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Which is better?

Canada
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America
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Both
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8%
Neither
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:35 pm

Who do you think is better on lifestyle, healthcare, education, environment, politics, wealth, etc?
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Postby Hassett » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:41 pm

America Fuck Yeah!
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Postby Greater Cabinda » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:41 pm

Hassett wrote:America Fuck Yeah!

Some variation on the above. If for no reason other than nationalism.
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:43 pm

Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords
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Postby South Norwega » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:45 pm

I thought Canada was part of America...
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Postby GreaterPacificNations » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:46 pm

Mongolian Khanate wrote:Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords

Your flag is confusing. I keep thinking you're Trotskylvania. I was like : "Is Trotskylvania Canadian...?"

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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm

GreaterPacificNations wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords

Your flag is confusing. I keep thinking you're Trotskylvania. I was like : "Is Trotskylvania Canadian...?"


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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Canada.
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Postby Aeronos » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:49 pm

Depends on what parts. I mean, I'd choose almost anywhere in the US over Alberta, Sasketchewan, Northern Territories, Yukon, Newfoundland or Nunavut. But I'd sooner take Toronto or Montreal over most of America.

Presently:
Lifestyle: Canada. America's government is too encroaching of social freedoms.
Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<
Education: Standard, Canada. Higher, America.
Environment: Canada. But who gives a shit? I'd sooner a city than the rurals.
Politics: Canada, although Harper's making damn sure that changes fast.
Wealth: America. That's almost no competition.

America, sort your act together. A libertarian shouldn't be choosing Canada over America on most of these things! :(
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Postby 1000 Cats » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:49 pm

Having spent an extended time in both, Canada is far superior in my opinion. Nicer people, less in-your-face religion and politics, arguably more civil rights. Also, the healthcare system really is just about perfect in comparison, and the education system is underestimated sorely (although I hear that both its and the US's are plummeting as of late).

Also, Canadian politics are a lot more fun. American politics are like watching the special olympics. With only two competitors.
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Postby Avenio » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:50 pm

The Canadian ubermensch will soon sweep out of the North and devour the world in a thousand-year reign of darkness, as decreed by Dear Leader Harper from his fortress at Barad-dûr, also known as Calgary. So Canada, obviously.

Aeronos wrote:Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<


Ehh, it's not really that simple. From what I'm aware of, views on privatization varies based upon province; here in BC, for example, it's allowed and is fairly common.
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:50 pm

Aeronos wrote:Depends on what parts. I mean, I'd choose almost anywhere in the US over Alberta, Sasketchewan, Northern Territories, Yukon, Newfoundland or Nunavut. But I'd sooner take Toronto or Montreal over most of America.

Presently:
Lifestyle: Canada. America's government is too encroaching of social freedoms.
Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<
Education: Standard, Canada. Higher, America.
Environment: Canada. But who gives a shit? I'd sooner a city than the rurals.
Politics: Canada, although Harper's making damn sure that changes fast.
Wealth: America. That's almost no competition.

America, sort your act together. A libertarian shouldn't be choosing Canada over America on most of these things! :(


Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.
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Postby GreaterPacificNations » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:53 pm

Mongolian Khanate wrote:
He's my twin.

He's the annoying left wing one, I'm the annoying right wing one.

lol

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Postby Aeronos » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:53 pm

Mongolian Khanate wrote:Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.

Je ne parle pas français :\
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Postby Olthar » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:55 pm

I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Aeronos wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.

Je ne parle pas français :\


Who cares? You can get around pretty much everywhere in montreal only with your english.

The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Olthar wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

I am disappoint.

That would be America.
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Postby NewIndependentcanada » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!
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Postby Aeronos » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:58 pm

Mongolian Khanate wrote:The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily

Being British myself... v_v

Also "grey area"?! Do you mean that as in "Thriving black market"? ;)
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Postby Olthar » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:59 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Olthar wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

I am disappoint.

That would be America.

Eh, don't rule out Canada entirely. It's got a size advantage. It is the second biggest country out there.
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Postby Avenio » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:00 pm

NewIndependentcanada wrote:Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!


Indeed. Once the Dark One has gathered his strength from the icy wastes and assembled his army of Albertans fell beasts and dark creatures, our glory will blot out the sun and drown the world in our might for a thousand thousand years.
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Postby Mongolian Khanate » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:02 pm

Aeronos wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily

Being British myself... v_v

Also "grey area"?! Do you mean that as in "Thriving black market"? ;)


No no, a black market would mean it is against the law.

A grey market means no one knows what the fuck to do with it, because it is a relatively recent phenomenon and does not violate current healthcare law. So technically, it is not against the law.
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Postby The Left-Libertarian Hippies » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 pm

Canadian politics always seems to me as open to new things, and not just bland liberal and bland conservative. Also, I've always wanted to go to Vancouver...
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Postby New Manvir » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 pm

Canada because I'm from there, and we have social services that aren't utter shit.
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Postby NewIndependentcanada » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:04 pm

Avenio wrote:
NewIndependentcanada wrote:Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!


Indeed. Once the Dark One has gathered his strength from the icy wastes and assembled his army of Albertans fell beasts and dark creatures, our glory will blot out the sun and drown the world in our might for a thousand thousand years.


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