What's the worst which could happen to Obama?

[The Cat-Tribe]

I agree that President Obama is not likely to be assassinated -- although his risk of being assassinated is probably slightly higher than it was for his immediate predecessors.

I also agree TO A VERY LIMITED EXTENT that some of this concern about assassination is left-wing fearmongering.

I still find it highly amusing to see the right-wing get apoplectic about how they are being unfairly villified. "Death panels," anyone?

[Grave_n_idle]

And as for Obama being assassinated? It would be a travesty. Not because we'd be losing a productive member of society - no it would be bad because he would be martyred like another leftist-hack, JFK.

If someone does off Obama - It'll be someone working for the DNC.

Unlikely. How many of those plots already uncovered and resolved have been based in the DNC?

[Anticommunist States]

Obama demonstrates a wholesale lack of judgement, both politically and personally.

I agree with everything you have said except for this quote. You are implying Obama is a bumbling imbecile like Bush the Second. He's smart. And he knows EXACTLY what he is doing. Like Hillary and Rahm, he's a student of Alinsky style politics. And he is playing it masterfully.

Do not underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Obama is wielding that power.

Never write off the importance of the masses who suckle off the teat of "government". Or the people running that government.

[Anticommunist States]

And as for Obama being assassinated? It would be a travesty. Not because we'd be losing a productive member of society - no it would be bad because he would be martyred like another leftist-hack, JFK.

If someone does off Obama - It'll be someone working for the DNC.

Unlikely. How many of those plots already uncovered and resolved have been based in the DNC?

Unlikely? I'd say that if Obama screws the pooch hard enough - his fellow power-hungry Alinsky scholars will have the weak link in the chain removed. And you are really stupid if you think there would be a trail to the one truly behind it.

And all those failed before because they were amateurs.

However - this is conjecture - i don't expect nor want him to be killed at all.

[Gauthier]

Unlikely? I'd say that if Obama screws the pooch hard enough - his fellow power-hungry Alinsky scholars will have the weak link in the chain removed. And you are really stupid if you think there would be a trail to the one truly behind it.

And all those failed before because they were amateurs.

You mean that white supremacist bunch arrested in Colorado were actually DNC staff? Wooooooow...

And you're probably one of those folks who still think Foster's suicide was a murder cover-up too I bet.

[Grave_n_idle]

I agree that President Obama is not likely to be assassinated -- although his risk of being assassinated is probably slightly higher than it was for his immediate predecessors.

I also agree TO A VERY LIMITED EXTENT that some of this concern about assassination is left-wing fearmongering.

I still find it highly amusing to see the right-wing get apoplectic about how they are being unfairly villified. "Death panels," anyone?

I don't think it's fear mongering.

There were vocal threats even before he was president. Federal agents broke up a ring plotting assassination (and the incidental execution of more than 100 other black targets) in October. Another plot was uncovered in August of 2008. Federal agents arrested a man threatening to assassinate Obama in Hawaii, in December of 2008.

How credible any of these threats really were is open to debate. In those cases, the threat at least seemed immediately credible. (Threats were made, plans were described to some extent, weapons were found).

[Liuzzo]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

[Grave_n_idle]

And as for Obama being assassinated? It would be a travesty. Not because we'd be losing a productive member of society - no it would be bad because he would be martyred like another leftist-hack, JFK.

If someone does off Obama - It'll be someone working for the DNC.

Unlikely. How many of those plots already uncovered and resolved have been based in the DNC?

Unlikely? I'd say that if Obama screws the pooch hard enough - his fellow power-hungry Alinsky scholars will have the weak link in the chain removed. And you are really stupid if you think there would be a trail to the one truly behind it.

And all those failed before because they were amateurs.

However - this is conjecture - i don't expect nor want him to be killed at all.

Ah. It's a conspiracy. Got it. And if it turns out that the people you have claimed as the perpetrators... can't possibly be involved, THAT will be an even bigger conspiracy, yes?

[Anticommunist States]

Unlikely? I'd say that if Obama screws the pooch hard enough - his fellow power-hungry Alinsky scholars will have the weak link in the chain removed. And you are really stupid if you think there would be a trail to the one truly behind it.

And all those failed before because they were amateurs.

You mean that white supremacist bunch arrested in Colorado were actually DNC staff? Wooooooow...

And you're probably one of those folks who still think Foster's suicide was a murder cover-up too I bet.

My apologies, I didn't simplify myself enough for your public-school warped mind, did I?

I was saying that the Dumb-Hick, "We hate n****rs", crowd responsible for the previous plots were the amateurs. Not that they were connected with the DNC. I said the successful assassination will most probably come from the DNC - and only if Obama sinks the liberal-love ship lollipop.

Are you keeping up now?......

And there won't be a way to prove it is the DNC or someone from his admin.

[Anticommunist States]

AND YES, it's just a dumb conspiracy theory - that's what NS is all about right?

A forum and a petri-dish for politcal theory - NO MATTER how farfetched?

Okay, so all you libs in the audience need to pop another ritalin and shut-up.

Dear god, you can't actually think I'm serious?

"Woooowwwwwww."

[Fartsniffage]

AND YES, it's just a dumb conspiracy theory - that's what NS is all about right?

A forum and a petri-dish for politcal theory - NO MATTER how farfetched?

Okay, so all you libs in the audience need to pop another ritalin and shut-up.

Dear god, you can't actually think I'm serious?

"Woooowwwwwww."

So you're trolling?

[Waterlow]

He finds himself stuck in a lift with any one of you...

[New Mitanni]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

I seriously doubt your Republican credentials. And Ronald Reagan alienated enough people to get 59% of the vote and a 49-state landslide. So much for your dextrophobia.

And FYI: in 1964, the Donkocrats gained 36 seats in the House of Representatives. So huge swings have happened before, and God willing will happen again in 2010.

[Robustian]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

Well, we know at least one thing... You haven't a clue.

[Grave_n_idle]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

I seriously doubt your Republican credentials. And Ronald Reagan alienated enough people to get 59% of the vote and a 49-state landslide. So much for your dextrophobia.

And FYI: in 1964, the Donkocrats gained 36 seats in the House of Representatives. So huge swings have happened before, and God willing will happen again in 2010.

Not going to happen. If there's a god, there's nothing about the current GOP that's likely to attract her.

[Yootopia]

And FYI: in 1964, the Donkocrats gained 36 seats in the House of Representatives. So huge swings have happened before, and God willing will happen again in 2010.

Any reason you need to change the Dems' name? If someone started arguing against the Retardlican Party would you take them at all seriously?

[The Cat-Tribe]

I agree that President Obama is not likely to be assassinated -- although his risk of being assassinated is probably slightly higher than it was for his immediate predecessors.

I also agree TO A VERY LIMITED EXTENT that some of this concern about assassination is left-wing fearmongering.

I still find it highly amusing to see the right-wing get apoplectic about how they are being unfairly villified. "Death panels," anyone?

I don't think it's fear mongering.

There were vocal threats even before he was president. Federal agents broke up a ring plotting assassination (and the incidental execution of more than 100 other black targets) in October. Another plot was uncovered in August of 2008. Federal agents arrested a man threatening to assassinate Obama in Hawaii, in December of 2008.

How credible any of these threats really were is open to debate. In those cases, the threat at least seemed immediately credible. (Threats were made, plans were described to some extent, weapons were found).

I honestly don't know for certain, but do you think that there were no threats or "vocal threats" against Bush I, Bush II, Clinton, etc?

As for the "assassination rings" perhaps you can refresh my recollection, but IIRC these involved ridiculous blowhards who posed little actual threat -- although their actions were clearly criminal.

[New Mitanni]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

Well, we know at least one thing... You haven't a clue.

He did get one thing right (so to speak).

[Nerushimi Rus]

Ummm. "pick up a gun"? Why? So we can institute a regime that will end up...taking them away?

Almost every Communist revolution has been the result of an Armed revolution, and many of these states had widespread gun ownership... until the institution of Stalinist, bureaucratic dictatorships.

For the record, Nerushimi Rus actually has semi-mandatory gun ownership. saves quite a bit on security, but has a few unintended side effects.

Kinda like Obama and his Alinsky-Worshiping myrmidons?

Alinsky? Eh? I'm so confused.

You would have people create bloodshed just to impose your skewed world-view?

I'm not trying to get off of my ass and start a revolution IRL. I may stick with the ideology of trotskyist socialism, but I'd rather not have to deal with leading a revolution that likely won't come anytime within at least the next 50 years.

You'd better stick to playing NationStates - the only place communism/fascism/socialism can work without hurting any more people than it already has.

1. See above
2. Fascism is largely Corporatist and its adherents are avid haters of Leftist Economics and Democracy. And so, I' m strongly opposed to it.

[Grave_n_idle]

I agree that President Obama is not likely to be assassinated -- although his risk of being assassinated is probably slightly higher than it was for his immediate predecessors.

I also agree TO A VERY LIMITED EXTENT that some of this concern about assassination is left-wing fearmongering.

I still find it highly amusing to see the right-wing get apoplectic about how they are being unfairly villified. "Death panels," anyone?

I don't think it's fear mongering.

There were vocal threats even before he was president. Federal agents broke up a ring plotting assassination (and the incidental execution of more than 100 other black targets) in October. Another plot was uncovered in August of 2008. Federal agents arrested a man threatening to assassinate Obama in Hawaii, in December of 2008.

How credible any of these threats really were is open to debate. In those cases, the threat at least seemed immediately credible. (Threats were made, plans were described to some extent, weapons were found).

I honestly don't know for certain, but do you think that there were no threats or "vocal threats" against Bush I, Bush II, Clinton, etc?

As for the "assassination rings" perhaps you can refresh my recollection, but IIRC these involved ridiculous blowhards who posed little actual threat -- although their actions were clearly criminal.

The August assassination ring ended up mainly going down for drug crimes, I think. (From what I recall).

I think there were not only threats and vocal threats, but actual attempts on previous presidents. I recall news about a guy shooting at the Bush (second Bush) White House, and getting involved in a firefight with security. I recall some overseas journey that involved someone throwing a live grenade at Bush. (I also seem to recall the account said he got lucky - a handkerchief wrapped around the grenade stopped it going off, even though the pin was out).

Obama seems to have garnered more threats, already... but I suspect assassinnation is always (now?) a risk for American Presidents. Which suggests it's a very real threat for Obama.

[Brewdomia]

Dear God reading this thread is just mind numbing. When the person posting for the right wing perspective that makes the most sense in jest is NM it is sad. Reading here Obama has destroyed the Robust (ian) economy he has handed, made everyone around the world hate or pity us, declared martial law, removed the right to bear arms, attacked the entire free market, etc. It's all bullshit you people are making up to be inflammatory or just proof of your own stupidity. It's people like you and the rest who think Sarah Palin is a statesmen. She is the reason I as a Republican didn't vote for McCain. Even McCain wasn't crazy enough for most of you people. You seem to think that by going even farther right you will not alienate even more people. I won't call the healthcare crazies paid protesters because I would like to think someone who was paid professionally might have a fricken clue. As for the only real claim I will just call you out on Robustian is that in 10 there will be a slight majority in both houses for the Republicans. A swing that huge has never and will never happen. I'd like to make a wager with you. If your prediction fails (which it will) you have to think before posting or not post at all. If you are right then I'd do the same. Seriously, this thread isn't even a debate. It's like a BS competition on who can song craziest.

I seriously doubt your Republican credentials. And Ronald Reagan alienated enough people to get 59% of the vote and a 49-state landslide. So much for your dextrophobia.

And FYI: in 1964, the Donkocrats gained 36 seats in the House of Representatives. So huge swings have happened before, and God willing will happen again in 2010.

donkocrats? when you call them that you lose all credibility in your argument

[New Mitanni]

donkocrats? when you call them that you lose all credibility in your argument

If I'd known that'd be your reaction, I would have used "Ass-o-crats" instead. Probably more descriptive at that.

[Phenia]

donkocrats? when you call them that you lose all credibility in your argument

If I'd known that'd be your reaction, I would have used "Ass-o-crats" instead. Probably more descriptive at that.

Ooh, cuz that's even more effective? You get more bonus points for that schoolyard diss?

[Ardchoille]

f I'd known that'd be your reaction, I would have used "Ass-o-crats" instead. Probably more descriptive at that.

New Mitanni, cut it out. Anyone who's trying to come up with an "elephant" (or "pachyderm") plus "Republican" counter-cry, cut that out, too. You're supposed to be debating, not standiing round the playground jeering at each other.

[Yootopia]

f I'd known that'd be your reaction, I would have used "Ass-o-crats" instead. Probably more descriptive at that.

New Mitanni, cut it out. Anyone who's trying to come up with an "elephant" (or "pachyderm") plus "Republican" counter-cry, cut that out, too. You're supposed to be debating, not standiing round the playground jeering at each other.

I don't think anyone's up to the tusk of making elephant-related insults just at the moment.