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Apple, Microsoft, or Linux?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:21 pm

"The much hyped built-in malware protection into Apple's Snow Leopard upgrade appears to be nothing more than a XProtect.plist file containing five signatures for two of the most popular Mac OS X trojans."


Wait, so Mac isn't virus-proof? Well, thanks to this information everyone that I have ever known to buy a Mac bought it for the wrong reason. The slow system, buggy interface, and random crashes are not worth the non-existent virus-shield.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139&tag=nl.e539
I am sure Dell/HP fanboys will back me up...


Myself, I run neither. I have a homebuilt PC that suits my advanced needs. I also run Linux, the only OS that has yet to give me a virus.

Enter the Mac supporters...
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Inchland » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:24 pm

Sorry, but i have to say mac all the way :)
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:25 pm

Also,

64-bit Snow Leopard defaults to 32-bit kernel

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-336194.html?tag=nl.e539
and

Ed Bott says, "Snow Leopard is a lot like a Windows service pack

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1275&tag=nl.e539
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Yootopia » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:25 pm

Microsoft, because I have a scanner if I need artsy shite.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby KaIashnikov » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:25 pm

I challenge you to a right click duel.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Northern Delmarva » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:26 pm

Mac, I also have windows on mine via BootCamp, its a win-win. :p
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:26 pm

KaIashnikov wrote:I challenge you to a right click duel.

:rofl:

Is funny cuz Macs are deformed...

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Gauthier » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:27 pm

The reason for the apparent virus-proofing of a Mac is because it's not as widespread and in use like PCs are. If Macs were the hardware and OS of choice through the information society there'd have been a bonanza of Mac-specific virus long ago.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:27 pm

Northern Delmarva wrote:Mac, I also have windows on mine via BootCamp, its a win-win. :p


I cannot find out how to run emulators on Linux. I have a Windows PC the emu's Linux and OSX, but I cannot find the files!

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:30 pm

I’m reprinting a chart he put together from Apple’s documentation, listing which features are available for each family of Macs. I added color coding (red if a feature is unavailable, yellow if it’s partially enabled) to make the chart a bit easier to read (the chart is available after the jump):


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Hmm... Alot of mac users are going to shit over this...

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Poliwanacraca » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:32 pm

I've owned both Macs and PCs. They're both good for different things. I really don't understand the obsessive fanboy love/hatred on this topic.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby The Grand World Order » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:38 pm

PC all the way.

The only things I see Macs as useful are...

-Using as a boat anchor
-Matching your chic decor
-Using the fancy image editor (Which is negated by the fact that you can just download paint.NET for free)
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-Making someone commit suicide (By giving it to them as a gift, presuming they cannot get a PC)
-Pissing off your friends because NOTHING WORKS on a Mac
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:39 pm

Are Mac Rumors out of control?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=23424&tag=nl.e539

Also, so as to pick on microsoft a bit...

SKYPE injecting Trojans into data streams?
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4133&tag=nl.e589

They are all very interesting topics...

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:40 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:PC all the way.

The only things I see Macs as useful are...

-Using as a boat anchor
-Matching your chic decor
-Using the fancy image editor (Which is negated by the fact that you can just download paint.NET for free)
-A blunt weapon
-Making someone commit suicide (By giving it to them as a gift, presuming they cannot get a PC)
-Pissing off your friends because NOTHING WORKS on a Mac



Wile I encourage your PC love, I must say that many of the after comments are not very intelligent. I, for one, would keep it so that I can...um...well, I would still keep it...

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:43 pm

Microsoft, I don't like the feel nor the performance of Macs.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Inchland » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:43 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:PC all the way.

The only things I see Macs as useful are...

-Using as a boat anchor
-Matching your chic decor
-Using the fancy image editor (Which is negated by the fact that you can just download paint.NET for free)
-A blunt weapon
-Making someone commit suicide (By giving it to them as a gift, presuming they cannot get a PC)
-Pissing off your friends because NOTHING WORKS on a Mac


If you look for something hard enough for a mac EVERYTHING works when you want it to...
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Kantria » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:45 pm

Poliwanacraca wrote:I've owned both Macs and PCs. They're both good for different things. I really don't understand the obsessive fanboy love/hatred on this topic.


The Mac television advertisements have driven me to hate Mac. The systems themselves, I've never had a problem with, but I refuse to give my money to a company that will spend them on advertisements that do nothing but sell Macs by attacking PCs and their owners. Yes, their owners. Implicitly, of course, but they're doing it!

Also, I like to play computer games, so screw Mac. Windows might suck, but it suits my needs just fine, thank you.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:46 pm

Inchland wrote:If you look for something hard enough for a mac EVERYTHING works when you want it to...

Whereas if you glance over with the least exertion of effort for a PC, everything works, when you want it, how you want it, and for a fraction of the cost. :meh:
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mexar » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:46 pm

Mikertaz Kein wrote:
"The much hyped built-in malware protection into Apple's Snow Leopard upgrade appears to be nothing more than a XProtect.plist file containing five signatures for two of the most popular Mac OS X trojans."


Wait, so Mac isn't virus-proof? Well, thanks to this information everyone that I have ever known to buy a Mac bought it for the wrong reason. The slow system, buggy interface, and random crashes are not worth the non-existent virus-shield.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139&tag=nl.e539
I am sure Dell/HP fanboys will back me up...


Myself, I run neither. I have a homebuilt PC that suits my advanced needs. I also run Linux, the only OS that has yet to give me a virus.

Enter the Mac supporters...


Regarding viruses, the Mac's not perfect (and neither is Linux), but it's still better than Windows. I've never had random crashes, and the interface is less buggy than Windows (but not as good as some Mac users claim). I will admit that the Mac is slower than XP, but it's faster than Vista.

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Inchland » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:48 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Inchland wrote:If you look for something hard enough for a mac EVERYTHING works when you want it to...

Whereas if you glance over with the least exertion of effort for a PC, everything works, when you want it, how you want it, and for a fraction of the cost. :meh:


Meh, i find most things i need for my mac can be found somewhere online for free
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:48 pm

They both do the same thing. PCs just cost less.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:48 pm

Inchland wrote:
The Grand World Order wrote:PC all the way.

The only things I see Macs as useful are...

-Using as a boat anchor
-Matching your chic decor
-Using the fancy image editor (Which is negated by the fact that you can just download paint.NET for free)
-A blunt weapon
-Making someone commit suicide (By giving it to them as a gift, presuming they cannot get a PC)
-Pissing off your friends because NOTHING WORKS on a Mac


If you look for something hard enough for a mac EVERYTHING works when you want it to...


waitwut?

Everything WORKS, the question is, does it work WELL.

With a mac, I get reasonable performance and reasonable quality at a ridiculous price.

But Microsoft isn't all that much better.


That is why I use a homemade computer. Cheap and Powerful. Sleek and Efficient. I could install and play GTAIV right now...if I wasn't using the dinosaur Diamond 2001 Stealth64 Video Card with 1 MB VRAM.

But, if I upgrade my video card, my computer will be perfect in my eyes...

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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:49 pm

Having seen the PC vs Mac adverts, I decided both were total dicks who I'd never let into my house.

This is why I'm writing this on an old typewriter which connects to the internet through a large array of steam-driven tubes.

For a monitor, I use an old black and white portable television.

I lied.
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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Mikertaz Kein » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:50 pm

Mexar wrote:
Mikertaz Kein wrote:
"The much hyped built-in malware protection into Apple's Snow Leopard upgrade appears to be nothing more than a XProtect.plist file containing five signatures for two of the most popular Mac OS X trojans."


Wait, so Mac isn't virus-proof? Well, thanks to this information everyone that I have ever known to buy a Mac bought it for the wrong reason. The slow system, buggy interface, and random crashes are not worth the non-existent virus-shield.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4139&tag=nl.e539
I am sure Dell/HP fanboys will back me up...


Myself, I run neither. I have a homebuilt PC that suits my advanced needs. I also run Linux, the only OS that has yet to give me a virus.

Enter the Mac supporters...


Regarding viruses, the Mac's not perfect (and neither is Linux), but it's still better than Windows. I've never had random crashes, and the interface is less buggy than Windows (but not as good as some Mac users claim). I will admit that the Mac is slower than XP, but it's faster than Vista.




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Re: Mac or Microsoft?

Postby Wilgrove » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:51 pm

I have Window Vista and I never had problems with it. Except a hard drive crash, but I doubt that could be attributed to Vista.

Now to wait for people to blame it on Vista.

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