Why?Why do you all hate communism?

[The Murtunian Tribes]

you could pay $400,000 in america... or $1500 in cuba.

can you afford a 400,000 dollar treatment, when you would recieve identical treatment 103 miles south of florida, for 398,500 dollars cheaper?

You ever heard the expression "You get what you pay for"?

Just because it's cheaper to get treatment in Cuba doesn't mean that you'll receive better care.

If you want liposuction you can either go to an actual doctor, or have one of your friends stick a vacuum up your ass and switch it to suck instead of blow.

1000 ways to die...

[Sanguinthium]

You ever heard the expression "You get what you pay for"?

Just because it's cheaper to get treatment in Cuba doesn't mean that you'll receive better care.

If you want liposuction you can either go to an actual doctor, or have one of your friends stick a vacuum up your ass and switch it to suck instead of blow.

1000 ways to die...

was that an actual episode? that sounds like the kind of retard move someone on that would try.

[The Warrior Hearted]

You ever heard the expression "You get what you pay for"?

Just because it's cheaper to get treatment in Cuba doesn't mean that you'll receive better care.

If you want liposuction you can either go to an actual doctor, or have one of your friends stick a vacuum up your ass and switch it to suck instead of blow.

its the same medicine, the same treatment. the "you get what you pay for" only applies to CAPITALISM

not really

there is a reason there is a large difference in average life span

[Useran]

its the same medicine, the same treatment. the "you get what you pay for" only applies to CAPITALISM

I would like to see some hard evidence that it was the exact same medicine and the exact same treatment.

You can't just "take medicine" to get rid of lung problems caused by what the first responders went through. You need follow up exams and such.

And I would like to know why so many Cubans risk life and limb to come to the United States if Cuba is such a humanitarian paradise.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

You ever heard the expression "You get what you pay for"?

Just because it's cheaper to get treatment in Cuba doesn't mean that you'll receive better care.

If you want liposuction you can either go to an actual doctor, or have one of your friends stick a vacuum up your ass and switch it to suck instead of blow.

its the same medicine, the same treatment. the "you get what you pay for" only applies to CAPITALISM

No, it is not the same treatment. Whether you like it or not health care facilities in America are superior to those in Cuba. Just because their healthcare happens to be subsidized by the government does not mean ANYTHING. Now, if you were to say, "I think healthcare in America would be improved by universalizing/socializing it," that would be a different discussion altogether. But socialized medicine is not somehow magically better than any other healthcare system just BECAUSE it's socialized. That's just being willfully ignorant.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

1000 ways to die...

was that an actual episode? that sounds like the kind of retard move someone on that would try.

Uhhhhhhhhh...yea, that's typically what you find on that show. Thanks Captain Obvious, wouldn't know what to do without ya.

ANyway yea, it was an actual episode.

[Useran]

No, it is not the same treatment. Whether you like it or not health care facilities in America are superior to those in Cuba. Just because their healthcare happens to be subsidized by the government does not mean ANYTHING.

This.

[Sanguinthium]

its the same medicine, the same treatment. the "you get what you pay for" only applies to CAPITALISM

I would like to see some hard evidence that it was the exact same medicine and the exact same treatment.

You can't just "take medicine" to get rid of lung problems caused by what the first responders went through. You need follow up exams and such.

And I would like to know why so many Cubans risk life and limb to come to the United States if Cuba is such a humanitarian paradise.

watch the damn documentary than.

its not a humanitarian paradise.

the average life expectancy in cuba is 77.7 years. thats higher than americas, if i recall. (doesnt seperate between sexes, btw) 52 highest in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html

[Lessnt]

Really people what the hell is wrong with communism?!?!Ive heard very hateful things about communism,and i want to know your dang reasons for it!

It failed.
It was an enemy of the winner.
The losers get a pretty bad rap when the winner becomes all powerful.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

I would like to see some hard evidence that it was the exact same medicine and the exact same treatment.

You can't just "take medicine" to get rid of lung problems caused by what the first responders went through. You need follow up exams and such.

And I would like to know why so many Cubans risk life and limb to come to the United States if Cuba is such a humanitarian paradise.

watch the damn documentary than.

its not a humanitarian paradise.

the average life expectancy in cuba is 77.7 years. thats higher than americas, if i recall. (doesnt seperate between sexes, btw) 52 highest in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html

Actually Cuba's IS lower, but only very slightly. I blame it on the schools.

[Sanguinthium]

No, it is not the same treatment. Whether you like it or not health care facilities in America are superior to those in Cuba. Just because their healthcare happens to be subsidized by the government does not mean ANYTHING.

This.

a doctor is a doctor. it really makes no difference; i dont understand why you guys think cuba is populated by a bunch of shaved apes in doctor suits.

[Useran]

watch the damn documentary than.

its not a humanitarian paradise.

the average life expectancy in cuba is 77.7 years. thats higher than americas, if i recall. (doesnt seperate between sexes, btw) 52 highest in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html

The average life expectancy in the US is 78.37. Cuba is 77.70.



And I prefer to watch documentaries that have a factual basis. Which rules out about 90% of Michael Moore's work.

[The Warrior Hearted]

This.

a doctor is a doctor. it really makes no difference; i dont understand why you guys think cuba is populated by a bunch of shaved apes in doctor suits.

there amount of training and reason for doing a good job does vary rather extensively though

[Sanguinthium]

watch the damn documentary than.

its not a humanitarian paradise.

the average life expectancy in cuba is 77.7 years. thats higher than americas, if i recall. (doesnt seperate between sexes, btw) 52 highest in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html

The average life expectancy in the US is 78.7.

And I prefer to watch documentaries that have a factual basis. Which rules out about 90% of Michael Moore's work.

factual.. it showed him taking them by boat, breaking the law because of the american EMBARGO on cuba, then going into a cuban pharmacy, purchacing from the pharmacist, and interviewing the people about their medicine bills. its entirely factual..

[Lessnt]

This.

a doctor is a doctor. it really makes no difference; i dont understand why you guys think cuba is populated by a bunch of shaved apes in doctor suits.

A great licensed doctor is safer and more effective than an unlicensed bad doctor.

[Terra Agora]

lemme guess, your either in Russia or China.

And you dont know much about what your nation was really like under "communism"

Even if he is from Russia or China, it doesn't matter. Neither country is or was communist.

Maoism (China) and Stalinism (Russia) are both forms of communism.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

This.

a doctor is a doctor. it really makes no difference; i dont understand why you guys think cuba is populated by a bunch of shaved apes in doctor suits.

Haha, no. A doctor is NOT a doctor, that's why we have medical licensing programs and malpractice suits. I have a question; are you actually Cuban or are you just completely blowing smoke out your ass?

[Sanguinthium]

a doctor is a doctor. it really makes no difference; i dont understand why you guys think cuba is populated by a bunch of shaved apes in doctor suits.

there amount of training and reason for doing a good job does vary rather extensively though

in america, there is still no penalty if your patient dies under the knife. there isnt one in cuba either. since the government pays the doctors, the reason to do a good job is so that you dont get fired. russian born, live in america. cuba libre.

[Useran]

factual.. it showed him taking them by boat, breaking the law because of the american EMBARGO on cuba, then going into a cuban pharmacy, purchacing from the pharmacist, and interviewing the people about their medicine bills. its entirely factual..

One of his documentaries also showed him waltzing into a bank and buying a gun. They edited out a vast majority of it to make it seem easier than it actually is.

I refuse to believe anything in that man's documentaries until they can be verified by an outside source.

[Sanguinthium]

factual.. it showed him taking them by boat, breaking the law because of the american EMBARGO on cuba, then going into a cuban pharmacy, purchacing from the pharmacist, and interviewing the people about their medicine bills. its entirely factual..

One of his documentaries also showed him waltzing into a bank and buying a gun. They edited out a vast majority of it to make it seem easier than it actually is.

I refuse to believe anything in that man's documentaries until they can be verified by an outside source.

did you watch that documentary? besides, acording the the World health organizaiton, OMAN has better healthcare than america. Oman is a third world country?

[The Murtunian Tribes]

watch the damn documentary than.

its not a humanitarian paradise.

the average life expectancy in cuba is 77.7 years. thats higher than americas, if i recall. (doesnt seperate between sexes, btw) 52 highest in the world.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/cu.html

The average life expectancy in the US is 78.37. Cuba is 77.70.



And I prefer to watch documentaries that have a factual basis. Which rules out about 90% of Michael Moore's work.

Michael Moore is just Rush Limbaugh's also evil twin. Any of his work is automatically not a valid source as far as I'm concerned.

[The Warrior Hearted]

there amount of training and reason for doing a good job does vary rather extensively though

in america, there is still no penalty if your patient dies under the knife. there isnt one in cuba either. since the government pays the doctors, the reason to do a good job is so that you dont get fired. my parents were in cuba, but left before the embargo. from texas. not cuban ethnically though.
cuba libre.

Actually, in america, if someone dies because the doctor SCREWED UP they can be taken to court and stripped of not only there license, but a rather large chunk of money as well.

[Useran]

did you watch that documentary?

After the torrent of bullshit that was "Bowling For Columbine" and part of "Fahrenheit 9/11" I see no need to watch any more of his stuff.

The man is fucking joke.

Michael Moore is just Rush Limbaugh's also evil twin. Any of his work is automatically not a valid source as far as I'm concerned.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[7ARC]

Because communism, my friend, is a red herring. All of the major state-run "communist" countries were just that, state-run dictatorships that called themselves communist countries. So, in essence, no one really hates communism, they just hate how it was used and then associate the term with regimes such as Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc.

[The Murtunian Tribes]

Because communism, my friend, is a red herring. All of the major state-run "communist" countries were just that, state-run dictatorships that called themselves communist countries. So, in essence, no one really hates communism, they just hate how it was used and then associate the term with regimes such as Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc.

*Raises hand* I hate communism. I actually do find the theory to be somewhat anti-human and distasteful. It's attempts to vilify competition and individuality sicken me to the core.