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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:48 pm

Bitchkitten wrote:Reminds me of a funny story.

When my gay friend came to stay with me and my mildly homophobic boyfriend (he'd deny it) he was a bit uncomfortable. He asked me if my friend had ever been with a woman. I told him "no."

"Well how does he know he's gay?"
"Tony, have you ever been with a guy?"
A slight offended "No."
"Then how do you know you're straight?"
He got the point.

I think this is the best explanation thusfar, or close to it. It involves experience, at any rate.

I would suggest that for most homosexual men, they eventually get close enough to a woman, probably in a sexual context, and just go, "Whoa, this isn't for me." Coupled with the opposite happening when they do the same with a man, that leads to a more solid identity.

However, I don't think anyone always feels 100% solid. There's always someone to whom a straight man will think, "I'm straight, but damn if he isn't just a little attractive," and again, the same (but opposite, obviously) with homosexual men.

I personally don't think one should ever say that they have a sexual (or romantic) identity until they've actually been in such a relationship mainly for this reason.
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Postby Khalifa Arabia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:51 pm

I smell a troll...
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Postby Patoma » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:56 pm

Khalifa Arabia wrote:I smell a troll...

Troll? If you do then you are the one planning on trolling.

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Postby Kreanoltha » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:06 pm

I can tell you how I know I'm straight. I get turned on by women. I don't get turned on by men; even ones that are supposed to be hot. I'd imagine that it is somewhat similar for gays, but with the roles reversed.

1000 Cats wrote:However, I don't think anyone always feels 100% solid. There's always someone to whom a straight man will think, "I'm straight, but damn if he isn't just a little attractive," and again, the same (but opposite, obviously) with homosexual men.

I personally don't think one should ever say that they have a sexual (or romantic) identity until they've actually been in such a relationship mainly for this reason.


I have to disagree. I've never seen a man that I've thought I'd want to screw. Sometimes I have to wonder what it is about us that women find attractive.
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Postby Patoma » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:15 pm

The thing is, it is so hard to prove that deep down we all don't have some unsatisfactory desire when we engage in a man to man relationship any any form of other relationship. It could be argue that we are denial of our capability by limiting our affection or attraction to a certain sex.

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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:08 pm

Kreanoltha wrote:I can tell you how I know I'm straight. I get turned on by women. I don't get turned on by men; even ones that are supposed to be hot. I'd imagine that it is somewhat similar for gays, but with the roles reversed.

1000 Cats wrote:However, I don't think anyone always feels 100% solid. There's always someone to whom a straight man will think, "I'm straight, but damn if he isn't just a little attractive," and again, the same (but opposite, obviously) with homosexual men.

I personally don't think one should ever say that they have a sexual (or romantic) identity until they've actually been in such a relationship mainly for this reason.


I have to disagree. I've never seen a man that I've thought I'd want to screw. Sometimes I have to wonder what it is about us that women find attractive.

Hmm. No romantic attraction either? I may stand corrected, but I would still say that most people aren't 100% homo or hetero.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:10 pm

Patoma wrote:The thing is, it is so hard to prove that deep down we all don't have some unsatisfactory desire when we engage in a man to man relationship any any form of other relationship. It could be argue that we are denial of our capability by limiting our affection or attraction to a certain sex.

Sometimes. There are a lot of people who insist, "No, I'm straight!" even though, in private, they will admit attraction to certain individuals that contradicts that. I'm sure there are similar situations with certain homosexual people. That's the problem with identity and self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Postby Copiosa Scotia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:15 pm

OP, how do you know you're straight? It's like that.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:24 pm

Patoma wrote:how you particularly know that you are gay


You appear on the gaydar, and whenever you pass near a kindergarten, the kids abandon themselves to unnatural fornication because of your gaywaves. *nod*
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:26 pm

1000 Cats wrote:I personally don't think one should ever say that they have a sexual (or romantic) identity until they've actually been in such a relationship mainly for this reason.

Then I assume I should say something like "I'm 100% straight, since 23 years".
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:26 pm

Risottia wrote:
Patoma wrote:how you particularly know that you are gay


You appear on the gaydar, and whenever you pass near a kindergarten, the kids abandon themselves to unnatural fornication because of your gaywaves. *nod*


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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Risottia wrote:
You appear on the gaydar, and whenever you pass near a kindergarten, the kids abandon themselves to unnatural fornication because of your gaywaves. *nod*


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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:37 pm

Risottia wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:I personally don't think one should ever say that they have a sexual (or romantic) identity until they've actually been in such a relationship mainly for this reason.

Then I assume I should say something like "I'm 100% straight, since 23 years".

You should? Why?
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:41 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:Then I assume I should say something like "I'm 100% straight, since 23 years".

You should? Why?

I would have assumed it was easy to guess why.
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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:45 pm

Risottia wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:You should? Why?

I would have assumed it was easy to guess why.

It's not. If you've been in a relationship for however long, have no interest in same-sex romance, you're straight. Always were. I don't get where you assumed one should attach a percentage and timeframe to it. Simply that labeling yourself beforehand (before you've had any experience with relationships) is a tad too soon and may well just end up confusing yourself.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:49 pm

Khalifa Arabia wrote:I smell a troll...

Trolls write with perfect syntax and wouldn't ask such a bafflingly bizarre question.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:50 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:I would have assumed it was easy to guess why.

It's not. ... I don't get where you assumed one should attach a percentage and timeframe to it.


Well, you said one can know only after he tried, right?
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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:52 pm

Risottia wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:It's not. ... I don't get where you assumed one should attach a percentage and timeframe to it.


Well, you said one can know only after he tried, right?

Correct. Not one can only be.
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Postby Killikstan » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:52 pm

I would probably fuck Henry Rollins. Or rather, I wouldn't be as resistant to him having his way with me as I would any other dude.

I'm not particularly attracted to women on average, but the thought of being a participant in manlove is pretty repulsive to me. So I suppose by virtue of it being less digusting, I am straight.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:55 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Well, you said one can know only after he tried, right?

Correct. Not one can only be.

Then, I'm 100% straight since 23 years.
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Postby Aquophia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:56 pm

Here is a simple test to find out.

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Postby 1000 Cats » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:57 pm

Risottia wrote:
1000 Cats wrote:Correct. Not one can only be.

Then, I'm 100% straight since 23 years.

So you were gay or bi before?
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:58 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:Then, I'm 100% straight since 23 years.

So you were gay or bi before?

Risottia is just using the wrong word :P
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Postby Red Indus » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:58 pm

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:Then, I'm 100% straight since 23 years.

So you were gay or bi before?

how does that work

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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:02 am

1000 Cats wrote:
Risottia wrote:Then, I'm 100% straight since 23 years.

So you were gay or bi before?

Evidently I was at least bicurious before. Tried. Definitely, I prefer women so much I never got interested in another man again.
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