Jesus died for you.

[Dyakovo]

How does christianity "accurately explain reality"?

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good.¹ Which is not even close to reality.²
Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation.³ Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature.⁴ Problem of morality: solved: from God⁵

1: Source?
2: I assume you can provide evidence that all people are basically evil then?
3: Methinks you have no clue what atheism is...
4: Yay! Christianity solves a problem that it artificially imposes!
5: Only christians can be moral...

[The Rich Port]

How does christianity "accurately explain reality"?

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way.

Let's not.

Because Christianity isn't the only goddamn religion on this stoopid toopid planet.

And, also, because it's not the most goddamn correct one, either.

Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation. Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature. Problem of morality: solved: from God

Grossly oversimplifying the mystery of the universe to "obey God" isn't explaining reality. It's just insulting to our intelligence.

[Genivaria]

Wish there were more Christians on this forum I think my fingers are gonna fall off from all this typing

It helps if you quote different people, and address them all in the same post.

[South Waxhaw]

I'm pretty sure people die so idk if that's really a lie

Okay, even if it wasn't an outright lie, it was still deliberately misleading.
If I say "If you look me in the eye, you will die." it's implied that you would die as a result of looking me in the eye. While it's technically true that if you will die if you look me in the eye, the two facts are not in any way related and death will come to you whether you loook at me or not.
Even if what Yahweh said to Adam and Eve was technically the truth, he was obviously trying to give thhem a false impression of the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit.

So you're saying you know that God implied that?

[Dyakovo]

But Adam and Eve did not die when they ate the fruit.

I don't think He said "you will immediately die" did he?

"If you eat the fruit you'll die" certainly implies it is an immediate consequence...

[Dyakovo]

Wish there were more Christians on this forum I think my fingers are gonna fall off from all this typing

There's a lot of christians on this forum...

[Erinkita]

How does christianity "accurately explain reality"?

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good. Which is not even close to reality.

They do not all believe that, and I disagree that it's a false assertion. Humanity is capable of good and evil in equal proportion. We aren't intrinsically one way or the other.

Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation.

That doesn't solve the problem, it just handwaves it. Saying the universe was created by God does nothing to explain how something came from nothing.

Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature.

That's not problem. Everything that you term 'evil' can be easily explained with now-obsolete survival instincts.

Problem of morality: solved: from God

People are perfectly capable of creating a workable morality system based on logic and communal benefit. There's no need to bring God into it at all.

[Dyakovo]

Okay, even if it wasn't an outright lie, it was still deliberately misleading.
If I say "If you look me in the eye, you will die." it's implied that you would die as a result of looking me in the eye. While it's technically true that if you will die if you look me in the eye, the two facts are not in any way related and death will come to you whether you loook at me or not.
Even if what Yahweh said to Adam and Eve was technically the truth, he was obviously trying to give thhem a false impression of the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit.

So you're saying you know that God implied that?

Yes.

“You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

[South Waxhaw]

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good.¹ Which is not even close to reality.²
Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation.³ Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature.⁴ Problem of morality: solved: from God⁵

1: Source?
2: I assume you can provide evidence that all people are basically evil then?
3: Methinks you have no clue what atheism is...
4: Yay! Christianity solves a problem that it artificially imposes!
5: Only christians can be moral...

Alright then explain to me what atheism is. Let's debate on your ground for once

[Farnhamia]

How does christianity "accurately explain reality"?

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good. Which is not even close to reality.
Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation. Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature. Problem of morality: solved: from God

Man is basically good. If humans were not basically good, and willing to help each other, we would never have gotten off the African plains. That people do terrible things to each other has nothing whatsoever to do with the supernatural, or a transgression against a non-existent deity committed by people in the past.

Now then, atheism:

- problem of energy coming from non-energy: a bad statement of the problem of the origin of the universe, which is, frankly, typical of people who make no effort to understand science. Solution: cosmology.

- problem of man's evil: solved: greed and mental illness, to name just two.

- problem of morality: solved: humans have brains and know that helping each other is better for everyone's survival.

No deities need apply.

[Erinkita]

Okay, even if it wasn't an outright lie, it was still deliberately misleading.
If I say "If you look me in the eye, you will die." it's implied that you would die as a result of looking me in the eye. While it's technically true that if you will die if you look me in the eye, the two facts are not in any way related and death will come to you whether you loook at me or not.
Even if what Yahweh said to Adam and Eve was technically the truth, he was obviously trying to give thhem a false impression of the consequences of eating the forbidden fruit.

So you're saying you know that God implied that?

If we take Genesis to be an accurate account of events, then it's obvious from God's words that he was misleading them.
Do you honestly mean to tell me that God said "Eat the fruit and you will die" and intended Adam and Eve to get any impression other than that eating the fruit would cause them to die?

[The Rich Port]

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good.¹ Which is not even close to reality.²
Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation.³ Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature.⁴ Problem of morality: solved: from God⁵

1: Source?
2: I assume you can provide evidence that all people are basically evil then?
3: Methinks you have no clue what atheism is...
4: Yay! Christianity solves a problem that it artificially imposes!
5: Only christians can be moral...

1.) He shouldn't (and probably won't) even bother. Outright fabrication.
2.) He most certainly can't. Statistically impossible.
3.) He doesn't. Not all atheists believe in spontaneous matter manifestation.
4.) Really convenient, IMO. They're never wrong because the problem never existed.
5.) The part that really insults me.

[Candalia]

How does christianity "accurately explain reality"?

To start off let's get all other religions out of the way. They all believe man is basically good. Which is not even close to reality.
Now then atheism: problem of energy coming from non energy- solved: creation. Problem of mans evil: solved: sin nature. Problem of morality: solved: from God

Energy isn't coming from nothing, it is generated by molecules and cells when they react to each other. Morals are something that every person has and will discover.

Also how is it accurate that everything revolves around the Earth and that the Earth is flat?

Is it a miracle that when you rub your hands together, the rubbing action produces warmth, is that a miracle that god created just now? Nope, it is a reaction of the cells of your body rubbing against each other, thus warming the air molecules.

(Sorry if some of the terminology isn't correct, English isn't my 1st language.)

[Four-sided Triangles]

"If you eat the fruit you'll die" certainly implies it is an immediate consequence...

It's almost like god pulled a rather lawyer-like "from a certain point of view" move there. Is god related to Obi Wan?

[Dyakovo]

1: Source?
2: I assume you can provide evidence that all people are basically evil then?
3: Methinks you have no clue what atheism is...
4: Yay! Christianity solves a problem that it artificially imposes!
5: Only christians can be moral...

Alright then explain to me what atheism is. Let's debate on your ground for once

The lack of belief in a deity or deities.

[Genivaria]

1: Source?
2: I assume you can provide evidence that all people are basically evil then?
3: Methinks you have no clue what atheism is...
4: Yay! Christianity solves a problem that it artificially imposes!
5: Only christians can be moral...

Alright then explain to me what atheism is. Let's debate on your ground for once

Nothing more the disbelief in god or gods.

[Dyakovo]

"If you eat the fruit you'll die" certainly implies it is an immediate consequence...

It's almost like god pulled a rather lawyer-like "from a certain point of view" move there. Is god related to Obi Wan?

Maybe...

[South Waxhaw]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

[The Alma Mater]

"If you eat the fruit you'll die" certainly implies it is an immediate consequence...

It's almost like god pulled a rather lawyer-like "from a certain point of view" move there. Is god related to Obi Wan?

God created Satan - the first lawyer/prosecutor.

And taught him everything.

[Dyakovo]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

Certainly not because of eating fruit...

[The Alma Mater]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

Because god likes to masturbate to those. Who are we to deny him his pleasure ?

[The Rich Port]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

Life 101: Everyone is different.

Christianity 101: Some people are evil, some are not. Those that are good go to Heaven; those that are not go to Hell.

[Erinkita]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

Certainly not because of eating fruit...

I'm willing to bet that every murderer and rapist in the history of the world ate fruit at some point in their lives. Coincidence? I think not!

[Four-sided Triangles]

Okay a lot of these deal with evil. If I am understanding you are arguing that man is not evil. How then is there war all around? Why is there rape? Murder?

Because the world is not a simple binary where all humans are either inherently evil or inherently good.

[Dyakovo]

Certainly not because of eating fruit...

I'm willing to bet that every murderer and rapist in the history of the world ate fruit at some point in their lives. Coincidence? I think not!