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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:58 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The man is an idiot. He doesn't know the difference between a march in support of equal rights and a march in support of turning the country into a theocracy. And apparently you don't either...

I'm not talking about that...
You're avoiding what I said...
Those marches are irrelevant.

They are completely relevant to the quote you posted.
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:59 pm

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Terra Agora wrote:I'm not talking about that...
You're avoiding what I said...
Those marches are irrelevant.

They are completely relevant to the quote you posted.

So what?!
We're talking about having racial pride (specifically white pride) and not being racist.
He qualifies as both (as do a lot of people) so yes I am right.
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Postby Bleckonia » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:01 pm

Because white nationalists are racists.
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Postby Alaje » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:08 pm

Seperates wrote:I'm not sure why one would be proud of the fact that s/he happened to be born of a specific color or nationality... such people are small-minded fools.


Oh really, so why exactly would I be small-minded for being proud of my race? My nationalism makes me very confidant and it feels good to be connected to my heritage. Though most of my nationalism is for the black race, I have multiracial heritage....I'm very proud of my connection to Germany and France through my maternal Grandma and also of my Native American roots on the other side of my family. It's all about celebrating your links with your ancestors and the culture you come from, not hating others. Is that so bad?
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Postby Sanguinthium » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:08 pm

The White American Homeland wrote:OK. So you guys are bashing white nationalists. I have to stand up for myself as a white nationalist here. For anyone opposing white nationalism I first have to ask who are you and why do you oppose it?

isnt it funny how a black man raises his son to be proud of his ethnicity and is publically applauded, but a white man doest the same, and is called a child abuser?
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:09 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:They are completely relevant to the quote you posted.

So what?!

The man's a complete idiot, and as such nothing he says can be trusted.
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:10 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:So what?!

The man's a complete idiot, and as such nothing he says can be trusted.

:rofl: You're pathetic...
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:10 pm

Alaje wrote:
Seperates wrote:I'm not sure why one would be proud of the fact that s/he happened to be born of a specific color or nationality... such people are small-minded fools.


Oh really, so why exactly would I be small-minded for being proud of my race?

Because your "race" is nothing more than an accident of birth.
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Postby Sanguinthium » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:11 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:So what?!

The man's a complete idiot, and as such nothing he says can be trusted.

unless this is jokes... i must agree with you, only having read what you posted.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:12 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The man's a complete idiot, and as such nothing he says can be trusted.

:rofl: You're pathetic...

No, what's pathetic is that you think posting quotes from a confirmed white supremacist and an absolute moron is somehow proof of your claim.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:13 pm

Sanguinthium wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:The man's a complete idiot, and as such nothing he says can be trusted.

unless this is jokes... i must agree with you, only having read what you posted.

It isn't a joke. Read up on who/what the Promise Keepers are... You'll see that there march has nothing in common with the Million Man March, making the comparison completely nonsensical.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:14 pm

Sanguinthium wrote:
The White American Homeland wrote:OK. So you guys are bashing white nationalists. I have to stand up for myself as a white nationalist here. For anyone opposing white nationalism I first have to ask who are you and why do you oppose it?

isnt it funny how a black man raises his son to be proud of his ethnicity and is publically applauded, but a white man doest the same, and is called a child abuser?


Isn't it unfair how when other people get involved in their political party of choice, they are applauded for it; but when I get involved with the NSDAP everyone thinks I am a monster?
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Postby Alaje » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:15 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Alaje wrote:
Oh really, so why exactly would I be small-minded for being proud of my race?

Because your "race" is nothing more than an accident of birth.


Many things are a matter of "accident", hell life is! Should people be labeled as small-minded for being happy to be alive?
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:17 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote::rofl: You're pathetic...

No, what's pathetic is that you think posting quotes from a confirmed white supremacist and an absolute moron is somehow proof of your claim.

The only thing "confirming" him being a white supremacist is the bullshit your spewing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_LaPierre
Says nothing of white supremacy.

Also, you're a complete idiot and as such nothing you say can be trusted.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:18 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, what's pathetic is that you think posting quotes from a confirmed white supremacist and an absolute moron is somehow proof of your claim.

The only thing "confirming" him being a white supremacist is the bullshit your spewing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_LaPierre
Says nothing of white supremacy.

Also, you're a complete idiot and as such nothing you say can be trusted.


Can you guys stop bitching, please?
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:18 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Sanguinthium wrote:unless this is jokes... i must agree with you, only having read what you posted.

It isn't a joke. Read up on who/what the Promise Keepers are... You'll see that there march has nothing in common with the Million Man March, making the comparison completely nonsensical.

Which is not the fucking point!
He was advocating white racial pride while not advocating racism.
You're wrong.
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:22 pm

Alaje wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Because your "race" is nothing more than an accident of birth.


Many things are a matter of "accident", hell life is! Should people be labeled as small-minded for being happy to be alive?

It would help if you knew what the phrase meant...
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:22 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, what's pathetic is that you think posting quotes from a confirmed white supremacist and an absolute moron is somehow proof of your claim.

The only thing "confirming" him being a white supremacist is the bullshit your spewing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_LaPierre
Says nothing of white supremacy.

Also, you're a complete idiot and as such nothing you say can be trusted.

David Duke: confirmed white supremacist.
Wayne LaPierre: Absolute moron.

Try again.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:23 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:It isn't a joke. Read up on who/what the Promise Keepers are... You'll see that there march has nothing in common with the Million Man March, making the comparison completely nonsensical.

Which is not the fucking point!
He was advocating white racial pride while not advocating racism.
You're wrong.

No, I'm not the man is a moron.
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:26 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:The only thing "confirming" him being a white supremacist is the bullshit your spewing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_LaPierre
Says nothing of white supremacy.

Also, you're a complete idiot and as such nothing you say can be trusted.

David Duke: confirmed white supremacist.
Wayne LaPierre: Absolute moron.

Try again.

You "try again."
Neither of them are white supremacists.
Apparent'y being a moron disqualifies you from advocating white pride while not being racist.
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"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:26 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:Which is not the fucking point!
He was advocating white racial pride while not advocating racism.
You're wrong.

No, I'm not the man is a moron.

So being a moron disqualifies you from holding the belief of white pride while not being racist? :palm:
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
"Morality is a device for controlling the gullible with words." - L A Rollins

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Postby Alaje » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:26 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Alaje wrote:
Many things are a matter of "accident", hell life is! Should people be labeled as small-minded for being happy to be alive?

It would help if you knew what the phrase meant...
accident of birth wrote:Reference to the fact that various benefits or detriments to the life of a person arise from the circumstances into which that person was born, these being entirely beyond his or her control.



I know what the phrase means, good sir. I never said there was any benefit to being a specific race, that's what supremacists do. I was just making the point that many things are placed upon us that are beyond our control, including life itself.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:27 pm

Terra Agora wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:David Duke: confirmed white supremacist.
Wayne LaPierre: Absolute moron.

Try again.

You "try again."
Neither of them are white supremacists.
Apparent'y being a moron disqualifies you from advocating white pride while not being racist.

Sorry, but David Duke is a white supremacist.
Being a moron disqualifies anything you say from being taken into consideration.
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Postby Terra Agora » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:29 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Terra Agora wrote:You "try again."
Neither of them are white supremacists.
Apparent'y being a moron disqualifies you from advocating white pride while not being racist.

Sorry, but David Duke is a white supremacist.
Being a moron disqualifies anything you say from being taken into consideration.

You're a moron, anything you say is disqualified from being taken into consideration.
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“If a tyrant is one man and his subjects are many, why do they consent to their own enslavement?”- Étienne De La Boétie
“It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful.” - Anton Szandor LaVey
"Liberty is the mother, not the daughter, of order." Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
"Freedom" awakens your rage against everything that is not you; "egoism" calls you to joy over yourselves, to self-enjoyment."-Max Stirner
" A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years." - Lynsander Spooner
"The world is indeed comic, but the joke is on mankind." - H.P. Lovecraft
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Postby United World Order » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:31 pm

Shoulden't really be called Discussion on White Nationalism. All "Whites" are decendants of Europeans so it should really be called.

"Discussion on European Nationalism"

And i can't blame them with the rise of Muslims in Europe i believe and other issues.
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