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by Fairdom and Freedom Land » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:54 pm
by Isolated China » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:57 pm
Fairdom and Freedom Land wrote:Illegal (no such thing to ezist illegally imo) immigrants should receive an education too. They tend to be poor and disadvantaged. I do not see the problem with this bill.
by Fairdom and Freedom Land » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:57 pm
Isolated China wrote:Fairdom and Freedom Land wrote:Illegal (no such thing to ezist illegally imo) immigrants should receive an education too. They tend to be poor and disadvantaged. I do not see the problem with this bill.
The problem people have, is that the state of California is dirt-poor, and its STILL giving away free money like it has the economy of Europe.
by Saiwania » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:58 pm
by Coffee Cakes » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:58 pm
Isolated China wrote:Fairdom and Freedom Land wrote:Illegal (no such thing to ezist illegally imo) immigrants should receive an education too. They tend to be poor and disadvantaged. I do not see the problem with this bill.
The problem people have, is that the state of California is dirt-poor, and its STILL giving away free money like it has the economy of Europe.
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by Paragade » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:59 pm
Paragade wrote:If immigration laws were streamlined this illegal immigrants would be legal and they would be able to pay taxes. Yes there is a minimum tax bracket for those who make less than $8,500 per year so don't believe any bullshit that the Republicans try and pass off when they say "The poor don't pay their taxes."
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:00 am
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Fairdom and Freedom Land » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:02 am
by Isolated China » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:03 am
by Paragade » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:05 am
by Pryssilvalia » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:08 am
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:09 am
Isolated China wrote:Coffee Cakes wrote:
Europe has an economy to speak of lately?
Apparently the Euro surpassed the American Dollar sometime ago. Though maybe that's because some Islamic Terrorist didn't decide to bomb their massive trade center, killing 60000 people and making them go to the Middle East to shoot some people as revenge. But you know, that may be just me putting 2+2 together.
Paragade wrote:Coffee Cakes wrote:
Or an even simpler solution. Cut government spending.
Cutting Government Spending would mean Government employees would be laid off meaning there would be higher unemployment. In my city the School District is the top employer and if they cut education a lot of people over here would be looking for work and education is already something that's vital. Increasing taxes on the rich doesn't affect personal incomes and even though income tax rates have been steadily dropping unemployment rates have been steadily rising even before the recession.
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Isolated China » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:17 am
Coffee Cakes wrote:Isolated China wrote:
Apparently the Euro surpassed the American Dollar sometime ago. Though maybe that's because some Islamic Terrorist didn't decide to bomb their massive trade center, killing 60000 people and making them go to the Middle East to shoot some people as revenge. But you know, that may be just me putting 2+2 together.
And getting 4 as your answer. Nice work.
by Coffee Cakes » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:20 am
Transnapastain wrote:CC!
Posting mod mistakes now are we?
Well, sir, you can have a Vindictive warning for making us look incompetent
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:You're Invisi Gay. Super hero of the Rainbow Equality Brigade!
Nana wrote:Being CC's bf is a death worse than fate.
Nana wrote:Finally, another reasonable individual.
Nana wrote: You're Ben. And Ben is many things wrapped into one being. :)
Quotes Singing Contest of DOOM Champ. SoftballGeniasis wrote:I've seen people lose credibility. It's been a while since I've seen it cast aside so gleefully.
by Norstal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:22 am
Euronion wrote:
What do you think?
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by Norstal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:23 am
Euronion wrote:Isolated China wrote:Well, they aren't stealing education. And I think its fine that they are going to educate illegals, but at the state's expense?
Now thats a different matter.
the only problem is that even if they are educated, once they exit college, they will still be illegals, and people who hire illegals as store clerks are going to face a lot less pressure on them to not hire illegals than hospitals hiring doctors that are illegals. Technically they aren't supposed to be working at all, but if you have them on high income jobs aka more important jobs means that they will be in more powerful positions and positions in which they can drastically influence people's lives, which means that it would be opening a sort of pandoras box of what to do next. How would US doctors feel when they are denied being hired because and illegal doctor beat them to it?
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by Grave_n_idle » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:24 am
by Isolated China » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:26 am
by Pryssilvalia » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:29 am
Euronion wrote:How would US doctors feel when they are denied being hired because and illegal doctor beat them to it?
by Paragade » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:31 am
Pryssilvalia wrote:Euronion wrote:How would US doctors feel when they are denied being hired because and illegal doctor beat them to it?
Shame, perhaps? They can't beat those who have been given less opportunity, who have lived a worse life than they have? It is one thing that illegal doctors beat them because illegal doctors demand less wage, it is entirely another that they lost because they were simply not good enough.
by Nazi Flower Power » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:31 am
Euronion wrote:Yhep, it happened again, In California in the form of the DREAM act otherwise known as AB 130 and AB 131. AB 130, which has already been signed into law, gives illegal immigrants the right to be given private scholarships from colleges, and AB 131, which is on Governor Jerry Brown's desk right now. AB 131 gives illegals state funding to attend UCs and USCs. The program is expected to cost around 40 million per year.
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I think this is just a sick and horrible idea, and I believe that we need the Federal government to intervene.
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What do you think?
by Norstal » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:33 am
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New York Times wrote:No one can beat him in debates. 5/5.
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by Pryssilvalia » Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:33 am
Grave_n_idle wrote:Euronion wrote:
if they are illegals and aren't even supposed to be here in the first place technically they are illegally taking spots in colleges which means they are stealing spots at the taxpayer's expense
As is covered every time a thread like this snakes out from under whichever rocks they hide under... illegal immigrants tend to pay taxes, and tend to take little or nothing back.
It's probably far more accurate to say that citizens are being educated at the expense of illegal immigrants.
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