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Postby Sremski okrug » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:35 pm

Cosmopoles wrote:
Sremski okrug wrote:According to who? I'm not even convinced 1% that this guy is working for the Iranian Government


According to recordings of the defendants planning the attack

although it's pretty hypocritical coming from the country that has assassinated people in the past.


I'm fairly sure the US has never attempted to assassinate an ambassador from a country they have relations with.


I'll await some actual video evidence of him admitting he is working for the Iranian Government.
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Orlando Letelier and Carlos Prats were assassinated by a CIA guy working for the Chilean DINA. Operation Condor. The United States played a huge role in many deaths and torture across South America.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:45 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Risottia wrote:Great as the amount of money the US pay in foreign aid may be, I doubt it can equal the costs of an invasion of Iran.

First ever drone bombing campaign.
thousands of them to soften everything up.


Yeah... sure... ...'course drones come for free. And the petrol to keep 'em flying too. And the aircrafts to bring them within reach, also for free. And the average American has a 18" dick. Yeah... sure. *pat pat*

Then....send a 100k troops straight to the heart of the country with drone support. Then they surrender or call a ceasefire or peace treaty.

100k troops vs Iran? Lol. The NATO estimates for an effective invasion of SERBIA in 1999 were above 500k troops.
Serbia: population less than 7.5 M, area about 90000 km2
Iran: population about 75 M, area about 1650000 km2

Of course, discounting the Shiites all around the world, expecially in Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Iraq. Mhh... not looking like it comes at a bargain price.
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Postby Lessnt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:49 pm

Risottia wrote:
Lessnt wrote:First ever drone bombing campaign.
thousands of them to soften everything up.


Yeah... sure... ...'course drones come for free. And the petrol to keep 'em flying too. And the aircrafts to bring them within reach, also for free. And the average American has a 18" dick. Yeah... sure. *pat pat*

Then....send a 100k troops straight to the heart of the country with drone support. Then they surrender or call a ceasefire or peace treaty.

100k troops vs Iran? Lol. The NATO estimates for an effective invasion of SERBIA in 1999 were above 500k troops.
Serbia: population less than 7.5 M, area about 90000 km2
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Of course, discounting the Shiites all around the world, expecially in Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Iraq. Mhh... not looking like it comes at a bargain price.

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Postby Fellrike » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:51 pm

How should the United States and Saudi Arabia respond to this assassination attempt, if it turns out that the Iranian Pasdaran really are behind it?

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Postby Lessnt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:53 pm

Fellrike wrote:How should the United States and Saudi Arabia respond to this assassination attempt, if it turns out that the Iranian Pasdaran really are behind it?

More sanctions.
Make Iran more isolated.
If they do it again and get caught in a spectacular fashion then we send warnings of war.
They keep doing it....we go to war.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:54 pm

Risottia wrote:With what money?

You'd be surprised Riso. Money's not really a problem, public support is.
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Postby Grant Park - Harrow » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:04 pm

America and her allies have enough troops and weapons in Iraq & Afghanistan to take out Iran. With the backing of the Afghanis, Iraqis, and Pakistanis, it should be over quickly. :rofl:
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Risottia wrote:With what money?

You'd be surprised Riso. Money's not really a problem, public support is.


Would be a good call this time - war with Iran would further destabilize Iraq, and make your Gulf commitments a hell of a lot more expensive. I don't see the point.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:06 pm

Grant Park - Harrow wrote:America and her allies have enough troops and weapons in Iraq & Afghanistan to take out Iran. With the backing of the Afghanis, Iraqis, and Pakistanis, it should be over quickly. :rofl:


Pakistan have enough trouble holding their country together and the Military of Iraq and Afghanistan are still being re-constructed, they won't be useful in any conflict.

The Iranian Military will actually fight in a conflict and as witnessed during the Iran-Iraq war have millions of men and women that would volunteer to fight for their country.
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Postby Grant Park - Harrow » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:12 pm

Sremski okrug wrote:
Grant Park - Harrow wrote:America and her allies have enough troops and weapons in Iraq & Afghanistan to take out Iran. With the backing of the Afghanis, Iraqis, and Pakistanis, it should be over quickly. :rofl:


Pakistan have enough trouble holding their country together and the Military of Iraq and Afghanistan are still being re-constructed, they won't be useful in any conflict.

The Iranian Military will actually fight in a conflict and as witnessed during the Iran-Iraq war have millions of men and women that would volunteer to fight for their country.

Agreed. Not to mention, Iraq hasn't a functional government, and doesn't need much of a push to destabilize and the Afghani states bordering Iran are more interested in fighting the West than fighting along side them.

Hence the rolf.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:19 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:Would be a good call this time - war with Iran would further destabilize Iraq, and make your Gulf commitments a hell of a lot more expensive. I don't see the point.

Oh don't get me wrong, declaring war is a shit idea, but money really isn't a big problem in this case.
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:22 pm

meh, well send a strongly worded letter and maybe sactions(cause we all know that produces results)

Me, id bomb their military bases from the air, then come home. But that's just me and everyone thinks im nuts.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:24 pm

North Calaveras wrote:meh, well send a strongly worded letter and maybe sactions(cause we all know that produces results)

Me, id bomb their military bases from the air, then come home. But that's just me and everyone thinks im nuts.


Yeah, because bombing a country with WMDs, and that has spent the past three to four decades preparing itself for an attack by the USA, is smart.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:26 pm

If Obama announces Military operations against Iran in the next 3 months I think it might be time to leave the country.
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Postby Lessnt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:27 pm

Keronians wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:meh, well send a strongly worded letter and maybe sactions(cause we all know that produces results)

Me, id bomb their military bases from the air, then come home. But that's just me and everyone thinks im nuts.


Yeah, because bombing a country with WMDs, and that has spent the past three to four decades preparing itself for an attack by the USA, is smart.

Drones!
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Do not risk lives!
Risk property!

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Postby Lessnt » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:28 pm

greed and death wrote:If Obama announces Military operations against Iran in the next 3 months I think it might be time to leave the country.

Scared?
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:28 pm

Keronians wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:meh, well send a strongly worded letter and maybe sactions(cause we all know that produces results)

Me, id bomb their military bases from the air, then come home. But that's just me and everyone thinks im nuts.


Yeah, because bombing a country with WMDs, and that has spent the past three to four decades preparing itself for an attack by the USA, is smart.


When did I say anything about WMD's?, im referring to conventional means.
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Postby Sremski okrug » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:28 pm

Lessnt wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Yeah, because bombing a country with WMDs, and that has spent the past three to four decades preparing itself for an attack by the USA, is smart.

Drones!
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Do not risk lives!
Risk property!


Drones have limited range and can be shot down by even the most primitive defence systems.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:29 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Yeah, because bombing a country with WMDs, and that has spent the past three to four decades preparing itself for an attack by the USA, is smart.


When did I say anything about WMD's?, im referring to conventional means.


Yeah, you may be, but Iran certainly won't.
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:30 pm

Keronians wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
When did I say anything about WMD's?, im referring to conventional means.


Yeah, you may be, but Iran certainly won't.


so we don't retaliate because they might retaliate.... :blink:

I thought in war your supposed to retaliate against someone who has shown aggression towards you...
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Postby Coccygia » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:30 pm

This is simply too much. We must immediately draft an angry letter to the Times!
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Postby Fellrike » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:31 pm

In any conflict with Iran, I think Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchies would be the allies to rely on for support. I'm afraid Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan wouldn't be much help.
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Postby Keronians » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:31 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Keronians wrote:
Yeah, you may be, but Iran certainly won't.


so we don't retaliate because they might retaliate.... :blink:

I thought in war your supposed to retaliate against someone who has shown aggression towards you...


And Iran hasn't shown aggression towards you.

The excuse for an attack would be just as lulzy as during Iraq.

Except here many more American troops will die, and the battle will rage on for much longer.
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Postby Orlkjestad » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:32 pm

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Postby The Heartland Confederation » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:33 pm

It probally set up by the United States Government so they can go to war with Iran initiating the Iran War

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