Smooth move, Alabama

[AiliailiA]

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NC raised the subject as a 'response' to the issue of labour shortages, etc.

*shrugs*

(However, I have gone ahead and deleted the next post I made about it.) Can we similarly put a nix on NC's hijack about how Conservapedia justifies ignoring all the data that doesn't meet his desires?

Yup.

And just to reiterate, no warnings official or non were handed out or implied. No kittens were harmed (much) in the making of this post either.

Hah, you admit it!

And don't plead ignorance of the law, that kitten is underpaid. Probably should be in school right now too!

[Wikkiwallana]

Alabama proving once again it knows how to handle an infestation.

Yup, kill the host, just like in a monster movie. None of this wishy-washy stuff about "fleeing for their lives" or "hard-working productive people".

[AiliailiA]

Because that would require making a rational argument, and there aren't any of those that support this law.

Well there's the fact that it's doing exactly what it's designed to. Illegal immigrants are leaving the country in some cases and no longer doing illegal work.

How do you know they're leaving the country? It's far more likely they moved interstate isn't it?

[Wikkiwallana]

Because that would require making a rational argument, and there aren't any of those that support this law.

Well there's the fact that it's doing exactly what it's designed to. Illegal immigrants are leaving the country in some cases and no longer doing illegal work.

Which is only rational until you consider the effect that their loss is going to have. Cutting off your arm because it itches isn't rational just because it stops the itching.

[Des-Bal]

How do you know they're leaving the country? It's far more likely they moved interstate isn't it?

One of the sources that was just brought up focused on the inhumanity of a couple who came to the country illegally being unable to continue breaking the law and choosing to go back to Mexico.

[Des-Bal]

Which is only rational until you consider the effect that their loss is going to have. Cutting off your arm because it itches isn't rational just because it stops the itching.

Alabama should have made sure they had another source of labor before they got rid of 80% of their agricultural work force but that doesn't change the fact the law did exactly what it was supposed to.

[North Calaveras]

Well there's the fact that it's doing exactly what it's designed to. Illegal immigrants are leaving the country in some cases and no longer doing illegal work.

Which is only rational until you consider the effect that their loss is going to have. Cutting off your arm because it itches isn't rational just because it stops the itching.

Then how do you handle this itch?

[Des-Bal]

Then how do you handle this itch?

Do you just start hacking off body parts when they itch?

[AiliailiA]

How do you know they're leaving the country? It's far more likely they moved interstate isn't it?

One of the sources that was just brought up focused on the inhumanity of a couple who came to the country illegally being unable to continue breaking the law and choosing to go back to Mexico.

I read it. In no way does it establish that the law is doing "what it's supposed to do". It's extremely weak even as anecdotal evidence.

[North Calaveras]

Then how do you handle this itch?

Do you just start hacking off body parts when they itch?

I'm not sure that's why I'm asking

[Des-Bal]

I read it. In no way does it establish that the law is doing "what it's supposed to do". It's extremely weak even as anecdotal evidence.

That's why I said "In some cases" not "every single alien is gone hooray America." The law was supposed to discourage illegals from taking jobs or remaining in Alabama, that's what's happening. Even if they are just hopping across the interstate as you put it the law wasn't meant to effect other states, because other states are not Alabama.

[Imperium Nova Roma]

Alabama proving once again it knows how to handle an infestation.

Yup, kill the host, just like in a monster movie. None of this wishy-washy stuff about "fleeing for their lives" or "hard-working productive people".

Indeed, we must find what is behind these illegal parasitic bodies jumping over The Rio Grande and The U.S/Mexico border and remove it, only then can the proud, old, and grand America fight back its disease and grow strong.

[Wikkiwallana]

Which is only rational until you consider the effect that their loss is going to have. Cutting off your arm because it itches isn't rational just because it stops the itching.

Alabama should have made sure they had another source of labor before they got rid of 80% of their agricultural work force but that doesn't change the fact the law did exactly what it was supposed to.

I'm not arguing with its effectiveness, I'm saying that no matter how effective it's still irrational.

[North Calaveras]

Alabama should have made sure they had another source of labor before they got rid of 80% of their agricultural work force but that doesn't change the fact the law did exactly what it was supposed to.

I'm not arguing with its effectiveness, I'm saying that no matter how effective it's still irrational.

it's irrational to punish law breakers?

[Wikkiwallana]

Which is only rational until you consider the effect that their loss is going to have. Cutting off your arm because it itches isn't rational just because it stops the itching.

Then how do you handle this itch?

Scratch it (a less insane law), apply an anti-itch cream (fix the system that makes exploitation of undocumented labor the only economical way to run a farm), or realize that itches happen and ignore it exactly what it sounds like).

[Wikkiwallana]

Yup, kill the host, just like in a monster movie. None of this wishy-washy stuff about "fleeing for their lives" or "hard-working productive people".

Indeed, we must find what is behind these illegal parasitic bodies jumping over The Rio Grande and The U.S/Mexico border and remove it, only then can the proud, old, and grand America fight back its disease and grow strong.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or didn't realize I was.

[Wikkiwallana]

I'm not arguing with its effectiveness, I'm saying that no matter how effective it's still irrational.

it's irrational to punish law breakers?

It's irrational to destroy our ability to harvest crops to remove a "problem" that harms no-one while simultaneously making every Hispanic in Alabama guilty until proven innocent every single time the go into public.

[Imperium Nova Roma]

Indeed, we must find what is behind these illegal parasitic bodies jumping over The Rio Grande and The U.S/Mexico border and remove it, only then can the proud, old, and grand America fight back its disease and grow strong.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or didn't realize I was.

You're having some issues, then. I know you were being sarcastic, I however, was not.

Unless, of course, you were being sarcastic about "Fleeing for their lives" and "Hard Working Productive People", because I have yet to meet a hard working illegal.

[Coccygia]

The Tea Party is running drugs into Canada?

You like that Wicker Man huh?

To explain that analogy to you, Mexico trying to rein in the drug cartels is like the Republicans trying to rein in the Tea Party. In both cases, the latter effectively control the former. How you managed to spin "The Tea Party runs drugs into Canada" from that would land you a spot on FOXNews.

So...the Tea Party and FOX News are running drugs into Canada for Michael Jackson? But...what does the Wicker Man have to do with this?

[Wikkiwallana]

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or didn't realize I was.

You're having some issues, then. I know you were being sarcastic, I however, was not.

Unless, of course, you were being sarcastic about "Fleeing for their lives" and "Hard Working Productive People", because I have yet to meet a hard working illegal.

My sarcasm detector never arrived with the rest of my "personal interaction supplies" kit. A few other things were missing too, that's what I get for ordering from IKEA.

And anyway, on topic, personal anecdotes do not trump statistics.

Edit: typo

[Wikkiwallana]

You like that Wicker Man huh?

To explain that analogy to you, Mexico trying to rein in the drug cartels is like the Republicans trying to rein in the Tea Party. In both cases, the latter effectively control the former. How you managed to spin "The Tea Party runs drugs into Canada" from that would land you a spot on FOXNews.

So...the Tea Party and FOX News are running drugs into Canada for Michael Jackson? But...what does the Wicker Man have to do with this?

He supplies the bees, of course.

[Des-Bal]

You're having some issues, then. I know you were being sarcastic, I however, was not.

Unless, of course, you were being sarcastic about "Fleeing for their lives" and "Hard Working Productive People", because I have yet to meet a hard working illegal.

You probably haven't noticed them, they're often on roofs or lawns.

[Coccygia]

So...the Tea Party and FOX News are running drugs into Canada for Michael Jackson? But...what does the Wicker Man have to do with this?

He supplies the bees, of course.

The...the bees?

[Imperium Nova Roma]

You're having some issues, then. I know you were being sarcastic, I however, was not.

Unless, of course, you were being sarcastic about "Fleeing for their lives" and "Hard Working Productive People", because I have yet to meet a hard working illegal.

You probably haven't noticed them, they're often on roofs or lawns.

Oh, you're referring to the illegals that get jobs and do them piss poorly, of course, they are Hard Working, not quite Productive, like a child wasting his time to achieve an impossible goal.

[Wikkiwallana]

He supplies the bees, of course.

The...the bees?

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/not-the-bees#.To5LVa5bezI