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Regarding billionaires Paying as Much as Jews....

It's a typical Obama-ism.
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23%
It's a Freudian Slip.
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35%
It's a teleprompter error.
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21%
Someone hacked the teleprompter.
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Total votes : 48

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Postby You-Gi-Owe » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:21 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Sucrati wrote:
Please, if it was a Republican, this would be all over the news and the ACLU among other groups would be suing them.

If it were President Bush, it would just go into the bucket of silly things he said, and no one would really even notice.

You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:23 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If it were President Bush, it would just go into the bucket of silly things he said, and no one would really even notice.

You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.


... Kind of like how you... On second thought, I retreat from the point I was going to make.
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Postby Unchecked Expansion » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:24 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If it were President Bush, it would just go into the bucket of silly things he said, and no one would really even notice.

You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.

Why? He said much much dumber things

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:25 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.


... Kind of like how you... On second thought, I retreat from the point I was going to make.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:25 pm

Now, call me a radical, but something tells me he meant "same amount as you" and it came out wrong...

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
You-Gi-Owe wrote:You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.


... Kind of like how you... On second thought, I retreat from the point I was going to make.


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Novaya Tselinoyarsk
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If it were President Bush, it would just go into the bucket of silly things he said, and no one would really even notice.

You'd notice.
Plus, if it helped the typical, "bush is stupid" argument, you'd be shouting it from the roof-tops.


Q meet Q, go cry elsewhere.

Now if Obama actually meant it and is trying to spew hate speech everywhere then you can complain CONSTANTLY. Then again, that has never stopped you, why do you even care so much? Honestly? He slipped on a word, tell me you have NEVER done that ever in your life. Just because he's a President doesn't mean shit, he's still human, at least some people still show it.
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
... Kind of like how you... On second thought, I retreat from the point I was going to make.

We did promise Arch we wouldn't do that, didn't we? That said, I'm done.


... We did?
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Postby Suckeryou » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 pm

From 2009:

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Personally: Knowing "Reverend" Wright has said so often in the past, I'm going to say that he meant what he said.
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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:32 pm

Poll fail. There's no "Another over-the-top rant from You-Gi-Owe" choice.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:34 pm

Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else or less likely to fail due to faulty electronics.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:34 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else.

It means you don't have to look down and break "eye contact" with the audience.

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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:35 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else or less likely to fail due to faulty electronics.


Not everyone can remember all of the speech so well, I don't necessarily blame anyone. He was elected to run the country, not have to be 100% perfect in remembering a speech for any given day on the spot with a gun to his head.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:36 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else.

Have there been any authenicated cases of someone's teleprompter text being interefered with? Not corrupted the way computerized text can get corrupted, but deliberately altered to say something other than the original?

And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else.

Have there been any authenicated cases of someone's teleprompter text being interefered with? Not corrupted the way computerized text can get corrupted, but deliberately altered to say something other than the original?

And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.


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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.

Can we still dog-pile attack his arguments? >_>

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:40 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.

Can we still dog-pile attack his arguments? >_>


You'd have to find them first.

I've never seen a bloodhound that good.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:40 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.

Can we still dog-pile attack his arguments? >_>

<_< I believe attacking the argument was the point Arch was trying to make.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else.

Have there been any authenicated cases of someone's teleprompter text being interefered with? Not corrupted the way computerized text can get corrupted, but deliberately altered to say something other than the original?

And yes, we did promise not to turn YGO threads into dog-pile attacks on YGO.


You've never watched Bill O'Reilly's explosion? Perhaps not intentional, though, agreeably.

Oh. Hence why I retracted any point I was going to make about YGO. :eyebrow:

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else or less likely to fail due to faulty electronics.


Not everyone can remember all of the speech so well, I don't necessarily blame anyone. He was elected to run the country, not have to be 100% perfect in remembering a speech for any given day on the spot with a gun to his head.


The things people say regardless of telemprompters being with them... I can't take this as a good point.

However, it does sound very functional if it doesn't break.

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Also, why the hell do people use teleprompters so much?

Flash cards or notes are less likely to be altered by someone else.

It means you don't have to look down and break "eye contact" with the audience.


Hmm... I dunno. Is eye contact more important than what you're saying?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:42 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Hmm... I dunno. Is eye contact more important than what you're saying?

Some would say yes. If you don't look down to read your notes every five seconds, it gives makes you look confident to the masses, even if you are really looking at a teleprompter.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:43 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Can we still dog-pile attack his arguments? >_>

<_< I believe attacking the argument was the point Arch was trying to make.

Really? I read that "Keep it argument based, and don't bring YGO's character into the fray".

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William Delaney III
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Postby William Delaney III » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:45 pm

Actually...

I suffer from a bit of a stutter, and I actually felt very offended over the way people made an issue over some of Bush's slips. You shouldn't attribute difficulty forming speech or a propensity to confuse words with each other to a person's attitudes or intelligence.

I didn't let it pass when it was Bush, so I'll be damned if I'll stay silent while people try to do the same to Obama, whom unlike Bush I actually like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slUq0vNM ... r_embedded

Watch the video instead of just blindly talking crap, people. It could have happened to anybody.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:45 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Not everyone can remember all of the speech so well, I don't necessarily blame anyone. He was elected to run the country, not have to be 100% perfect in remembering a speech for any given day on the spot with a gun to his head.


The things people say regardless of telemprompters being with them... I can't take this as a good point.


What people choose to say isn't what you were asking. I answered your question already, you added another point on after the fact. We don't pay him to be an actor, at least I hope that's not all people judge the guy leading their god damn country, anyway.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:47 pm

William Delaney III wrote:Actually...

I suffer from a bit of a stutter, and I actually felt very offended over the way people made an issue over some of Bush's slips. You shouldn't attribute difficulty forming speech or a propensity to confuse words with each other to a person's attitudes or intelligence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slUq0vNM ... r_embedded

Watch the video instead of just blindly talking crap, people. It could have happened to anybody.


Yeah, it's not nearly as bad as the OP claims it to be.
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The Rich Port
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Postby The Rich Port » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:49 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:

The things people say regardless of telemprompters being with them... I can't take this as a good point.


What people choose to say isn't what you were asking. I answered your question already, you added another point on after the fact. We don't pay him to be an actor, at least I hope that's not all people judge the guy leading their god damn country, anyway.


Forgive me for that. :lol:

You are right, totally different thread.
LAUGH, AND GROW FAT
FIRE. IF IT TAKES YOU TO BURN.
FIRE. IF IT TAKES YOU TO LEARN.
FIRE. TO DESTROY ALL YOU'VE DONE.
FIRE. TO DESTROY ALL YOU'VE BECOME.
THOSE THAT SOW THORNS SHOULD NOT EXPECT FLOWERS.
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