the GOP will gain a slim majority in both houses, and Obama will attempt to side with them in an effort to even be slightly relevant.

Here's the lowdown on why he loses it.

1. Obama's promises and statements all come with an experation date. However, that date is nearer in the future than his opponent's memories, and apparently, even shorter than the public's memory.

2. Obama demonstrates a wholesale lack of judgement, both politically and personally. His public character assassination of doctors and surgeons and insurance people might be short term gain politically in a fight against them for his "health care bill", but it comes at a huge future cost. Why would a president, of all people, seek to make people distrust their doctor? We're not a nation that particularly likes "divide and conquer" politics much.

3. Obama's view of both us and the world is apparently a radical caricature. When he accused doctors of pulling tonsils for money, and surgeons of amputations for tens of thousands of dollars in profits, he didn't fact check. Why? Because he neither cared what the facts were, nor did he lack confidence in his completely out of touch view of reality. What's worse, is that most of us recognized "That's what he thinks of doctors and surgeons". On the respectability scale, doctors are WAY UP THERE. What must the think of us mere mortals?

4. Obama attacked the people, defamed them publicly and officially. A REALLY big no-no. Do you think ANY of us accused of being paid protestors and faking concern will EVER give him anything but the finger? Heck no. Promises to "allow" us some decisions aren't going to fix that. Hell no, we want MORE decisions back from him now, and our money, too.

5. Obama's abysmal failure at foreign policy. He's managed to make our enemies laugh, our friends furious, and our allies feel betrayed. The Iranians thumbed their noses at us and the world, he did nothing, and in fact, appeared totally afraid to take a stand of any kind. Eastern Europe has been betrayed, when he sided with Russia over missile defense for the likes of Poland, AND for ourselves. We have working missile defense, but Obama doesn't want to deploy it.

6. Economic malfeasance. Obama appears to believe that economics is a game of redistribution. In reality, it's a matter of wealth creation and empowerment. 800 billion of pork barrell waste, and assorted other mind bogglingly stupid ideas continue to flow out, and nothing of substance in regard to helping rebuild the country's economy. Everything the administration is doing, is aimed at attempting to get people to BORROW MORE MONEY. Not having a clue that excessive debt is the first, and largest problem now, he's sought to enlarge it. Economic stimulation by debt is like attempting to save money on your food budget by buying next week's budget this week, instead. Sure, the fridge fills more, but next week is going to be REALLY bad.

7 Thug politics. The White House has been very busy threatening all kinds of people, industries, even media. Banks were told to go along with him, or face selective and capricious regulatory action that WOULD result in jail and bankruptcy. Health insurance companies were ordered about 2 weeks ago to cough up all records on compensation, profits, and all entertainment, etc, spending. Did the company have a resort retreat? The White House wants to know. That way, they can use the bully pulpit to demonize the insurers even more, if they fail to just go quietly. The problem is, you do this, and if later, those you've wronged see weakness, they'll be like sharks, smelling blood in the water and they'll all rush in the for the kill.

And, Obama's showing weakness. His polls, and the "disapprove" numbers continue to steadily climb. Those who are on that side aren't going to change their mind. He's earned it through who he is and how he behaves.

Evidence of his weakness internationally... The release of the Lockerbie bomber... The UK did NOT consult with us before releasing him. It was a done deal before the president even knew anything was going on. This is NOT something that would have happened 2, 5, 7, or 10 years ago. Obama had made our interests in the bomber irrelevant by his own lack of leadership and respect.

Obama will be one term. Worse, he'll leave office as the butt of jokes for late night TV. And the problem is, they won't be "half true", they'll be true. And everyone will know it. That's going to be a truly sad legacy for the guy who was going to be our first black president and prove how great it was going to be.

We'd have been 10 times better off electing Bill Cosby. We know more about him, he has some integrity and some judgement, and a keen insight into people, and further, a respect for them. I know nothing of his politics, but at this moment, it would have made him a giant in comparison to Obama.

[Discount Liquor World]

The guy has not even been in office for a year.

Lord knows what will be the result of his leadership. People were pretty happy with Bush the first few months of his election.

People might be upset with Obama's desire to rubber-stamp his agenda into law atm, but who's to say how things will be in another year or so from now?

I'm holding my reservations about the guy untill he does something to change my mind.

[Surote]

If obama gets this healthcare bill passed some white idiot going to try to kill him

[Gauthier]

If obama gets this healthcare bill passed some white idiot going to try to kill him

Even when it was only being talked about some white idiots were trying to kill him.

[Robustian]

He will continue to be bitched at by FOX news and other criticizers of "Obamunism".

For the record, he isn't a damn socialist. I like some of his ideas, but he doesn't have the balls to take it far enough. Evidently, even the President is caught up in the lie that the majority of American citizens are right-wing.

no, you have it wrong. It's only a small minority of Americans who are radical leftists like yourself.

[Anticommunist States]

I don't know for sure, but I'm under the impression that the true majority of American citizenry just lives out its day-to-day life without the urge to pick up a gun and initiate Libertarian or Communist revolution.

Ummm. "pick up a gun"? Why? So we can institute a regime that will end up...taking them away?

Kinda like Obama and his Alinsky-Worshiping myrmidons?

You would have people create bloodshed just to impose your skewed world-view?

You'd better stick to playing NationStates - the only place communism/fascism/socialism can work without hurting any more people than it already has.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Or it could, y'know, mean that he regards it as extremely unlikely. I think it's possible, but, yes, unlikely. I should hope any would-be assassins would realize that assassinating Obama saddles us with Joe Biden for the remainder of his term. Wait...

So that's why Obama picked him!

Good move!

Same reason Shrub picked Darth Cheney.

Actually, I think Conservatives might've preferred Cheney to Bush.

Also, I think H.W. learned from Ron and chose the non-avian Quayle as his running mate.

[Anticommunist States]

And as for Obama being assassinated? It would be a travesty. Not because we'd be losing a productive member of society - no it would be bad because he would be martyred like another leftist-hack, JFK.

If someone does off Obama - It'll be someone working for the DNC.

[Tech-gnosis]

Or it could, y'know, mean that he regards it as extremely unlikely. I think it's possible, but, yes, unlikely.

Then he could've, y'know, said it was extremely unlikely occurrence rather than flat out stating it wouldn't happen. Since ,ya'know, US Presidents have been assassinated before and so have various other political leaders for millenium.