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the fall of USA?

Postby Stalinleninmao » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:40 pm

the united states of america is declining thanks to capitalism and hes corrup form of goverment...we shoul all be socialist or communist.and
now russia for 2012 wants to change to an conservative socialism and note the rise of china too.... capitalism sucks....what you think????
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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:43 pm

i think the op is impossible to read or interpret
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Postby Tiami » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:44 pm

Katganistan wrote:I don't think I understand the question.

What Kat said.
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:45 pm

Katganistan wrote:I don't think I understand the question.


"I believe Stalin was great, never killed anybody, and brought equality to all within the U.S.S.R. America is falling apart due to Capitalism because I like to think I understand Marxist thought that Lenin and Stalin so "followed", but I really don't. You should agree with me, or I will deny your existence and label you some form of capitalist<animal>. What do you think?
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Postby Valrez » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:45 pm

Capitalism certainly isn't the cause of the recession, I can guarantee you that. I can also guarantee that trying to help the recession through government intervention only makes it worse.
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Postby Calldar » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:46 pm

Stalinleninmao wrote: and note the rise of china too capitalism suck....what you think????



I think the fact that China is becoming more and more capitalistic, whilst still growing stronger directly contradicts your incoherent "point".
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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:46 pm

No, I disagree.
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Postby Southern Patriots » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:46 pm

Another of these threads?

Mods, can we just have a USA collapse/debt megathread?

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:48 pm

Calldar wrote:
Stalinleninmao wrote: and note the rise of china too capitalism suck....what you think????



I think the fact that China is becoming more and more capitalistic, whilst still growing stronger directly contradicts your incoherent "point".

Besides, the US was always under a capitalist system... strange to blame its fall on the very thing which helped it to rise.
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:50 pm

I'm not sure what language that was supposed to be but in response to the title the United States is in decline because our political system is designed to be adversarial. Two forces push against each other and the result in a vaccum is that we always move forward, however at this point Democrats refuse to vote on republican legislation or in any way that might upset the people funding their campaigns and the Republicans do the same. The result is politicians who consider the wishes and well being of their constituents third priority and a system that is in no way democratic. It's a problem that can't be fixed without serious fundamental changes to the way we conduct business and that can't be done because if you break the mold your party drops you.
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Postby NewIndependentcanada » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:50 pm

Soon the yankee devils will fall and the Canadian Empire will take over! :evil:
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Postby Hungramy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:51 pm

:rofl: Your funny OP, Communism and Socialism ain't any good just look at the USSR...oh wait it not there anymore now is it?

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Postby New Octopucta » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:54 pm

Considering Communist Russia no longer exist, and isn't an American-born citizen, it can't run for president.

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Postby Augarundus » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:54 pm

Stalinleninmao wrote:the united states of america is declining thanks to capitalism and hes corrup form of goverment...we shoul all be socialist or communist.and
now russia for 2012 wants to change to an conservative socialism and note the rise of china too.... capitalism sucks....what you think????

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Postby United Dependencies » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:57 pm

New Octopucta wrote:Considering Communist Russia no longer exist, and isn't an American-born citizen, it can't run for president.

:lol2:
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Tiami » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:58 pm

New Octopucta wrote:Considering Communist Russia no longer exist, and isn't an American-born citizen, it can't run for president.

:lol:
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Postby NewIndependentcanada » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:58 pm

Your all fools the glorious nation of Canada will annex the American pigs.
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Postby Tiami » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:59 pm

NewIndependentcanada wrote:Your all fools the glorious nation of Canada will annex the American pigs.

That's not nice.
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Postby Hungramy » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:59 pm

NewIndependentcanada wrote:Your all fools the glorious nation of Canada will annex the American pigs.

This...is...even...more...funnier :rofl:

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Postby The Warrior Hearted » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:00 pm

NewIndependentcanada wrote:Your all fools the glorious nation of Canada will annex the American pigs.

yes, your mounties will crush our tanks and armies :p
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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:01 pm

NewIndependentcanada wrote:Your all fools the glorious nation of Canada will annex the American pigs.


And then the Native Americans will rise up against and release their flying pig gods on the world!
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:01 pm

Over my dead body.

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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:05 pm

Stalinleninmao wrote:the united states of america is declining thanks to capitalism and hes corrup form of goverment...we shoul all be socialist or communist.and
now russia for 2012 wants to change to an conservative socialism and note the rise of china too.... capitalism sucks....what you think????

I cannot tell you what I think because I'll get banned.

The recession in the US, was not caused by capitalism. It was caused by horrible social policy, which morphed into economic policy. Capitalism, is far more efficient, and productive than socialism or communism. China's rise, is entirely due to the Chinese government gradually adopting a more free market capitalist approach. Capitalism is responsible for lifting billions of people out of poverty in it's history, and tens of millions just in China, every year. Capitalism, is the reason that first world nations have a much higher standard of living than socialist nations.
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Postby Catastrophe within » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:05 pm

Novaya Tselinoyarsk wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I don't think I understand the question.


"I believe Stalin was great, never killed anybody, and brought equality to all within the U.S.S.R. America is falling apart due to Capitalism because I like to think I understand Marxist thought that Lenin and Stalin so "followed", but I really don't. You should agree with me, or I will deny your existence and label you some form of capitalist<animal>. What do you think?


Stalin was great? and never killed anybody? are you serious?

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