Apple, Microsoft, or Linux?

[Maurepas]

i have Windows, Mac is harder to find, more expensive, and it feels alot more fragile...

[Mikertaz Kein]

Noone said that Vista was a BAD OS, just that it is slower than WIN ME(Which I have proven myself) and has various compatibility issues...

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

Vista is fine if you have powerful enough hardware to run it.

[Mikertaz Kein]

But the PRICE is not worth it is what I am getting at...

[Inchland]

Noone said that Vista was a BAD OS, just that it is slower than WIN ME(Which I have proven myself) and has various compatibility issues...

Slower than WIN ME??? Is that even possible?

[Conserative Morality]

EVERYTHING is faster than Vista. Even Bill Gates said Vista Sucks!

Vista is an excellent OS. It has it's fair share of problems, but Anti-Microsoft Fanboyism has inflated these problems to seem much worse than they actually are.

[Mikertaz Kein]

Noone said that Vista was a BAD OS, just that it is slower than WIN ME(Which I have proven myself) and has various compatibility issues...

Slower than WIN ME??? Is that even possible?

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

But the PRICE is not worth it is what I am getting at...

huh?

[Conserative Morality]

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

For some strange reason, I don't believe you.

[Inchland]

Noone said that Vista was a BAD OS, just that it is slower than WIN ME(Which I have proven myself) and has various compatibility issues...

Slower than WIN ME??? Is that even possible?

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

Thats amazing! The last computer i had before my mac was an ME, the fact that it was so slow was why i got the mac...

[Mikertaz Kein]

EVERYTHING is faster than Vista. Even Bill Gates said Vista Sucks!

Vista is an excellent OS. It has it's fair share of problems, but Anti-Microsoft Fanboyism has inflated these problems to seem much worse than they actually are.

Indeed.

But then again, Mac OSX isn't as bad as Windows fanboys make it out to be...

[Wilgrove]

Noone said that Vista was a BAD OS, just that it is slower than WIN ME(Which I have proven myself) and has various compatibility issues...

Slower than WIN ME??? Is that even possible?

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

What is the hardware specs of your Laptop with Vista on it?

[British Prussia]

Here's what you do, get a top of the line mac pro ($6000) with Snow Leopard, then get Bootcamp, after-which you'll be all good...
but, if u want to spend less, get a PC with windows 7 installed, don't event think of getting Vista...


http://www.apple.com/macpro/

Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 series processors
* 8MB of fully shared L3 cache per processor
* Integrated memory controller
* Turbo Boost dynamic performance (up to 3.33GHz on 8-core 2.93GHz system)
* Hyper-Threading technology for up to 16 virtual cores
* 128-bit SSE4 SIMD engine
* 64-bit data paths and registers
* Optimized for energy efficiency
1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
Eight memory slots (four per processor) supporting up to 32GB of main memory using 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB DIMMs

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
* NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port
* ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port

Intel Xeon
# Multiple graphics card configurations available with two, three, or four NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 cards
# Support for up to eight 30-inch displays 1
# Support for digital resolutions up to 2560 by 1600 pixels
# Support for analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

Here's what you do, get a top of the line mac pro ($6000) with Snow Leopard, then get Bootcamp, after-which you'll be all good...


http://www.apple.com/macpro/

Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 series processors
* 8MB of fully shared L3 cache per processor
* Integrated memory controller
* Turbo Boost dynamic performance (up to 3.33GHz on 8-core 2.93GHz system)
* Hyper-Threading technology for up to 16 virtual cores
* 128-bit SSE4 SIMD engine
* 64-bit data paths and registers
* Optimized for energy efficiency
1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
Eight memory slots (four per processor) supporting up to 32GB of main memory using 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB DIMMs

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
* NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port
* ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port

Intel Xeon
# Multiple graphics card configurations available with two, three, or four NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 cards
# Support for up to eight 30-inch displays 1
# Support for digital resolutions up to 2560 by 1600 pixels
# Support for analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet

Or build it yourself for half the cost and stick an apple sticker on the side of the case.

[Mexar]

I've never tried ME. I have tried both Win 95 & 98, and they probably ARE faster than Vista. However, they were not BETTER than Vista. Bad as Vista is, it seldom crashed on me, which I can't say about the older versions of Doze. 95 once crashed 15 times in a day (yes, I counted them).

[British Prussia]

Here's what you do, get a top of the line mac pro ($6000) with Snow Leopard, then get Bootcamp, after-which you'll be all good...


http://www.apple.com/macpro/

Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 series processors
* 8MB of fully shared L3 cache per processor
* Integrated memory controller
* Turbo Boost dynamic performance (up to 3.33GHz on 8-core 2.93GHz system)
* Hyper-Threading technology for up to 16 virtual cores
* 128-bit SSE4 SIMD engine
* 64-bit data paths and registers
* Optimized for energy efficiency
1066MHz DDR3 ECC SDRAM
Eight memory slots (four per processor) supporting up to 32GB of main memory using 1GB, 2GB, or 4GB DIMMs

Double-wide, 16-lane PCI Express 2.0 graphics slot with one of the following graphics cards installed:
* NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 with 512MB of GDDR3 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port
* ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB of GDDR5 memory, PCI Express 2.0, one Mini DisplayPort, and one dual-link DVI port

Intel Xeon
# Multiple graphics card configurations available with two, three, or four NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 cards
# Support for up to eight 30-inch displays 1
# Support for digital resolutions up to 2560 by 1600 pixels
# Support for analog resolutions up to 2048 by 1536 pixels
Maximum operating altitude: 10,000 feet

Or build it yourself for half the cost and stick an apple sticker on the side of the case.

That could work.....

[British Prussia]

I've never tried ME. I have tried both Win 95 & 98, and they probably ARE faster than Vista. However, they were not BETTER than Vista. Bad as Vista is, it seldom crashed on me, which I can't say about the older versions of Doze. 95 once crashed 15 times in a day (yes, I counted them).

Just get Windows 7...
Problem solved...

[Mikertaz Kein]

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

For some strange reason, I don't believe you.

OK, I will try to play this out as best as I can.


When I boot up WIN Vista, I have to wait 2-3 min before I can log on, then another 30sec for it to load fully. The programs(esp Firefox) Take long periods(20-30 sec) to load up. The system is buggy(ignores certain commands, volume bar gets stuck, closes programs for no reason).


When I boot up WIN Me, I wait 1 min for it to boot, 15 sec after I log in, and I can use it right when I log in. I dont have to wait for it to fully start, nor does it act as buggy. I have no speed issues, Firefox(2.x, cuz 3.x isn't compatible with ME) boots quickly, and I never have any performance issues.

But that is my experience...

[Mikertaz Kein]

I've never tried ME. I have tried both Win 95 & 98, and they probably ARE faster than Vista. However, they were not BETTER than Vista. Bad as Vista is, it seldom crashed on me, which I can't say about the older versions of Doze. 95 once crashed 15 times in a day (yes, I counted them).

Just get Windows 7...
Problem solved...

Ah, but as long as Win7 is Beta, the problems are not solved...

[British Prussia]

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

For some strange reason, I don't believe you.

OK, I will try to play this out as best as I can.


When I boot up WIN Vista, I have to wait 2-3 min before I can log on, then another 30sec for it to load fully. The programs(esp Firefox) Take long periods(20-30 sec) to load up. The system is buggy(ignores certain commands, volume bar gets stuck, closes programs for no reason).


When I boot up WIN Me, I wait 1 min for it to boot, 15 sec after I log in, and I can use it right when I log in. I dont have to wait for it to fully start, nor does it act as buggy. I have no speed issues, Firefox(2.x, cuz 3.x isn't compatible with ME) boots quickly, and I never have any performance issues.

But that is my experience...

Do you have Firefox 3.5.2?
Cause that loads faster...
But as i suggested b4, get windows 7...

[Inchland]

My WIN ME crashed..... a lot

[British Prussia]

I've never tried ME. I have tried both Win 95 & 98, and they probably ARE faster than Vista. However, they were not BETTER than Vista. Bad as Vista is, it seldom crashed on me, which I can't say about the older versions of Doze. 95 once crashed 15 times in a day (yes, I counted them).

Just get Windows 7...
Problem solved...

Ah, but as long as Win7 is Beta, the problems are not solved...

The public release version is coming out end of October, start of November, all u have to do is wait....

[Mikertaz Kein]

Do you have Firefox 3.5.2?
Cause that loads faster...
But as i suggested b4, get windows 7...

Yes. I want Win7, but I refuse to get it as long as it remains in Beta Testing. When they can say it is actually finished, I will install it.

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

I have two laptops,

1) Runs Windows Vista on a new HP Core 2 Duo Laptop

2) Win ME on a Toshiba Portege 7010.


ME Ran not only FASTER but BETTER than Vista...

For some strange reason, I don't believe you.

OK, I will try to play this out as best as I can.


When I boot up WIN Vista, I have to wait 2-3 min before I can log on, then another 30sec for it to load fully. The programs(esp Firefox) Take long periods(20-30 sec) to load up. The system is buggy(ignores certain commands, volume bar gets stuck, closes programs for no reason).


When I boot up WIN Me, I wait 1 min for it to boot, 15 sec after I log in, and I can use it right when I log in. I dont have to wait for it to fully start, nor does it act as buggy. I have no speed issues, Firefox(2.x, cuz 3.x isn't compatible with ME) boots quickly, and I never have any performance issues.

But that is my experience...

HP installs bloatware on their computers which usually reduce performance. Try a clean install of Vista. What are the full specs?

[British Prussia]

Do you have Firefox 3.5.2?
Cause that loads faster...
But as i suggested b4, get windows 7...

Yes. I want Win7, but I refuse to get it as long as it remains in Beta Testing. When they can say it is actually finished, I will install it.

Wait till end of October-start of November.
Think it comes out on Oct 28...