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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:52 pm

Natvia wrote:I don't think anybody can get "White" stamped on their passport.

SO.

I don't know what that means, actually, I just thought it was witty.


Ok I'll admit, their version of Nationalism is exceptionally stupid, and makes about as much sense as "Brown Nationalism." I mean, I'm pretty tan - but I sure as hell don't speak Nahuatl, or identify in the least with those that speak it.

Basically it's taking Racialism and Nationalism and combining them to form an ugly Chimera of an ideology.
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Postby Pauper Kings » Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:58 pm

Alaje wrote:Sorry, Terra Agora, but the people on Stormfront are flat out White Supremacists. I've actually read some of their site out of curiousity.....the have nothing good to say about any non-white race, they especially love to demonize blacks.

There's more than enough of a valid reason to demonize blacks. The amount of crime they cause is barely scratching the surface. In addition, if they are organized to protect and promote their racial interests then whites have to be also in self-defense. White supremacy doesn't exist anymore; white survival does.

BTW, later on tomorrow you can "tear me a new one" if you can.

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Postby Pauper Kings » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:01 pm

Mushet wrote:I don't have much of a problem with white nationalists as long as they're not fucking with me

The ideal of WN would be that one racial group has little to no influence on the other. So nobody who is white would "fuck with you". :roll:, and vice-verse.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:05 pm

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Alaje wrote:Sorry, Terra Agora, but the people on Stormfront are flat out White Supremacists. I've actually read some of their site out of curiousity.....the have nothing good to say about any non-white race, they especially love to demonize blacks.

There's more than enough of a valid reason to demonize blacks. The amount of crime they cause is barely scratching the surface. In addition, if they are organized to protect and promote their racial interests then whites have to be also in self-defense. White supremacy doesn't exist anymore; white survival does.

BTW, later on tomorrow you can "tear me a new one" if you can.


Oh please, when it boils down to it, the Stormfront types don't care how much crimes any particular ethnicity commits; if they aren't white they ain't staying. See for instance the ostensible consenus that exists on that forum that "you know what, the East-Asians aren't all that bad - but they need to fuck off once we establish our all-white paradise because they ain't white."
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:07 pm

Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:08 pm

SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.


So i have inferior morals and intellectual character just because im a nationalist?
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Postby Mushet » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:09 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Natvia wrote:I don't think anybody can get "White" stamped on their passport.

SO.

I don't know what that means, actually, I just thought it was witty.


Ok I'll admit, their version of Nationalism is exceptionally stupid, and makes about as much sense as "Brown Nationalism." I mean, I'm pretty tan - but I sure as hell don't speak Nahuatl, or identify in the least with those that speak it.

Basically it's taking Racialism and Nationalism and combining them to form an ugly Chimera of an ideology.

I speak it actually, but I'm not much of a nationalist, I don't like the organization known as the Mexica Movement, do not support "la reconquista" or think that The Mexihca Empire was the best thing ever, I just like Nahua culture :p
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:09 pm

SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.


Nah, that would be comforting to beleive, but you can find plenty of highly intelligent individuals with some crappy beleifs/ideologies. Newt Gingrich comes to mind.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:11 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.


So i have inferior morals and intellectual character just because im a nationalist?

I was trying to take a page out of their own playbook and use it against them... you ruined it.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:11 pm

SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.

Really? Real nice. I suppose my beliefs are proof positive of my moral and intellectual inferiority.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:14 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.

Really? Real nice. I suppose my beliefs are proof positive of my moral and intellectual inferiority.

See my reply to NC. I was trying to use their own language against them.
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Postby Pauper Kings » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:14 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Pauper Kings wrote:There's more than enough of a valid reason to demonize blacks. The amount of crime they cause is barely scratching the surface. In addition, if they are organized to protect and promote their racial interests then whites have to be also in self-defense. White supremacy doesn't exist anymore; white survival does.

BTW, later on tomorrow you can "tear me a new one" if you can.


Oh please, when it boils down to it, the Stormfront types don't care how much crimes any particular ethnicity commits; if they aren't white they ain't staying. See for instance the ostensible consenus that exists on that forum that "you know what, the East-Asians aren't all that bad - but they need to fuck off once we establish our all-white paradise because they ain't white."

I don't frequent SF any longer. But there is a large variety of people there; from the most radical extremists possible to paleo-conservatives. I don't think you've ever read the site much. at least not for a long time and not very thoroughly. It's huge.

Besides, the Japanese usually feel exactly the same about whites in Japan. Not to mention China.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:15 pm

SaintB wrote:See my reply to NC. I was trying to use their own language against them.

Is that how I sound to you?
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:15 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
SaintB wrote:Because nationalism and racism are both petty and stupid ideals perpetrated and celebrated by individuals of inferior moral and intellectual character.

Really? Real nice. I suppose my beliefs are proof positive of my moral and intellectual inferiority.


You're a civic nationalist though. The cool kind of nationalist. :p
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:18 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:You're a civic nationalist though. The cool kind of nationalist. :p

I'm also a territorial nationalist though.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
SaintB wrote:See my reply to NC. I was trying to use their own language against them.

Is that how I sound to you?

No but the OP does, and that is who I was directing my remark toward. I'd take it down but its been quoted so many times there is basically no getting rid of it. It was gut reaction snark directed toward OP and OP alone.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:You're a civic nationalist though. The cool kind of nationalist. :p

I'm also a territorial nationalist though.


It's only Ethnic Nationalism that I have any issue with.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:21 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:It's only Ethnic Nationalism that I have any issue with.

Yeah, ethnic nationalism is pretty ridiculous.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:24 pm

Pauper Kings wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:
Oh please, when it boils down to it, the Stormfront types don't care how much crimes any particular ethnicity commits; if they aren't white they ain't staying. See for instance the ostensible consenus that exists on that forum that "you know what, the East-Asians aren't all that bad - but they need to fuck off once we establish our all-white paradise because they ain't white."

I don't frequent SF any longer. But there is a large variety of people there; from the most radical extremists possible to paleo-conservatives. I don't think you've ever read the site much. at least not for a long time and not very thoroughly. It's huge.

Besides, the Japanese usually feel exactly the same about whites in Japan. Not to mention China.


Nope - I'm pretty sure that the majority of them ideally want to kick out anyone who isn't white out of their nation - or at the very least confine them to certain areas. It's not as much to do with the specific crime rate of "X none white ethnicity", but their bizzare obsession with miscegnation and the impending "white genocide".
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Postby Natvia » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:29 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:Nope - I'm pretty sure that the majority of them ideally want to kick out anyone who isn't white out of their nation - or at the very least confine them to certain areas. It's not as much to do with the specific crime rate of "X none white ethnicity", but their bizzare obsession with miscegnation and the impending "white genocide".


Why would somebody kill all the whites?

Is it because they can't jump?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:30 pm

Natvia wrote:Why would somebody kill all the whites?

Is it because they can't jump?

It's because we can't dance.
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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:35 pm

Natvia wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:Nope - I'm pretty sure that the majority of them ideally want to kick out anyone who isn't white out of their nation - or at the very least confine them to certain areas. It's not as much to do with the specific crime rate of "X none white ethnicity", but their bizzare obsession with miscegnation and the impending "white genocide".


Why would somebody kill all the whites?

Is it because they can't jump?


Again, they have a bizzare definition of genocide. Basically, if you "race-mix" you are commiting genocide - as the offspring won't be white, even if they look white. Gradually as miscegnation spreads, they fear that the white race will eventually be no more.

Then again, Stormfronts a pretty bizzare place - there are plenty of intelligent, eloquent posters there, who nonetheless hold some ridiculous and bigoted views. (Though I think their Mods filter out some of the crazies, for image purposes - and they're always suspicious that it might be a "Jew" trolling them/trying to make them look bad.)
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Postby Vecherd » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:38 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:Then again, Stormfronts a pretty bizzare place - there are plenty of intelligent, eloquent posters there, who nonetheless hold some ridiculous and bigoted views. (Though I think their Mods filter out some of the crazies, for image purposes - and their always suspicious that it might be a "Jew" trolling them/trying to make them look bad.)


Stormfront is funny reading, I am glad they don't have much influence though, since most of the are Neo-Nazis.
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Postby Natvia » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:39 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:Again, they have a bizzare definition of genocide. Basically, if you "race-mix" you are commiting genocide - as the offspring won't be white, even if they look white. Gradually as miscegnation spreads, they fear that the white race will eventually be no more.

Then again, Stormfronts a pretty bizzare place - there are plenty of intelligent, eloquent posters there, who nonetheless hold some ridiculous and bigoted views. (Though I think their Mods filter out some of the crazies, for image purposes - and their always suspicious that it might be a "Jew" trolling them/trying to make them look bad.)


If the "White Race" is as based around Folk music and Skinheading as they appear to make it? I... think I'm cool with it dying out.

Also, clearly the Mossad have taken time off their busy schedule to stir some shit on a hate site. I can't believe they figured it out.

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Postby Norstal » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:40 pm

The White American Homeland wrote:OK. So you guys are bashing white nationalists. I have to stand up for myself as a white nationalist here. For anyone opposing white nationalism I first have to ask who are you and why do you oppose it?

If I remember my Political Science class, Nationalism is the fervent support of a nation.

...I don't recall any white nations though.
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