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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:02 am

Bulgharia wrote:How could I prove you, when I don't see those gays anymore?

It's like proving that Santa really exists.


You want proof? OK. One of the following images shows a gay man. Identify him.

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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:21 am

Bulgharia wrote:The guy who said heterosexuals are inferior is simply retarded <snip>

People hate you for a reason. It is not homophobes who have to change, you have to.

Bulgharia wrote:It is clear to see who is homo and who is hetero.

And all gays have women behavior.

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Postby -St George » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:28 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
-St George wrote:Prove. It.

And I am a Christian AND a homosexual.

Get the fuck out of my religion with your outdated and backward bigotry. I hope a bird shits upon from a great height. I hope your children are ugly and your wife is fat. I fart in your general direction.


So much for "turn the other cheeck", eh?

Yes, when it comes to bigotry, Christians should seek to oppose and work against it at any and all levels.
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Postby Euronion » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:33 am

Mairuksta wrote:
Alkena wrote:Why are people gay?


Why shouldn't people be gay?


becuase if everyone were gay the human race would die off in little more than a century
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:35 am

Euronion wrote:
Mairuksta wrote:
Why shouldn't people be gay?


becuase if everyone were gay the human race would die off in little more than a century

Three points:
1. It is highly unlikely, at the current figures, that all or even the majority of humanity will be homosexual.
2. Even if by some stroke of fortune every human did become homosexual, homosexuals are not infertile, and could still reproduce, through the natural means or through artificial impregnation.
3. What does that have to do with someones right to express their sexuality?

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Postby Lost Earth » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:35 am

On the OP, I'd say that many people are not actually homophobic that you might consider to be. For example, if someone does not want to be gay or does not believe it is morally right, it does not necessarily mean that they hate or fear homosexual people. I for one feel that not only does homosexuality go against nature, but it is also sinful. However, I am not going to run for my life or pull a gun whenever I see someone of this persuasion.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:38 am

Lost Earth wrote:On the OP, I'd say that many people are not actually homophobic that you might consider to be. For example, if someone does not want to be gay or does not believe it is morally right, it does not necessarily mean that they hate or fear homosexual people. I for one feel that not only does homosexuality go against nature, but it is also sinful. However, I am not going to run for my life or pull a gun whenever I see someone of this persuasion.

Homophobia is a term used to refer to a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay and in some cases bisexual, transgender people and behavior. You could, indeed, be described as a homophobic.

You most certainly could be referred to as factually ignorant or incorrect.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:38 am

Euronion wrote:
Mairuksta wrote:
Why shouldn't people be gay?


becuase if everyone were gay the human race would die off in little more than a century


If everyone were celibate, the human race would die off in little more than a century.
Therefor one should not become a nun or priest.

If everyone were a doctor there would be no farmers, bakers and butchers - and the human race would die off in little more than a year.
Therefor one should not study medicine.

Need I go on ;) ?
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Postby The Raqaani » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:49 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
If everyone were celibate, the human race would die off in little more than a century.
Therefor one should not become a nun or priest.

If everyone were a doctor there would be no farmers, bakers and butchers - and the human race would die off in little more than a year.
Therefor one should not study medicine.

Need I go on ;) ?


If people couldn't die, the Earth's resources would be consumed rapidly and the human race would suffer horribly, therefore people shouldn't live. :p
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Postby Salandriagado » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:50 am

Euronion wrote:
Mairuksta wrote:
Why shouldn't people be gay?


becuase if everyone were gay the human race would die off in little more than a century


Whereas if everyone shared the strange compulsion that seems tragically common to produce children, we'd have even more of an overpopulation problem than we already do.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby GeneralHaNor » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:51 am

The Raqaani wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
If everyone were celibate, the human race would die off in little more than a century.
Therefor one should not become a nun or priest.

If everyone were a doctor there would be no farmers, bakers and butchers - and the human race would die off in little more than a year.
Therefor one should not study medicine.

Need I go on ;) ?


If people couldn't die, the Earth's resources would be consumed rapidly and the human race would suffer horribly, therefore people shouldn't live. :p


Bingo, everyone needs to embrace the voluntary human extinction movement, it's the only way.
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Postby Australasia » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:51 am

The following two quotes show the general ignorance of homophobic bigots:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Euronion wrote:
becuase if everyone were gay the human race would die off in little more than a century


If everyone were celibate, the human race would die off in little more than a century.
Therefor one should not become a nun or priest.

If everyone were a doctor there would be no farmers, bakers and butchers - and the human race would die off in little more than a year.
Therefor one should not study medicine.

Need I go on ;) ?


AND

On the OP, I'd say that many people are not actually homophobic that you might consider to be. For example, if someone does not want to be gay or does not believe it is morally right, it does not necessarily mean that they hate or fear homosexual people. I for one feel that not only does homosexuality go against nature, but it is also sinful. However, I am not going to run for my life or pull a gun whenever I see someone of this persuasion.


The usual blatantly incorrect idea that sexual orientation is a choice. It's not. No chooses to be gay. I'm sixteen years old, I'm gay, I've known that for years, and there wasn't a day when I suddenly decided I was going to be gay. It's utterly absurd. It's also not simply a behaviour, and cannot be equated to celibacy. Being asexual for example does not mean you are celibate.

And it's also utterly absurd for there to have to be debates over LGBT issues when every single major mental health organization in the world says that homosexuality is a normal, natural, and positive variant of human sexuality (and has been documented in hundreds of other animal species as well).
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Postby -St George » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:56 am

Australasia wrote:-snip-

You miss the point that Alma Mata was making, that is that being homosexual isn't inherently harmful at all, and that saying things like 'if the whole world was gay we'd die out' are ridiculous.

He's not saying or implying homosexuality is a choice. He's just pointing out the sillyness of the hyperbole.
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Postby Euronion » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:59 am

-St George wrote:Prove. It.

And I am a Christian AND a homosexual.

Get the fuck out of my religion with your outdated and backward bigotry. I hope a bird shits upon from a great height. I hope your children are ugly and your wife is fat. I fart in your general direction


why does everyone assume that all people who are against homosexuality are closets or bigots, how many times has the word bigot been used to describe someone who does not agree with a liberal's views, a great many, why can't you just stop calling names and present your opinion, also your comment could be regarded as flaming.

People who dislike homosexuals are not necessarily bigots or any other word that you Liberals would like to use to describe them. I do not like the idea of homosexuality, is it because I am any of the things you describe me as. no, it is because it makes me physically sick to see one man making out with another especially when they start using their tongues, believe me I have seen it several times at the park while walking my dog.

Another reason why people may not like homosexuals is that perhaps they want to believe what they want to believe instead of liberals or LGBT people trying to cram their beliefs down our throats. A good example of this would be in Mississippi were SSM is legal and where legislation was recently passed forcing children from the age of kindergarten to read about homosexuals and openly talk about them. A Christian couple filed a complaint that their child had been sent home (at the age of 5) with a book called "A King and a King" were a Prince marries another Prince. The couple asked for a simple opt-out program but the legislation passed does not allow parents to opt-out. When the father told school administrators that he would not leave their office until he was offered and opt-out program, he was handcuffed and thrown in jail. Similar legislation has been recently passed in California banning all textbooks that contain content that portrays minorities in a negative light and bans teachers from teaching anything to the contrary. I will require History teachers teach about homosexuals throughout history just because they were somewhat important and gay and again there is no opt-out program. For Latino families this is especially hard because a majority of them are very catholic and they are forced into this compulsorily school system, with no opt-out program and there many of the poorer families can't afford homeschooling or private schools. New York's Governor has released a statement saying that soon LGBT history will also be taught in NY school curriculum.

Probably most ridiculously why I do not like homosexuals is those pride parades and pride rallies that they have. I have no problem with people doing what they want to do as long as they do it in private, why do you need to hold a gigantic parade that blocks traffic and disturbs people's commute. Why can't you just have some sort of private meeting, instead of having these large events so near to people's homes and without their consent that it breeds resentment against homosexuals? I mean how would your react if someday you look at your window and you see some giant pro-homosexual float and tons of men kissing men and women kissing women. Tone is down, and that is why many people are NOT Homophobic but do dislike homosexuals.
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Postby Jasonovia » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:00 am

What is so horrifically evil about suggesting celibacy instead?

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Postby The Soviet Technocracy » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:01 am

Sidhae wrote:Well, for a start, most of the so-called homophobes don't really hate homosexuals and the likes, they just don't enjoy having a lifestyle that goes beyond their standards of decency rubbed in their faces all the time.

It's much like why people who don't have a problem with nudists have a problem with homos - nudists are allocated their own secluded places to practice their thing without offending the sensibilities of others. Homosexuals too have gay bars, clubs and, of course, the privacy of their own homes. But yet a certain minority of them aren't content with that and aggressively press their lifestyle on general public by holding obnoxious parades and screaming and whining about their rights all the time. There's a nice word for such people - assholes, and even the most liberal Western nations haven't yet gone as far as to demand tolerating assholes.

In short, if homos and the likes just kept it private, there wouldn't really be a problem. Being... well, genetically and/or psychologically impaired in the sexual sphere isn't really something to brag with anyway.


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Postby Sovereign Oppression » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:01 am

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No, there has simply been a limit on what they can marry. Sue and Kate can marry. Just not each other. Their right to marriage is protected, but with limitations in place. Completely legal. It's not an infringement on their basic human rights.

You're confusing "right to marriage" with "right to marry whoever you please". They are not the same thing, and no where in current U.S. law is there a piece of legislation that would even hint that.

:palm: An inherently discriminatory limit.


Yes. And a completely legal one. What part of that do you not understand? They still share equal protection under the law. They are not being denied marriage. Just marriage to particular things. And it doesn't apply to just homosexuals, by heterosexuals too. Heterosexuals cannot marry people of the same sex either. So it's equal.

It's legal discrimination. Completely constitutional. No amount of sarcasm and facepalms will change that. Don't like it? Don't whine to me about it. I'm just telling you how it is.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:03 am

Jasonovia wrote:What is so horrifically evil about suggesting celibacy instead?


Why, as I just said, if everyone picked celibacy, humanity would die out :P Therefor celibacy is obviously wrong and sinful and such.
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Postby Sovereign Oppression » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:04 am

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Bulgharia wrote:The guy who said heterosexuals are inferior is simply retarded <snip>

People hate you for a reason. It is not homophobes who have to change, you have to.

Bulgharia wrote:It is clear to see who is homo and who is hetero.

And all gays have women behavior.

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Can we just do that now? I mean...look at the mess he's made of the past few pages...
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Postby Bottle » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:04 am

Jasonovia wrote:What is so horrifically evil about suggesting celibacy instead?

Nothing's wrong with suggesting anything, as long as you are prepared to accept it when people reject your suggestion.
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Postby Euronion » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:05 am

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Lost Earth wrote:On the OP, I'd say that many people are not actually homophobic that you might consider to be. For example, if someone does not want to be gay or does not believe it is morally right, it does not necessarily mean that they hate or fear homosexual people. I for one feel that not only does homosexuality go against nature, but it is also sinful. However, I am not going to run for my life or pull a gun whenever I see someone of this persuasion.

Homophobia is a term used to refer to a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay and in some cases bisexual, transgender people and behavior. You could, indeed, be described as a homophobic.

You most certainly could be referred to as factually ignorant or incorrect.


with statements like that I think the OP has gotten his answer, keep on calling the people who don't believe what you believe ignorant, incorrect, and homophobic and you are certainly going to turn them in your favor. Am I considered a Frankophobe because I do not like Napoleon, am I cosnidered an Anglophobe because I don't like King Henry VIII. Stop fitting people into catagories, it annoys people.
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Postby Bottle » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:08 am

Euronion wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Homophobia is a term used to refer to a range of negative attitudes and feelings towards lesbian, gay and in some cases bisexual, transgender people and behavior. You could, indeed, be described as a homophobic.

You most certainly could be referred to as factually ignorant or incorrect.


with statements like that I think the OP has gotten his answer, keep on calling the people who don't believe what you believe ignorant, incorrect, and homophobic and you are certainly going to turn them in your favor. Am I considered a Frankophobe because I do not like Napoleon, am I cosnidered an Anglophobe because I don't like King Henry VIII. Stop fitting people into catagories, it annoys people.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but...good?

I mean, if it pisses you off when people (accurately) call you a homophobe, then that's kind of a bonus. I use accurate terms because they're accurate, but if they also happen to piss off people who are acting like prejudiced jerkwads then that's pretty nice too.
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why does everyone assume that all people who are against homosexuality are closets or bigots, how many times has the word bigot been used to describe someone who does not agree with a liberal's views, a great many, why can't you just stop calling names and present your opinion, also your comment could be regarded as flaming.

People who dislike homosexuals are not necessarily bigots or any other word that you Liberals would like to use to describe them. I do not like the idea of homosexuality, is it because I am any of the things you describe me as. no, it is because it makes me physically sick to see one man making out with another especially when they start using their tongues, believe me I have seen it several times at the park while walking my dog.

The bolded is homophobia.
Another reason why people may not like homosexuals is that perhaps they want to believe what they want to believe instead of liberals or LGBT people trying to cram their beliefs down our throats. A good example of this would be in Mississippi were SSM is legal and where legislation was recently passed forcing children from the age of kindergarten to read about homosexuals and openly talk about them. A Christian couple filed a complaint that their child had been sent home (at the age of 5) with a book called "A King and a King" were a Prince marries another Prince. The couple asked for a simple opt-out program but the legislation passed does not allow parents to opt-out. When the father told school administrators that he would not leave their office until he was offered and opt-out program, he was handcuffed and thrown in jail. Similar legislation has been recently passed in California banning all textbooks that contain content that portrays minorities in a negative light and bans teachers from teaching anything to the contrary. I will require History teachers teach about homosexuals throughout history just because they were somewhat important and gay and again there is no opt-out program. For Latino families this is especially hard because a majority of them are very catholic and they are forced into this compulsorily school system, with no opt-out program and there many of the poorer families can't afford homeschooling or private schools. New York's Governor has released a statement saying that soon LGBT history will also be taught in NY school curriculum.
Education on LGBT is the only way to ensure we don't have a generation of Aaron McKinney's and Russell Henderson's, or is that what you want? LBGT's too afraid to go outside for fear of attack, kidnap, torture and murder?

Probably most ridiculously why I do not like homosexuals is those pride parades and pride rallies that they have. I have no problem with people doing what they want to do as long as they do it in private, why do you need to hold a gigantic parade that blocks traffic and disturbs people's commute. Why can't you just have some sort of private meeting, instead of having these large events so near to people's homes and without their consent that it breeds resentment against homosexuals? I mean how would your react if someday you look at your window and you see some giant pro-homosexual float and tons of men kissing men and women kissing women.
I'd have an erection and go out and join them.

This is simply the bigoted heterosexual crying because his day was interrupted once by a Gay Pride Parade. These parades are born out of civil rights demonstrations from a time when LBGT's had hardly any rights of any kind, and serve a purpose, not just in America but in every nation on Earth. America proclaims to the world that they support human rights, they support civil rights, except homosexuality is illegal in the nations of a number US allies, but no one talks about that, do they? In central America and the Caribbean alone, homosexuality is illegal in Belize (10 year prison sentence), Antigua and Barbuda (15 year prison sentence), Barbados (life imprisonment), Dominica (10 year prison sentence), Grenada (10 year prison sentence), Jamaica (10 years hard labour), Saint Kitts and Nevis (10 year prison sentence), Saint Lucia (10 year prison sentence), Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (10 year prison sentence) and Trinidad and Tobago (25 year prison sentence). All regimes largely supported by the US and other western powers.
Tone is down, and that is why many people are NOT Homophobic but do dislike homosexuals.
Everything you said was homophobic.
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Postby -St George » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

Jasonovia wrote:What is so horrifically evil about suggesting celibacy instead?

Why do you hate me freedom to fuck who I want?
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Postby Euronion » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Jasonovia wrote:What is so horrifically evil about suggesting celibacy instead?


Why, as I just said, if everyone picked celibacy, humanity would die out :P Therefor celibacy is obviously wrong and sinful and such.

as one person suggested, just replace homosexual with celibate

Mairuksta wrote:Three points:
1. It is highly unlikely, at the current figures, that all or even the majority of humanity will be homosexual celibate.
2. Even if by some stroke of fortune every human did become homosexual celibate, homosexuals celibates are not infertile, and could still reproduce, through the natural means or through artificial impregnation.
3. What does that have to do with someones right to express their sexuality?
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