CA Governor Encouraging Illegal Immigration?

[Conserative Morality]

There is demand in america and companies can save on shipping if they can manufacture/assemble here.

Why would they? America would have to lower the wages and living expenses of EVERYONE in the country to make manufacturing and assembly here more positive than in the third world. And the third world STILL suffers from massive unemployment. That's what Conservatives want, though, I suppose. A lower minimum wage to turn us into some undeveloped shithole.

[California Bay Area]

Isn't escaping a country in the grips of a drug war by crossing a hostile border, having to trust that the guy you paid your life savings to isn't going to leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere pretty hard work?

If they can do that why can they not pay the out of state tuition?hmm?
Not american.

Oh so because they were not born American they deserve a lower standard of life

[Bluth Corporation]

Emphasis mine.

If their parents don't, who else is left to do it, exactly?

nice edit.

Naive people think it is the governments job.Since that is who they rely of whenever it seems like there is a wounded animal in the woods.
THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD FIX THE PROBLEM!Because they are a bunch of people who either are not capable or do not wish to do the work to actually help those they believe should help,themselves.

Who said anything about the government? I'm saying we should take responsibility for their education of their parents won't, not the government.

[California Bay Area]

We can pay for citizens and immigrates our debt can be fixed and changed plus helping the illegals can do good for the states future.

You do know they do not stick to single states.
It may help AMERICA as a whole.But not California.
Nothing says they have to contribute here.

But the act is to help California not the rest of the states why should we care kentucky . The governors job is suppose to help a state not a nation

[You-Gi-Owe]

I would love to see some reasoning from the folks that voted "no" on the poll, describing how free money from California taxpayers isn't an incentive for illegal immigration.

[Lessnt]

If they can do that why can they not pay the out of state tuition?hmm?
Not american.

Oh so because they were not born American they deserve a lower standard of life

Because they chose not to wait in line.
Or did you forget millions of people in america are legal immigrants.
KEYWORD LEGAL.

[Lessnt]

You do know they do not stick to single states.
It may help AMERICA as a whole.But not California.
Nothing says they have to contribute here.

But the act is to help California not the rest of the states why should we care kentucky . The governors job is suppose to help a state not a nation

Which is the point.
It is a stupid policy.
WE cannot force them to work here.
If they find a job somewhere else after college that is where they will contribute.

[Mushet]

But the act is to help California not the rest of the states why should we care kentucky . The governors job is suppose to help a state not a nation

Which is the point.
It is a stupid policy.
WE cannot force them to work here.
If they find a job somewhere else after college that is where they will contribute.

They would most likely stay in the same state

[Bluth Corporation]

Oh so because they were not born American they deserve a lower standard of life

Because they chose not to wait in line.
Or did you forget millions of people in america are legal immigrants.
KEYWORD LEGAL.

I see no moral justification whatsoever for the restrictions that create this artificial and morally irrelevant difference.

[Lessnt]

Which is the point.
It is a stupid policy.
WE cannot force them to work here.
If they find a job somewhere else after college that is where they will contribute.

They would most likely stay in the same state

According to whom?
If they lacked education?
Probably.
If they had education?
Maybe not.

[California Bay Area]

They would most likely stay in the same state

According to whom?
If they lacked education?
Probably.
If they had education?
Maybe not.

For god sake they are in college because of the law plus the majority would stay in cal

[Lessnt]

According to whom?
If they lacked education?
Probably.
If they had education?
Maybe not.

For god sake they are in college because of the law

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.

[F1-Insanity]

Here's an idea. CA should introduce a Hollyweird tax to pay for this. I'm sure Matt Damon, George Clooney and all the rest would love to pay a... say... 85% tax on all their earnings and existing wealth to help paying for all these 'future new Americans'. Now that would be a tax increase I can believe in...

[Lessnt]

According to whom?
If they lacked education?
Probably.
If they had education?
Maybe not.

For god sake they are in college because of the law plus the majority would stay in cal

How do you know?
We do not.That is their choice.

[Unchecked Expansion]

For god sake they are in college because of the law

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.[/quote]

Yeah, spoiling your economy by being productive and making money. How dare they!

[Lessnt]

For god sake they are in college because of the law

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.

Yeah, spoiling your economy by being productive and making money. How dare they![/quote]
If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.

[F1-Insanity]

Because they chose not to wait in line.
Or did you forget millions of people in america are legal immigrants.
KEYWORD LEGAL.

I see no moral justification whatsoever for the restrictions that create this artificial and morally irrelevant difference.

Morally indifferent?

So people that actually bothered to go through the official 'process' of immigration, fill in those forms and registration and get approved and wait for that etc... should just have not bothered and waltzed in across the border so they could earn a fraction filling in a job that a company would rather not hire an American for (as in: you'd have to pay a living wage, taxes, etc.... hey why do that when you can get away with paying a fraction of that to an illegal)?

[Bluth Corporation]

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.

Yeah, spoiling your economy by being productive and making money. How dare they!

If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.[/quote]

Why are Americans more deserving of these jobs than non-Americans?

[Bluth Corporation]

I see no moral justification whatsoever for the restrictions that create this artificial and morally irrelevant difference.

Morally indifferent?

So people that actually bothered to go through the official 'process' of immigration, fill in those forms and registration and get approved and wait for that etc... should just have not bothered and waltzed in across the border so they could earn a fraction filling in a job that a company would rather not hire an American for (as in: you'd have to pay a living wage, taxes, etc.... hey why do that when you can get away with paying a fraction of that to an illegal)?

No, the basic point is why should that "process" exist and be required for immigrating in the first place? I see no moral justification whatsoever for it.

[California Bay Area]

For god sake they are in college because of the law

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.

The ones that get into college would probably be more Likely to stay in then Americans, % wise

[Drachmar]

If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.

Then offer a path to legal citizenship, and a repayment clause that requires them to stay in the U.S. after graduation.

[Lessnt]

Yeah, spoiling your economy by being productive and making money. How dare they!

If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.

Why are Americans more deserving of these jobs than non-Americans?[/quote]
It is un-american for them to kill the opportunity because they cannot compete with them....GET IT?They have a monopoly on some industries as workers because it has been going on so long.

[Lessnt]

If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.

Then offer a path to legal citizenship, and a repayment clause that requires them to stay in the U.S. after graduation.

The law passes and no such thing was included.

[California Bay Area]

Yeah, spoiling your economy by being productive and making money. How dare they!

If you mean killing demand for american workers over the course of decades then YAY!
Considering it is quite unfair and has been preventing opportunity for american workers for decades.Very unamerican.

Why are Americans more deserving of these jobs than non-Americans?[/quote]

The ones that get into college would ask as much cash as Americans

[Lessnt]

And you think they are gonna be so grateful for the extra help?
Or do you think they will go for the best job offer?
Chances are they are gonna make as much money as possibly.

The ones that get into college would probably be more Likely to stay in then Americans, % wise

How do you KNOW this is what I am asking.