What's the worst which could happen to Obama?

[Northern Delmarva]

Fascism is exactly on the other side of the political scale from Communism.

Of all the ideologies, it is the least-related.

Yes, because fascism means completely free markets, emphasizes the individual over the state, and doesn't generally result in insane, genocidal dictators.

Fascism is extreme Right-wing Authoritarianism.

Communism is extreme Left-wing Authoritarianism.

Economically and leadership-wise, they are basically one and the same.

Try again.

[Saint Clair Island]

Fascism is exactly on the other side of the political scale from Communism.

Of all the ideologies, it is the least-related.

Yes, because fascism means completely free markets, emphasizes the individual over the state, and doesn't generally result in insane, genocidal dictators.

Fascism is extreme Right-wing Authoritarianism.

Communism is extreme Left-wing Authoritarianism.

"Right-wing" and "left-wing" are meaningless terms.

Economically speaking, communism is Marxist or collectivist, while fascism is Keynesian or corporatist. That's the only real difference between the two.

[Ravea]

Fascism is exactly on the other side of the political scale from Communism.

Of all the ideologies, it is the least-related.

Yes, because fascism means completely free markets, emphasizes the individual over the state, and doesn't generally result in insane, genocidal dictators.

Fascism is extreme Right-wing Authoritarianism.

Communism is extreme Left-wing Authoritarianism.

I was under the impression that Fascism was created as an immediate response to Communism, actually. They're two different systems that end up achieving the same bad end, from what I can tell.

[The_pantless_hero]

Economically and leadership-wise, they are basically one and the same.

Try again.

I lol, therefore I am.

[New Mitanni]

The worst thing that will happen to the Dark Lord is losing the next election. Actually losing the next two elections--2010, when his flunkies and henchmen in Congress are driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors, and 2012, when his sorry ass gets shipped back to Chicago, never to be heard from again.

If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote, that is.

All this Barbra Streisand about Obama being assassinated is a laugh, coming as it does from the same side that put out garbage like "The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story". But that's typical leftie MO: accuse your enemies of the exact thing you do, and do far more of.

[Saint Clair Island]

Yes, because fascism means completely free markets, emphasizes the individual over the state, and doesn't generally result in insane, genocidal dictators.

Fascism is extreme Right-wing Authoritarianism.

Communism is extreme Left-wing Authoritarianism.

I was under the impression that Fascism was created as an immediate response to Communism, actually. They're two different systems that end up achieving the same bad end, from what I can tell.

Fascism originated as the "third way" between communism and capitalism: namely, state-regulated and -directed free enterprise (with the state being permitted to take control of the economy in times of crisis, and the economy permitted to develop normally in times of normality). However, it quickly veered into communism in a slightly different guise, while "third way" economics was later developed into social democracy and regulated capitalism as they are practiced in most of the Western world today.

[Port Arcana]

He could lead a nation full of idiots...

Hahaha, that's funny. Oh wait...

[Konakimo]

How would assassination be the worst thing that could happen to him? There'd surely be some kind of JFK effect and he'd go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents of all-time even though he ultimately wasn't all that different from the rest. Losing the next election would be bad, of course, but nothing could possibly ruin him like being impeached could.

[Northern Delmarva]

How would assassination be the worst thing that could happen to him? There'd surely be some kind of JFK effect and he'd go down in history as one of the greatest Presidents of all-time even though he ultimately wasn't all that different from the rest. Losing the next election would be bad, of course, but nothing could possibly ruin him like being impeached could.

It wouldn't, it would make him a martyr and Biden would probably push through everything he ever talked about, as well as mking retarded statements.

[JuNii]

I might be an Obama supporter, but there's been all this discussion in my class about him being possibly assasinated. I wouldn't say its too off, I mean you have all those White Supremacists and all. But what do you guys think?

Assassination would only make him a Martyr. thus not the 'worst' thing that could happen.

the worst? now, this is pure fantasy, so...

the worst thing would be that it's discovered that his policies are designed as such as to succeed where GW Bush's failed in the stripping of rights and granting of more power to the government and it was done to the thunderous applause by the people.

of course, as I said, this is pure fantasy... but that doesn't mean it can't come true.

[North Suran]

Fascism is extreme Right-wing Authoritarianism.

Communism is extreme Left-wing Authoritarianism.

Economically and leadership-wise, they are basically one and the same.

Try again.

Compare Nazi Germany and Cuba, and then tell me that Fascism and Communism are identical in economic and leadership terms.

[Virtud Tierra]

How about comparing Cuba with Pinochet's Chile instead?

[North Suran]

How about comparing Cuba with Pinochet's Chile instead?

You mean Pinochet's Chile that had extensive Free Market reforms and privatised most public services and utilities?

I can totally see the resemblance to Castro's Cuba.

[Grave_n_idle]

The worst thing that will happen to the Dark Lord is losing the next election. Actually losing the next two elections--2010, when his flunkies and henchmen in Congress are driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors, and 2012, when his sorry ass gets shipped back to Chicago, never to be heard from again.

If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote, that is.

All this Barbra Streisand about Obama being assassinated is a laugh, coming as it does from the same side that put out garbage like "The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story". But that's typical leftie MO: accuse your enemies of the exact thing you do, and do far more of.

You're so funny when you're raving. It's almost cute.

[Melkor Unchained]

The worst thing that will happen to the Dark Lord is losing the next election. Actually losing the next two elections--2010, when his flunkies and henchmen in Congress are driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors, and 2012, when his sorry ass gets shipped back to Chicago, never to be heard from again.

If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote, that is.

All this Barbra Streisand about Obama being assassinated is a laugh, coming as it does from the same side that put out garbage like "The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story". But that's typical leftie MO: accuse your enemies of the exact thing you do, and do far more of.

You're so funny when you're raving. It's almost cute.

And if you don't have anything of substance to add (even though I tend to agree that "If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote" is needlessly alarmist) you might consider not posting. Just a thought.

But on topic, it'd be hard to argue against assassination since I would guess sudden, violent death is worse than losing an election. I think it's too early to say yet what his chances are in '12, and I'm not sure the Democrats will lose control in Congress in '10, but I think the GOP stands to gain a few seats if they play their cards right.

[Grave_n_idle]

The worst thing that will happen to the Dark Lord is losing the next election. Actually losing the next two elections--2010, when his flunkies and henchmen in Congress are driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors, and 2012, when his sorry ass gets shipped back to Chicago, never to be heard from again.

If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote, that is.

All this Barbra Streisand about Obama being assassinated is a laugh, coming as it does from the same side that put out garbage like "The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story". But that's typical leftie MO: accuse your enemies of the exact thing you do, and do far more of.

You're so funny when you're raving. It's almost cute.

And if you don't have anything of substance to add (even though I tend to agree that "If this Republic lasts long enough to actually get to vote" is needlessly alarmist) you might consider not posting. Just a thought.

But on topic, it'd be hard to argue against assassination since I would guess sudden, violent death is worse than losing an election. I think it's too early to say yet what his chances are in '12, and I'm not sure the Democrats will lose control in Congress in '10, but I think the GOP stands to gain a few seats if they play their cards right.

Perhaps I should have picked apart every single pointless, evidence-lacking, alarmist piece of propaganda that Mitty spewed? The implicit ad hominem about leftie MOs?

Interesting you'll pick me up for being flippant with Mitanni - but not pick up Mitanni for that kind of attack. It's beginning to look like bias. Especially since you're pulling the same kind of crap in another thread.

[GetBert]

...driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors...

I never thought I would see you admit to being both hateful and un-American.

[Melkor Unchained]

Perhaps I should have picked apart every single pointless, evidence-lacking, alarmist piece of propaganda that Mitty spewed? The implicit ad hominem about leftie MOs?

Interesting you'll pick me up for being flippant with Mitanni - but not pick up Mitanni for that kind of attack. It's beginning to look like bias. Especially since you're pulling the same kind of crap in another thread.

I don't see an "attack," but I only read the post you were quoting. Accusing the opposition of immoral tactics/motivations/what-have-you is nothing new and we allowed it for years under Bush/the GOP (and rightly so). If there's something I haven't read yet, go ahead and link me to it or bring it up in Moderation. Last time I checked, "evidence-lacking, alarmist propaganda" wasn't explicitly against the rules. Bad form? Perhaps, but not actionable. Unless it's outright spam, I don't think we're inclined to act on it.

If you think a thread/post isn't worth your time, don't respond to it. It's that simple. If it's spam, report it.

[Tech-gnosis]

Lovecraftian entities could awaken abe begin torturing everyone, including Obama, for all eternity while staying sane. That would be the worst thing that could happen to Obama.

[Treznor]

Perhaps I should have picked apart every single pointless, evidence-lacking, alarmist piece of propaganda that Mitty spewed? The implicit ad hominem about leftie MOs?

Interesting you'll pick me up for being flippant with Mitanni - but not pick up Mitanni for that kind of attack. It's beginning to look like bias. Especially since you're pulling the same kind of crap in another thread.

[snip]

If you think a thread/post isn't worth your time, don't respond to it. It's that simple. If it's spam, report it.

How about if we feel that a post is worth challenging for being inane/wrong/misinformation, but it's not worth detailing all the ways that it's wrong?

[Melkor Unchained]

How about if we feel that a post is worth challenging for being inane/wrong/misinformation, but it's not worth detailing all the ways that it's wrong?

Seems like a strange line to toe, in my opinion. Sounds to me like you're asking 'What if it's worth posting "lol you're wrong"' but without any further commentary,' in which case I'd be inclined to say you're probably spamming. If it's something we think is worth discussing further, ask about it in Moderation rather than risk derailing this thread completely.

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

He become a facist

That's the second worst thing that could happen, the worst thing is that he become a demon.
""No! I must pass HR3200" he shouted
The radio said "No, Obama. You are the demons"
And then Obama was a zombie."

[New Mitanni]

...driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors...

I never thought I would see you admit to being both hateful and un-American.

You don't have a very good sarcasm detector, do you?

[Codawa]

I might be an Obama supporter, but there's been all this discussion in my class about him being possibly assasinated. I wouldn't say its too off, I mean you have all those White Supremacists and all. But what do you guys think?

Loss of face really, like most of your democrats, he is a coward, afraid to see anything through, like bill mauher said, he should get some bush spirit and see anything through, no matter what the cost.

SO that sounds liek a republican, idiot

[Treznor]

...driven out of town by us mobs of hateful un-American protestors...

I never thought I would see you admit to being both hateful and un-American.

You don't have a very good sarcasm detector, do you?

Perhaps he doesn't, but he's probably like me in that he enjoys seeing people reveal a truth they hadn't intended to announce.